Balls Out First Grow(Whie Widow Scrog, 430w Son Agro Aircooled, DWC, CO2)

bigsourD

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Your hercules are the exactly the same age as my girls. This will be cool to compare in results. If i get anything anywhere near your quality i'll be very happy.
 

Integra21

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Looks amazing. I know someone who has got the same problem with leaves turning yellow and dying during flowering. I don't know what it is. The bud is fine and leaves within the buds and colas are still very green. Tric are nice and heavy. I guess energy is going into tric and overall bud production.
Im not sure where you are seeing yellowing, but there isnt any. If you are refering to the light green on the newest growth that is very normal and will fill in with darker green like the ones in the lower pics in the next week or two. This is a very normal occurance during the flower stretch and if your new growth is a real dark green, it is a good sign your ppm's are a little too high. Thanks for stopping by and you'll see them green up in a little bit.
Your hercules are the exactly the same age as my girls. This will be cool to compare in results. If i get anything anywhere near your quality i'll be very happy.
Cool, it will be for sure. What girls are you doing this run?
 

bigsourD

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Integra21 said:
Cool, it will be for sure. What girls are you doing this run?
I've got a variety right now. G13 Pineapple Express, Barney's Violator Kush, Greenhouse Bubba Kush, and a Greenhouse White Widow x Afghan cross that I made. And also i've got some DNA Kushberry and more violator kush clones goin right now for the next run.

I'll post some pics up here soon for ya if you wanna see.
 

DST

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Hey Integra, nice seed stash! The ladies are blooming great and they are sure getting there fuzz on. Do you ever try and germ some of the bagseed? perhaps some potential gems...
 

Integra21

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I have had them for a while now and havent poped one yet. I've been really saving them for when I get a chance to run some outdoor. I just have too many I want to try out before I would even try to run one out in my setup. Glad you like the stash. You'll like it even more in a little bit though....
 

littlegrower2004

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integra- looks like that madonna is going to give your blue kush g.p.w. ratio a run for its money. some big branches coming through the screen with a ton of hairs already! how many weeks does the strain flower for? and you want any people to help grow some of those seeds?? ill be more than happy to try some out for you!
 

Integra21

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integra- looks like that madonna is going to give your blue kush g.p.w. ratio a run for its money. some big branches coming through the screen with a ton of hairs already! how many weeks does the strain flower for? and you want any people to help grow some of those seeds?? ill be more than happy to try some out for you!
The Mdonna
(the one F1 / blue kronic)
Once in a while you come across a perfect plant that has it all. Madonna is a perfect Indica/Sativa hybrid in many ways: A flowering period of ten weeks, not too high, not too compact, the openness and grow speed of the Sativa, the dense compact buds of the Indica. As a basis we took The one (F1 Blueberry Sativa X Killa Queen/NYCD), a beautiful plant which does not continue to grow long in flowering. I called her The One because she has such a beautiful shape. We selected a Blue Kronic male (Blue Moonshine x Killa Queen) to enhance the Killa Queen specific sweet, grape and citric flavours. The result is Madonna.


Madonna shows the same strong plant development as its mother The One. It will fill you're grow room fast with dense and hard buds which smell like candy. She's a wide plant that forms a nice crown of buds if given the space. Madonna is an easy to handle plant.

Even in vegetative state the plant can smell very pungent, so a scrub filter is recommended for early vegetative growth as well.
The flavour and high produced by Madonna are incredible. She is sweet and soft and the taste lasts long. She invites you to take another hit taking you up while slowly creeping up on you and hitting you without any warning, forcing you to put her aside for a while.
Madonna, the perfect hybrid.
Type: Hybride Flower time 9-10 weeks
Harvest Up to 600 gram/m2 indoor
Taste Strong sweet grape and berry taste
Effect: Strong high/stoned combination flowers Covered in colors and trichomes
THC: Percentage up to 22%

And it is starting to get me thinking it might do alright, I was a little worried it wasnt stretching enough. I have already sent out tester seeds to a few lucky people and Im down to the personal reserve. If I breed again, I'll try to keep you in mind.
 

littlegrower2004

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integra- thanks for the info on madonna and keeping me in mind if you pop some seeds again. have you ever looked into lucas formula?
 

bigsourD

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Integra, I've got a question for you? What did you do for a nutrient res and how do you flush and all that? I know this question has probably been asked many other times but could I trouble ya to post some pics or something? I'm trying to get a DWC system going in inspiration to yours. Thanks

-BSD
 

Integra21

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Integra, I've got a question for you? What did you do for a nutrient res and how do you flush and all that? I know this question has probably been asked many other times but could I trouble ya to post some pics or something? I'm trying to get a DWC system going in inspiration to yours. Thanks

-BSD
My setup is very simple. My tub the girls sit in is my res. It hold 5 gallons of nutes when filled to the perfect level. I put ball valves on the tub, and empty 5 gallon bucket, and a bucket set up with an airstone and valve. I simply put a nutrient bottle under the opposite side of the valve to prop up that end, and then I hook my MagDrive inline pump($70) up to the res on one side and to the empty 5 gallon buket on the other. Then just empty to that, pull the bottle out thats proping up the other end, and gravity feed the res with the 5 gallon bucket with the air stone in it that I have already premixed nutrients in the day before. I do this process every day or every other day. It takes about 5 minutes per res. I change it so often because I have 3-6 plants sharing a 5 gallon res and they eat up quite a bit of nutrients(about 150ppm a day) and water(about1-2gallons). Here's a pic of the buckets I gravity feed with. They have Float valves with ro water hooked to them(to keep them full automatically), a 5.5" air disc each, and a 1/2" ball valve each.
 

bigsourD

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Another question though. Why do you need to prop up the bucket if it has a ball valve? Can't you just turn it off?
 

Integra21

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Another question though. Why do you need to prop up the bucket if it has a ball valve? Can't you just turn it off?
It is because it is a long shallow res and proping up the opposite corner of the res make all the nutrients at the bottom flow to the end with the ball valve so that I can get almost all of the old nutrients out.
 

PaulaBee

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Still learning about this BB sorry if I screw this up but Integra, it appears to me your light is too close to your plants and that is why you got burn towards the end. The plants still grow when they are in flower and it is easy to have them grow too close to the light. Other than that they look fabulous and great work documenting it here.
 

whiteraven

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hey integra i got a quick question. where did you get that fake iphone scale at?nice and stealthy! i even thought you were putting your phone for size comparison at first till i realized that it was the cover for your scales.keep up the great work
 

Pure

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Hey Intergra21,

Any particular reason that you DO NOT use a screen with smaller holes. Like chicken wire for instance? Convenience? Availability? No preference?

Thanks dude,
Ciao,
Pure...
 

Integra21

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did I understand you correctly...you also have a air stone in your reserve buckets?
yep, ihave an air stone in each bucket to keep it airated because if you premix it and let it sit for a day or two it makes your ph more stable when you give it to the girls. And if you let it sit for a day or two without air, it starts to spoil and get stagnent.
Still learning about this BB sorry if I screw this up but Integra, it appears to me your light is too close to your plants and that is why you got burn towards the end. The plants still grow when they are in flower and it is easy to have them grow too close to the light. Other than that they look fabulous and great work documenting it here.
All of my grows have had 2 different burns by the end since the 600w switch. The ones in the middle that grow more than about 4" above the screen generally get bleached by the light from it being to close, but that is the only real true weakness of my room since I cant get my lights even a mm higher. But the buds are always still great, so it really just messes up my pictures. The second burn you will notice hass gradually gotten better with every grow, and for some reason I cant stop it, and thats right on schedule, I get minor nutrient burn going into week 6 of every grow. I have yet to figure out the adjustment to my nutrients that is needed to prevent this, but I try something new every grow, so Im bound to figure it out eventually. Thank you for asking such good questions, cause these are how really good info gets into my threads. I dont always think to talk about all of these different variables.
hey integra i got a quick question. where did you get that fake iphone scale at?nice and stealthy! i even thought you were putting your phone for size comparison at first till i realized that it was the cover for your scales.keep up the great work
I got it at the local head shop for $35. They also have a blackberry model now. Just google blackberry or iphone scale and they will pop right up. Thanks for the compliment.
Hey Intergra21,

Any particular reason that you DO NOT use a screen with smaller holes. Like chicken wire for instance? Convenience? Availability? No preference?

Thanks dude,
Ciao,
Pure...
I chose my screen because it was as close as I could get to my "Perfect size". The real perfect size is 2"x2". Mine is 2"x3". Anything smaller and it is to hard to get the branches pushed up through and pulled back under. You end up tearing leaves all the time. even breaking branches on occasion. And if you go bigger, it is much harder to get that ideal spacing that gets you that monster yield. So there is a science to the madness.
 
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