What.....The...Fuck. he's only helping the wounded, shoot him

[tip top toker]

as i stated previously, i can't sit here and defend the UK so i wont, but this is a story that just popped up onto the bbc so i reacted to it..

and way to apreciate the proble,. burgalrs in the USA have guns, correct, and you know why, self explanatory, you all love em too much to ban them to hell if bad guys get them as well. if a burgalr comes in to my house, i don't care if he's there to steal stuff, i'll whack him on the head and let him rot for a while. killing someone is not NATURAL instinct when you see someone in your house... unless we are VERY different species, cus to me killing someone is a last resort or unless they truly deserve it, i.e they jsut raped and strangled a 14 year old girl they met over facebook.

and so they didn't sign the treaty, so it's not a war crime, my bad, doesn't make it any morally wrong. the guy is crawling along the ground dying and the gunner is saying come on baby, jsut pick up that 'weapon'.... this is not just an attack that killied innocents. not to mention the US defended the act fully and stated that they were in a combat situation with hostiles.

heck, if you were an iraqi in america (you two countries are at war, so it's fair play to anything they do in the US (or UK!) meaning if i were an iraqi and saw a US civillian with a gun, hell, could be military, best bet is to shoot him, and anyone that tries to help. just imagine if the iraqis somehow managed to bring war to us, propperly, not just silly bombings. i mean picture the hotel shootings in dubai but on mass scale throughout new york. not so "that's just war, we'll jstu have to get over it" it would be a whole different hostile act to anyone attacking their towns.

and i can't defend millitants who shield themselves ebhind civvies, but in this cituation, they weren't, it all jsut seemed to be day to day life milling around. not people hunched up behind cover trying to take shots.. most they had was a guy or two holding a gun and someone looking around a corner. not 7 AK47 rifles and an RPG, that was all nothing but bad guesswork

and if this "just happens" why did they flat refuse to release it evemn after a freedom of information act request?

 

[cymbaline]

When insurgents refuse to take the field of battle...but instead hide behind women and children (knowingly making them targets as well...nice)....there is always going to be collateral damage.

If the insurgents would "man up"...this wouldn't happen.

PS.... know your history folks.... the Geneva Convention only applies to nations which SIGNED it. Iraq never did..

I do know my history but you obviously don't...

The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not bound by it. By 1949, the treaty was becoming viewed less as a reciprocal contract and more as an agreement on fundamental human rights. Ratifying the treaty binds the nation to uphold these rights regardless of the behavior of the opposing nation.[7]

heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions



I think you need to go back and brush up on yours though.
Regardless if Iraq never signed it or not, the USA did and is bound to follow it unless of course they arbitrarily enforce what they wish when they wish and if it only suits their agenda like now.

I bet the british felt the same exact way during the revolutionary war when the minutemen refused to enter the field of battle on the british terms and engaged in hit and run skirmishes.

 

[JoeCa1i]

yeh,and the iraq war was based on lies.Wheres the WMD's?Over 1,000,000 killed, I've read.There also in afghanistan,fighting the drug war,maybe they should be on our boarders.http://www.examiner.com/a-2562743~AP_Analysis__Karzai_remarks_risk_US_Afghan_rift.html?cid=rss-World&flv=1 Wake up guys,these wars are based on bullshit.

 

[akgrown]

I just wish they would have saved all those 30cal cannon rounds and just vaporized those dune coons with the 2.75inch zuni rockets. One would have left quite the impression. Dont Fuck With The USA or we will Fuck With You. Tip Top quit defending terrorism im going to post links to a couple other awesome videos that I love.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/73369/iraq_airstrike/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXy2mJkiCL8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SoDf4FBVX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnLorfxv3k&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAjM_2uDrS0&feature=related
this one is funny

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Iz5MwPsfyo&feature=related

 

[SocataSmoker]

killing someone is not NATURAL instinct when you see someone in your house... unless we are VERY different species

Well of course it isn't for you, you've let this world of compassion take you over...

To me, this world is kill or be killed, if someone comes to my "land" and attacks me, I will defend my land and attack them.

The reason we're in Iraq is not because of WMDs... it's because it was and still is a haven for extreme terrorists, as proven by thousands of videos and news blips.

Sorry we're not pussies like the UK and ban guns out right, leaving our citizens HELPLESS to criminals because criminals give two shits about gun laws... oh wait, we'll arm our citizens with mace and baseball bats, that'll do well in a gun fight!

People need to get out of the "people" mindset and start thinking themselves what they really are, animals... all everyone wants these days is "security" and it's BS... the world is not secure, it's not meant to be, it's meant to be dangerous, it's meant that a lot of people should be dead because they are weak... etc...

Our human evolution has ceased because we no longer better ourselves physically or mentally, we're happy with the "norm".

To that I say fuck that, give me dirt, give me no morals, give me life or death in the blink of an eye... that is what being a human is about, if you are strong and survive, treat yourself to things around you!

Man I was born in the wrong era...

I just wish they would have saved all those 30cal cannon rounds and just vaporized those dune coons with the 2.75inch zuni rockets. One would have left quite the impression. Dont Fuck With The USA or we will Fuck With You.

Oooorah!

I need to get back to Alaska... for there I can truly be a real human... this city crap is BS.

 

[Benassi]

That entire shit hole excuse for a country should be 30mm'd. What other place fucking STONED to death a lady for having premarital sex? Sorry but fuck em. Actually no, not sorry. Just fuck em. They got their heads so far up their problem filled asses with that back-asswards pile of shit they call a "religion".

At the same time I never like leaving anyone out of my hate path so... fuck America for being such a sketchy-governed pile of dishonest anus.

 

[tip top toker]

umm, jsut for your info, there is a stuopidly low amount of for real criminals toting and using guns in proportion to the US

if someone kicked my door in now and they weren't the police, i would bet there would be about a 1% probability that they were carring a gun and if they were, willing to use it. burglars here just use knives and big sticks, because they know they won't face anything worse themselves, and in the same manner the hosue owner doesn't think hey i need a gun because that guy only has a bat. i freaking love americans inability to realise it's a vicious cycle. the criminal will always try and arm himself bigger than you or the police if they can..

 

[c0lchester]

hundred yards from that helli and my .30-06 and there would be less murderers in the world

 

[Benassi]

umm, jsut for your info, there is a stuopidly low amount of for real criminals toting and using guns in proportion to the US

if someone kicked my door in now and they weren't the police, i would bet there would be about a 1% probability that they were carring a gun and if they were, willing to use it. burglars here just use knives and big sticks, because they know they won't face anything worse themselves, and in the same manner the hosue owner doesn't think hey i need a gun because that guy only has a bat. i freaking love americans inability to realise it's a vicious cycle. the criminal will always try and arm himself bigger than you or the police if they can..

I'm not concerned who has a gun or what's fair if someone breaks in. I'm more concerned with how fast I can accurately put two in a chest of someone who breaks in. Then because america is so awesome, I'll soon be in jail for defending my home. =]

There's no such thing as self defense in California.

 

[Big P]

umm, jsut for your info, there is a stuopidly low amount of for real criminals toting and using guns in proportion to the US

if someone kicked my door in now and they weren't the police, i would bet there would be about a 1% probability that they were carring a gun and if they were, willing to use it. burglars here just use knives and big sticks, because they know they won't face anything worse themselves, and in the same manner the hosue owner doesn't think hey i need a gun because that guy only has a bat. i freaking love americans inability to realise it's a vicious cycle. the criminal will always try and arm himself bigger than you or the police if they can..

they cant arm themselves bigger if you got a gun


but they can arm themselves bigger if no one has a gun



a few months ago I had some fuck put my my friend at gun point and force him into my house when my children were home.

hes lucky i wasnt home


lucky my niebor saw the whole thing and choppers were flying over within 5 min


just gotta say there may be places you dont need guns, but they are the exception


usually you need them



in pakistan you cant walk down the street using a cell phone without armed body gaurds

and i do bet that any criminal that doesnt get a gun in the UK is not a real criminal


or he is a dumb / non proficiant criminal




I can see your point tho tip top


it would be hard not hating america if i was wounded in that shit


but i would also realize that i prolly should stay indoors during a war in the middle of a heated battle right?


like if i leave my wallet at walmart i expect it to be stolen


just like if you are running around with armed men in the middle of a war zone you should expect to be gutted

 

[Benassi]

I can see your point tho tip top


it would be hard not hating america if i was wounded in that shit


but i would also realize that i prolly should stay indoors during a war in the middle of a heated battle right?


like if i leave my wallet at walmart i expect it to be stolen


just like if you are running around with armed men in the middle of a war zone you should expect to be gutted

Of all the things you type that I can't make sense of... that right there has been the most sense I've been able to establish out of you.

Quoted for truth.

If you're in a ongoing war, GET OFF THE STREETS.

Well said!

 

[Miss MeanWeed]

To the pilots I say one thing...GET SOME

Were not killing muslims we are killing terrorists and collateral damage is part of war. .

Wahahahahahahahahahaaa... you are actually serious! Good on ya! Remember terrorists are everywhere! You should patrol your neighbourhood at night and look for suspicious activity, report it to Homeland Security, and then go back to looking for more suspicious activity. You could be the brains behind Operation Silent Vigilante! Remember, they are either with you or against you! And don't use your brain, that's borderline dangerously terroristic!

 

[CrackerJax]

I do know my history but you obviously don't...

The Conventions apply to a signatory nation even if the opposing nation is not bound by it. By 1949, the treaty was becoming viewed less as a reciprocal contract and more as an agreement on fundamental human rights. Ratifying the treaty binds the nation to uphold these rights regardless of the behavior of the opposing nation.[7]

heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Conventions



I think you need to go back and brush up on yours though.
Regardless if Iraq never signed it or not, the USA did and is bound to follow it unless of course they arbitrarily enforce what they wish when they wish and if it only suits their agenda like now.

I bet the british felt the same exact way during the revolutionary war when the minutemen refused to enter the field of battle on the british terms and engaged in hit and run skirmishes.

I'm well aware of the intent of the convention, which is EXACTLY what I stated. I am also aware that is hes been SUBVERTED by the left over the years to make it useless.

Wiki source.... very funny.

 

[Big P]

Of all the things you type that I can't make sense of... that right there has been the most sense I've been able to establish out of you.

Quoted for truth.

If you're in a ongoing war, GET OFF THE STREETS.

Well said!

thanks man, i think



i wanted to also add this tid bit but didnt want to beat a dead horse



were those guys being responsible parents running around in the middle of a war zone like that?


i know they were just trying to provide for thier families tho



lets smoke to being alive i think

 

[ukgrower2110]

its very simple with you americans, you want to kill terrorists to stop them hating you and trying to kill you, everytime u shoot 1 of them some other guy will replace him, then 2 guys to him and so on and so forth. cant you see that to obtain peace through war makes no sense at all, it just means some unlucky people get killed and called "collateral damage".

 

[CrackerJax]

Yah....that's the way it works....

Tell that to the ppl on the Moscow subways.... or in london...or in Indonesia.... etc etc....

Yah.... it's us.

 

[......]

its very simple with you americans, you want to kill terrorists to stop them hating you and trying to kill you, everytime u shoot 1 of them some other guy will replace him, then 2 guys to him and so on and so forth. cant you see that to obtain peace through war makes no sense at all, it just means some unlucky people get killed and called "collateral damage".

god people are fucking stupid

 

[Big P]

its very simple with you americans, you want to kill terrorists to stop them hating you and trying to kill you, everytime u shoot 1 of them some other guy will replace him, then 2 guys to him and so on and so forth. cant you see that to obtain peace through war makes no sense at all, it just means some unlucky people get killed and called "collateral damage".

this is just more anti american propeganda you have been fed


bill clinton didnt do shit to the terroists so they figured hey seems we are not getting thier attention


bam sucker punch 9/11


im an arab i was born in (left blank to protect the innocent)
you think american uk people are misinformed which both are

you would be amazed the lies fed to the uneducated in the middle east

i work with iraqis everyday infact i just finished a visit with one, he tells me things were horrible before now people are working making money living with pride and dignety

thats straight from the horses mouth my friends

arab to arab

fact is even if 1 million were killed in the war all in all its going to be a net plus for the iraqi nation


soon it may be iraq bailing us out of our current follies

 

[Xrtnfx]

man, that video made me smile

I love seeing those towel head bastards suffer after what they tryed to do to my country.

 

[ukgrower2110]

ure not gettin peace through war, its not happenin, never has never will.