My Growitup Greenhouse Grow 2010

IAm5toned

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so cruz, things are looking awesome, as expected, but what are your plans for next round?
going to continue strain shopping, so to speak? or are you going to try and maximize one strain and run with it for a bit?
not trying to be nosy, i just find myself thinking, 'what would i do if i had such a pimpin greenhouse in my backyard?' everytime i perv your thread, lol!
so curiosity finally killed the cat and i had to ask.
 

Dr. Greenhorn

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OK, we are going into week 7 of veg. Temps come up to high 80's this week but now have cooled down some.
I should be ok.

I am now watering about a gallon in the morning and 1/2 gallon at night. I started feeding once a week but thats up to three times a week at 800 PPM. I adjust the ph to 6.5 with the nutes but in between feedings the ph has been around 7.0

The girls in the back are larger and using more water then the smaller girls. The santa cruz og kush now has more room and has started to fill out. Casey jones is doing great too. Bubba Kush has slowed down some. maybe its the spot. The two blue dreams are perfect in size, My blue berry is getting pretty tall even having being topped before. The monster in the back that is growing just like a christmas tree is the blue Cheese.

Heres a vid:
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fuckin awesome cruzer!! I'm so envious of you. they look really good.
 

cruzer101

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this is one badass grow, but im wondering what he can do after he gets it dialed in, one can only imagine!
glad too see things worked out so nicely cruz!

Thanks man, Getting all this imput from you guys really helps me dial this in. Your choice, the Santa cruz OG looks like it will be the perfect size plant for in here. Shes not as tall as the others but bushy without topping. Once I see her finish I will know for sure. Heres a pic I took today for ya.





Girls are lookin' mighty fine my friend.
Thanks man.

Dubs nice avatar bro + rep. Where the hell did you get that?
reminds me of gorillaz



The greenhouse is rocking cruzer

"I feel summer creeping in..."
Dam, I just got that song out of my head... now its back. LOL No biggie.
Thanks man.

You da man cruzer, ladies looking good as always. Can't believe the roots are already growing out the bottom of those smart pots.
Yea, I think it has to do with the way I am watering this round but before the grow when I was looking at pots I read nurserys use these to grow 6 foot tall plants in the ground, when they take the pots out of the ground to sell the plant I think it was like 85% of the rootball stayed in the smart pot giving the plant a much better shot at the transplant. But that means 15% loss so I figured some will get down there but the majority of the drain of nutrients from the soil will be the soil in the smartpots. I would rather replace the soil in the smart pots then to pull out all the bricks and turn over the soil. Kinda a raised bed deal.

so cruz, things are looking awesome, as expected, but what are your plans for next round?
going to continue strain shopping, so to speak? or are you going to try and maximize one strain and run with it for a bit?
not trying to be nosy, i just find myself thinking, 'what would i do if i had such a pimpin greenhouse in my backyard?' everytime i perv your thread, lol!
so curiosity finally killed the cat and i had to ask.
Im glad you did. I have been thinking about it and would like some input.

I figure mid August I start 12 clones in my cab and start vegging for winter harvest in soil, Those go in when I harvest these girls. I start flowering those in the green house I start 12 more in the cab for spring harvest. Once they are out of the cab I switch back to hydro and I think I can get two grows in before I need the veg space for the next round in the green house.

What Im not sure about is if I can go from clone to a nice bushy plant ready to flower in two months in soil grow. I want to top twice or try uncle bens method to keep them manageable in the cab (about 20 inches tall and 15 wide in a one gallon smart pot) and maximize the flowering potential. I think its doable.

fuckin awesome cruzer!! I'm so envious of you. they look really good.
Hell ya bro, I look Casey right in the eyes now, well if she had eyes.




Its time to start with the first line of defence. I went and got two no pest strips and shot the bottoms of the girls with Organiside. Then sprayed insectiside around the outside of the green house. I walked out there the next day and found about 12 dead bugs on the bricks. They looked like roaches to me. My bud said they could be Japanese beetles but they look one color to me. More like an American Cock roach. I read those dont eat plants though... weird.

Anyway, I top fed them with a pitcher, 2 gallons each 800 ppms ph 6.5
the soil sank in some so I am going to top off the containers with more and put a layer of washed sand on the top. That should help compact the soil some.

Now I got three plants on the back wall.
The big girl, Blue Cheese:​




The Blueberry:




And Boomers Blue Dream I damaged but is coming along.




Does Blue dream, the one in the pot had the most spidermites so I took her outside a couple days ago and hit her twice with organiside real good. Shes ready to go back now.




First one on the left is Casey Jones.




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BooMeR242

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why would u hurt my lady? baha im sure she will recover just fine. shit is lookin great tho man. cant wait to see them in flower
 

psari

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Even there, roaches come in different flavors. They are rather diverse of course. You want to keep in mind that there are varieties that will eat plant materials in loose soil and lay eggs there, etc. Most commonly they can be found in leaf piles and other compost like beddings. They look similar to what some people call waterbugs (common named due to their presence becoming a nuisance after rainy periods or high ground water saturations), but can be a real problem. For that matter they are really closely related, hence the similarity. Both live in similar conditions. One is more destructive than the other. Smaller than the more common roach of course. Roaches as a whole are part of an ecosystem and come with the planet. You've moved those planters around enough so I dont have to mention the idea that is where you are likely to find pest problems; underneath the planters. When you swap stuff out/switch out, definitely treat liberally that substrate/sand to help reduce any incursion of course. One of the reasons you see other greenhouses using raised platforms and the like is to help not only with working on the plants but to control problems like these. Personally I dont think you need to go that far, but you want to hedge your bets none the less. Besides you are already seeing those pots do their thing with the roots. No sense going for 100% isolation unless it is a closed ecosystem setup.

Not trying for doom and gloom, just something to keep in mind when you are running raised beds and planters. Sounds like you are well on top of it, but I had to chime in one the weirdness factor of "roaches" that I found shocking a while back. The idea of going 100% organic, no kill off of anything has its drawbacks. In my case it was being swarmed by the little buggers who were eating a compost pile. And then noticing they were literally "everywhere." On me, in my plant beds, etc. After the horror factor, I got to see there was damage directly from them. Researched it etc. Not that common an issue, but I have a weird respect now for their place in the world.

Speaking of pests, I hope you have those mites well under control. Crossing my fingers for ya. Wish you had a setup to isolate that one lady a little longer to be sure. Classic greenhouse headache. "Crap, now I need another one!" Never enough space.

One other side thought just on future strain selection I guess. If you come up with a winner or winners, I hope you can do a clone farm to help control the traits. Anymore the amount of pheno drift from seed batches and the like makes it really hard to be sure you are going to get the same results. That and 1/2 the crosses have such a muddled history you never know what reverse traits or dominant genetics will take over of course. That's been a real headache I see people fighting with from even the best breeders. Especially since this isn't massive scale clone/mother setup should be less problematic. The idea being in the long run for a quality/quantity maximizer from the space. I'm sure you've mulled that over, but it never hurts to hear it from other people in my book.

Just more food for thought. Keep up the good work.
 

cruzer101

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why would u hurt my lady? baha im sure she will recover just fine. shit is lookin great tho man. cant wait to see them in flower
It was the fan man. I hung that floor fan above her, I just wedged it in there, it felt solid but when we reversed the door it fell and took of a couple branches in the back. I just rotated her so most the growth is facing outwards.

Man those are sooooo beautiful. I can only imagine how good it smells in there!!
It is getting musky when I check on them in the mornings.

Even there, roaches come in different flavors. They are rather diverse of course. You want to keep in mind that there are varieties that will eat plant materials in loose soil and lay eggs there, etc. Most commonly they can be found in leaf piles and other compost like beddings. They look similar to what some people call waterbugs (common named due to their presence becoming a nuisance after rainy periods or high ground water saturations), but can be a real problem. For that matter they are really closely related, hence the similarity. Both live in similar conditions. One is more destructive than the other. Smaller than the more common roach of course. Roaches as a whole are part of an ecosystem and come with the planet. You've moved those planters around enough so I dont have to mention the idea that is where you are likely to find pest problems; underneath the planters. When you swap stuff out/switch out, definitely treat liberally that substrate/sand to help reduce any incursion of course. One of the reasons you see other greenhouses using raised platforms and the like is to help not only with working on the plants but to control problems like these. Personally I dont think you need to go that far, but you want to hedge your bets none the less. Besides you are already seeing those pots do their thing with the roots. No sense going for 100% isolation unless it is a closed ecosystem setup.

Not trying for doom and gloom, just something to keep in mind when you are running raised beds and planters. Sounds like you are well on top of it, but I had to chime in one the weirdness factor of "roaches" that I found shocking a while back. The idea of going 100% organic, no kill off of anything has its drawbacks. In my case it was being swarmed by the little buggers who were eating a compost pile. And then noticing they were literally "everywhere." On me, in my plant beds, etc. After the horror factor, I got to see there was damage directly from them. Researched it etc. Not that common an issue, but I have a weird respect now for their place in the world.

Speaking of pests, I hope you have those mites well under control. Crossing my fingers for ya. Wish you had a setup to isolate that one lady a little longer to be sure. Classic greenhouse headache. "Crap, now I need another one!" Never enough space.

One other side thought just on future strain selection I guess. If you come up with a winner or winners, I hope you can do a clone farm to help control the traits. Anymore the amount of pheno drift from seed batches and the like makes it really hard to be sure you are going to get the same results. That and 1/2 the crosses have such a muddled history you never know what reverse traits or dominant genetics will take over of course. That's been a real headache I see people fighting with from even the best breeders. Especially since this isn't massive scale clone/mother setup should be less problematic. The idea being in the long run for a quality/quantity maximizer from the space. I'm sure you've mulled that over, but it never hurts to hear it from other people in my book.

Just more food for thought. Keep up the good work.
That it is, Thanks for the info on the roaches, Maybe a bit more then I care to know but still good info, as for the spidermites The hot shot pest strip has worked for me in the past but it was indoor and I smelled it often and got sick. I dont think that will happen out there. The Active ingredient is: 18.6% Dichlorvos,

I dont know about a clone farm but have rooted a few in my little cloner. The blueberry and three God bud. Im gonna get something going, I just dont know what yet. Thing is I have access to several strains of clones so I am thinking about just a flat out flower operation aside from the one long veg during the summer.


Thanks for your input guys.​
 

cruzer101

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Yea, Im sure they will.
The deal is they are made for indoors when people are not there to keep bugs out.
It will make you sick so its not good to use where you hang out. I got them at Lowes heres a pic of the package:



The label says it kills all kinds of bugs incuding spider mites and is good for 4 months. Use one unit for 12x12 room but thats with doors and windows closed so I got two and I will replace every grow.

For flying insects I would try the yellow sticky ones first.
 

cutman

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wow dude that all i can say is wow. monsters. those baby are going to need help standing up when they bud. your looking at monster yields. thats just alsome cruz, very happy for ya. what happen to my plant, did it go into the cabnet? and how long do we half to wait for the light to change were you live,
 

DoeEyed

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Aw, it would have to be my pick giving you the most headache, lol. They look great Cruzer, man I can't believe how big they are getting!
 

cruzer101

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wow dude that all i can say is wow. monsters. those baby are going to need help standing up when they bud. your looking at monster yields. thats just alsome cruz, very happy for ya. what happen to my plant, did it go into the cabnet? and how long do we half to wait for the light to change were you live,
Hey bud, Yea the girls that are left are turning into some kind of Amazon bitches. I gotta do something quick or I will run out of room. So yesterday I went out and found some nylon fencing for a screen. The holes were to small but after a couple hours of cutting I made them bigger.





I will get this in this afternoon, I figure I will mount it at about 5 foot and feed the girls through it and tie back to it. This should also help support the stems when they start to flower. I should have done this a couple weeks ago. This is the first round so I dont really know when they will start flowering but my best guess is in about 4 to 6 weeks.


Sorry about your girl, Afghan Widow. She turned into one of the three twisted sisters I got outta this, Yea she went into the cab with the Mazar a couple weeks ago but still she hasnt done anything, same with the Mazar. All twisted up and stuck half in flower. I may end up just tossing them like I had to do with the God bud.

did ya top that blueberry?

Yes, I topped it when it was young. I was going to continue to top and use it as a mother indoors but then changed my mind. Thats the only one that has been topped so far.

They're turning into beasts.
I hear ya man. I't sort of overwhelming standing next to them. Something I'm sure I will get used to though. You know I did have to pull the God bud but I got three of her clones rooted in my small cab for another try in hydro. I think it was the super thrive I used, I read some strains react differently to it. Funny thing, the cuttings look like they are in week 4 of flower and they rooted, the blue dream that still in full veg hasn't and they been there for two weeks now.

Heres a shot,





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cruzer101

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Aw, it would have to be my pick giving you the most headache, lol. They look great Cruzer, man I can't believe how big they are getting!
Hey stranger, you must have posted while I was composing, Good to see ya.
Your girl is doing just great, no worries, i'm just babying her cause I can.
 

cutman

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:-( may it rip. i would still like to see you fill one of those cabnets up with auto. so i can compair the yeilds from soil to hydro. i promise you wont be disapointed bro. nice bud in half the time.
 
Mr. Cruzer I just spent like six hours reading your build and grow for the GH. Like everyone else I am Green with envy. Just wanted to say hi, and thank you for sharing this beautiful thing you got here. + rep + scribed
 
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