Israeli Occupation my ass!!!!

[jeffchr]

true, true true. anyone who doesn't agree with Rick is a liberal, uneducated, uninformed, peon who is only capable of regurgitating some liberal party line, whatever that is. it's very simple really, either you agree with rick, or you're an idiot. that must make rick the smartest person in the whole wide world.

 

[RickWhite]

This is like arguing with children. None of you have the first fucking clue what you are talking about.

Yep, this is exactly like arguing with children; no different at all.

 

[jeffchr]

who's arguing, Rick ? not me. just expressing my views here at good old RIU.

 

[Dragline]

Rick oversimplifies because he sees everything through partisan/religious lines.

Rick believe that there are no extremists in HIS religion, ONLY in others. He's stated as such in the past....trying to debate w/ Rick is pointless, it's always the same canned Christian Right Wing bullshit that is nonsensical to anyone w/ an objective bone in their body.

Thats why I don't even bother anymore.

 

[abe23]

This is like arguing with children. None of you have the first fucking clue what you are talking about.

Yep, this is exactly like arguing with children; no different at all.

No, only you know anything about anything. Question: why do you keep starting these kind of threads if you know exactly what the outcome will be...?

 

[Leothwyn]

This is like arguing with children. None of you have the first fucking clue what you are talking about.

Yep, this is exactly like arguing with children; no different at all.

You're the one who always over simplifies everything so much that even a child would point out obvious problems with your points.

And you (once again) make a point based on the idea that israel is totally innocent and can do no wrong, and act all surprised when people point out problems with israeli policy. Even a child could have foreseen that.

 

[DocDoom85]

The holocaust was very Wrong,But I believe that isreal use's the guilt of the Holocaust Now to do whatever they want.They have there Mossad agents killing everone........No other country gets away with shit isreal does

 

[jeffchr]

yea, rick is the really smartest guy in the whole wide world. rick is soooooooooooooo smart, and everyone else is soooooooooooo dumb. (I only speak in these terms so rick can relate - it's not fair to exlcude rick from the conversation. not fair to RIU, cause rick is soooooooooooooo smart.)

 

[jeffchr]

when you need them, rickkkkkkkkkkkkkk.

 

[tinyTURTLE]

ok. see that rick? we all give up. you can stop now.

 

[redivider]

This is like arguing with children. None of you have the first fucking clue what you are talking about.

Yep, this is exactly like arguing with children; no different at all.

Israel intercepted a humanitarian flotilla going to Gaza, Killing 10 INNOCENT PEOPLE.


still think israeli aggression is a myth??

 

[abe23]

Nobody except rick thinks it's a myth....although there are a couple of you who are brainwashed enough to delude yourself into thinking this sort of thing is somehow comparable to the shoah.

Here are some facts:

[video=youtube;pmhgPUXnzBU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmhgPUXnzBU[/video]

Gaza is blocked off from the rest of the world because it's controlled by a bunch of thugs whose stated goal it is to destroy the state of israel and kill israelis. In the video you can see the israeli naval commandos being attacked by the people on board who try to take their weapons before they start opening fire.

I'm not defending anyone here...it seems most of the people involved here are assholes and the israeli military should definitely receive most of the blame for totally botching their operation. But when you say 'humanitarian fleet' and 'innocent people' it might be useful to add some context.

By the way....your own government kills 'innocent people' every day with predator drones and air strikes. Just saying...

 

[tinyTURTLE]

Nobody except rick thinks it's a myth....although there are a couple of you who are brainwashed enough to delude yourself into thinking this sort of thing is somehow comparable to the shoah.

Here are some facts:

[video=youtube;pmhgPUXnzBU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmhgPUXnzBU[/video]

Gaza is blocked off from the rest of the world because it's controlled by a bunch of thugs whose stated goal it is to destroy the state of israel and kill israelis. In the video you can see the israeli naval commandos being attacked by the people on board who try to take their weapons before they start opening fire.

I'm not defending anyone here...it seems most of the people involved here are assholes and the israeli military should definitely receive most of the blame for totally botching their operation. But when you say 'humanitarian fleet' and 'innocent people' it might be useful to add some context.

By the way....your own government kills 'innocent people' every day with predator drones and air strikes. Just saying...

those people weren't attacking, they were defending themselves from illigal boarders in international waters.

 

[abe23]

Ok, so say I'm in international waters off long island hauling some unknown cargo. My ship gets boarded by navy seals and I attack them with slingshots, clubs and knives. Would that be self-defense?

 

[tinyTURTLE]

Ok, so say I'm in international waters off long island hauling some unknown cargo. My ship gets boarded by navy seals and I attack them with slingshots, clubs and knives. Would that be self-defense?

yes. of course it would be. defending yourself is self sefense, unless i am unclear about something.

 

[ginjawarrior]

Ok, so say I'm in international waters off long island hauling some unknown cargo. My ship gets boarded by navy seals and I attack them with slingshots, clubs and knives. Would that be self-defense?

yes it is self defense, isreal really got it wrong this time.

 

[robert 14617]

don't mess with the zohan

 

[abe23]

How about what the navy is doing off the horn of africa? Say some somali pirates get boarded and shoot at our dudes? Is it self-defense?

Again, I think the israeli military deserves the lion's share of the blame for this. But I don't have a problem with them boarding the ships, it's the fact the whole thing was botched so badly that bothers me. You would think they would have a better attack plan than 'let's lower these guys onto the deck from the helicopters and see what happens'....

 

[ginjawarrior]

i doubt very much that when somali pirates get boarded its at unnounced at nighttime with commandos dropping in from helicopters throwing stun grenades and tear gas. it is a proper fuck up by the israeli military

 

[tinyTURTLE]

How about what the navy is doing off the horn of africa? Say some somali pirates get boarded and shoot at our dudes? Is it self-defense?

Again, I think the israeli military deserves the lion's share of the blame for this. But I don't have a problem with them boarding the ships, it's the fact the whole thing was botched so badly that bothers me. You would think they would have a better attack plan than 'let's lower these guys onto the deck from the helicopters and see what happens'....

of course it's self defense. you confused about this simple two word term?
if you ask me our navy is acting with resraint against known pirates.
those idiots who fired on one of our GUIDED MISSILE cruisers didn't get sunk.
they're in NYC awaiting trial, probably eating better than they ever had and sleeping on sheets for the first time ever.