Lets have a filthyfletch hates CFLs forum

Filthy fletch really hates cfls, but should he have a forum dedicated to his hatred?

  • yes, cfl's are a shitty waste of time, only poor people need them

    Votes: 18 31.0%
  • no, cfls do have their use,

    Votes: 40 69.0%

  • Total voters
    58

valuablevariable

Well-Known Member
Then he can post all his anger towards them in there and we dont have to read about his daily bitching.
Itll include such information as:
Fletchs weekly top 10 reasons why HPS is better than CFLSs
Unknown facts about why CFLs are lame
Daily heat measurements to prove they are way too hot
and also provocative pictures of him and his HPS
 

iblazethatkush

Well-Known Member
Haha I like that idea. I've never commented on this issue, but I don't think we need a CFL forum. We got enough as it is. Nothing against CFL users, I just think this site is starting to get forum-happy.
 

wafflehouselover

Well-Known Member
How about how a CFL is a bad idea forum. We are trying to promote better growing on these forum, honest i think 4ft flouro is better then cfl and if your trying to save money by going that way 4ft flouro will give you a way better coverage area.

You talk about unknown facts but the known facts are that their Flourescents, would u have a dot of flouro or a 4ft flouro for lighting.
 

valuablevariable

Well-Known Member
Lol, who cares, let the people do what they want. What i would change on this forum is a way to filter out all the grow journals. Make an option of finding threads by type of light or strain for example.
On another site they had the journals in different categories and that was great. There was even a page listing all the journals with the information of how many grams were harvested and the grams per watt ratio. Awesome
 

LoganSmith

Well-Known Member
Hey Wafflehouselover,

I have a question for you, if you use a four foot fluorescent bulb and it states that it has an output of 3000 lumens does this mean that you would have to divide the four feet by the 3000 lumens? and if so wouldn't a cfl give you a better lumen to persqf ratio.

Let me know
 

nongreenthumb

Well-Known Member
Lol, who cares, let the people do what they want. What i would change on this forum is a way to filter out all the grow journals. Make an option of finding threads by type of light or strain for example.
On another site they had the journals in different categories and that was great. There was even a page listing all the journals with the information of how many grams were harvested and the grams per watt ratio. Awesome
Isn't it down to the journal creator as to how thorough they are, also rollitup added the tag facility, so if you do a search and use the tag option, it uses the keywords.
 

valuablevariable

Well-Known Member
Isn't it down to the journal creator as to how thorough they are, also rollitup added the tag facility, so if you do a search and use the tag option, it uses the keywords.
You can do that but its not a very good overview. I just tried "cfl grow" and got 1 thread. Might be doing it wrong if you should only be typing one word.
 

wafflehouselover

Well-Known Member
just so you know its not the amount of lumens that makes the plant grow its the spectrum. t5 puts out the most useful light/lumen that a plant uses. That means that if you get a 4ft flouro that puts out y amount of spectrum that is useful for the plant then that means you can place like 5 plants in a line under a flouro as oppose to 5 cfl with x amount of lumens around the plants and only y amount of spectrum.
 

wafflehouselover

Well-Known Member
lumens measurement of the bulb is just a marketing strategy, it's been said all over the place even in the catalogs of the hydro company(pick up a nationalgardenwholesale catalog if you can) that its the spectrum that is "USEFUL" for the plants. It's just how the hype out there is saying more light is better.
 

LoganSmith

Well-Known Member
Can you be more specific. I know that the spectrum makes a difference ie 2700k redish spectrum, good for flowering, and 4100K, 5000K, 6500K. Blueish good for veg. but this doesn't answer the question. They have cfl bulbs that produce those same spectrums K value. So I guess I tring to find out if you would still need to divide the length by the lumens/k value/wattage. to get a persqf ratio.

If I have a cfl that uses 26w and has an output of 1700 lumes and is 6500k spec. vs. a four foot fluorescent that uses 40w has an output of 3000 lumens and is 6500k spec.

differences: 1) 26w vs. 40w
2) 1700 lumens vs. 3000 lumens
 

wafflehouselover

Well-Known Member
Can you be more specific. I know that the spectrum makes a difference ie 2700k redish spectrum, good for flowering, and 4100K, 5000K, 6500K. Blueish good for veg. but this doesn't answer the question. They have cfl bulbs that produce those same spectrums K value. So I guess I tring to find out if you would still need to divide the length by the lumens/k value/wattage. to get a persqf ratio.

If I have a cfl that uses 26w and has an output of 1700 lumes and is 6500k spec. vs. a four foot fluorescent that uses 40w has an output of 3000 lumens and is 6500k spec.

differences: 1) 26w vs. 40w
2) 1700 lumens vs. 3000 lumens
That i don't know, i just know that if i place 80 cuttings under a shoplight(2 4ft flouro) they will grow evenly when rooted then i transplant.
 
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