jeff f
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plus they have big poop that never stops stinkin..penguins are cute and all, but they are out there tearing up my garden.
plus they have big poop that never stops stinkin..penguins are cute and all, but they are out there tearing up my garden.
other than a kazzillion dollars, you are right. its all about money and how they can steal it the easiest.Of course there is a lot of nonsense and hype but NASA has nothing to gain in this theatre. .
great idea. only problem is the politicians wont go for it because it delays how long they have to wait before stealing your money and creating a world govt.Let's just all calm down and admit that weather isn't a science, no matter how many graphs are posted and how many hockey sticks are "invented".
We need to take a step back and reexamine all the data and decide which is political and which is verifiable.
Then proceed in a normal fashion, without all the hysteria.
'He' is showing RECORDS. You do understand that so many records all happening only a decade ago is somewhat relative to now...Why is he showing records set from 10 years ago? That isn't what is happening now.
Now we set records for cold.
Why is he showing records set from 10 years ago? That isn't what is happening now.
Now we set records for cold.
I know that you think you are right as do I, but the facts are facts, how you wish to interpret them are your look out. Just remember there are many more countries in the world suffering the effects of heat not cold. Go ask an Australian or a Spaniard etc etc. Ask the Maldivians ask the Bangladeshi's etc etc. Agreing to disagree is the adult way, derrogatory comments are somewhat childish Jeff.because he is still in denial. his pride is too big and he cannot yet admit that he was duped. its common with all hoaxes. but as the years continue to prove him wrong he will eventually either admit it or put on a tinfoil hat. sad but true...
records? okay i will bite. tell me how your "scientific records" have accurate data for 1860 temps? we had barely even expanded into western US. but you expect us to believe that you KNOW what the temps were around the world? most south american countries didnt even have shoes in 1900 but hey, you know how hot it was there? come on get real dude.'He' is showing RECORDS. You do understand that so many records all happening only a decade ago is somewhat relative to now...
no, whats childish is when you know your on a sinking ship and yell to all the passengers, "tell the band to keep playing, this ship cant sink". its also foolish.derrogatory comments are somewhat childish Jeff.
duh, its cuz of warming....funny, they still won't address the record snowfall. =-/
So you also speak of 'they' faded! Politics.
Getting accurate information about past climates is a basic thing done using Tree rings and ice core extraction. I addressed the snowfall in a past post I beleve.
dendroclimatology...
You post too much for me to find it but will persevere if you rebut my next comment. Cj you stated that global warming causes the cold weather, and you have agreed quite openly that global warming is happening, have you not?Well the tree rings have fallen into disripute since a reexamination of the methodology revealed that only certain rings were compiled, and the sample data was not sufficient to draw anything conclusive.
Further tree ring samplings revealed no serious warming at all.
Like I said, we need to reset and recalibrate everything to an agreed upon methodology in an OPEN scientific forum. So far, it has been anything but that ... it's all been driven by politics, and we all know where that ends up. In a very expensive garbage can 30 years later.
you agree that there was a past ice age?tree rings and ice cores....OMG.
okay, i will play again.
please tell the bumbling stupid masses what instruments you used to "calibrate" your accuracy level of a tree ring. i cant wait to hear this...
you guys just keep digging your hole deeper and deeper.
wait, i just got a brilliant idea. we should ask the lock ness monster. he is supposed to be really old plus he always asks chef's parents for tree-fitty but the mom only gave him a dolla...
I meant that as a joke! The Earth is cyclical and our impact is minimal. At this juncture we may be pushing/pulling in the wrong direction. We don't know near enough about the Earth's weather cycles to go around trying to manipulate levers of change. It's irresponsible.You post too much for me to find it but will persevere if you rebut my next comment. Cj you stated that global warming causes the cold weather, and you have agreed quite openly that global warming is happening, have you not?
Can't you just tell he's thoroughly informed??you agree that there was a past ice age?