Organics ARE chemicals
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Matt Rize
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Okay, we are all adults here, and so much BS is due to simple semantic differences. We all need to acknowledge that scientific and common terminology often disagree. But this is no reason to fight. We can all agree that table salt (the common usage, not salt as it is chemically defined) is made up of Sodium and Chloride. But that technically salt, in the chemical or scientific meaning, is pretty much any ionic compound. AGREED?Right!!!!!! It's Mr. "Sodium".
Since you have trouble retaining or comprehending, I'll say it again, I always fact check any link I put up. If I don't get at least one corroborating (It's a big word, I know) source, I won't put the link up. If you can show me one thing wrong with any of my links I will gladly take it down. I put up links from credible sources (which I have personally fact checked) to back up what I say. If that's a bad thing then so be it. I have a master's degree in chemistry so I think I know what I'm talking about here, but unlike some folks who just spout bullshit, I actually back up what I say. Keep on trolling.
And that when it comes down to it, organic food tastes better, I don't care what anyone says. I've been in the kitchen since I was a wee youth. Organic grass fed beef tastes way better than commercial bs beef. And Wagyu/Kobe have a taste/texture on another level above that. And organic small farm strawberries taste many times better than commercial strawberries. This doesn't take into account anything else, like the environment and gardener safety. Where organic beats synthetic as well.
doc111
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Ok, I'm done having a discussion with "waxy". This has nothing to do with semantics. He was trying to say that Sodium is salt. I told him there are many, many different types of salts. I pointed out that Sodium Chloride IS table salt but Sodium is an alkali metal ergo Sodium is NOT SALT. I've put up credible links, other members, yourself included have backed up what I have said. I was simply trying to correct some inaccurate information. This is what people who are trying to disseminate credible, accurate info should be subjected to??????????
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DownOnWax
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No you did not, now you are a straight up liar!Ok, I'm done having a discussion with "waxy". This has nothing to do with semantics. He was trying to say that Sodium is salt. I told him there are many, many different types of salts. I pointed out that Sodium Chloride IS table salt but Sodium is an alkali metal ergo Sodium is NOT SALT. I've put up credible links, other members, yourself included have backed up what I have said. I was simply trying to correct some inaccurate information. This is what people who are trying to disseminate credible, accurate info should be subjected to??????????
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There is much to learn about salt. Salt, sodium chloride, touches our lives more than any other chemical compound. The chemical properties and physical properties of sodium chloride are a treasure to mankind. Salt or salt-derived products are ubiquitous in our material world and the very cells of our bodies swim in a saline solution. We take for granted the salt crystals that make our foods safe and palatable and we give thanks for salt’s lifesaving properties when applied to slick winter roads. Most are unaware of the 14,000 known uses for salt, how it’s produced and our success in ensuring the environmental compatibility as it provides the foundation for the quality of our lives.
Mankind evolved from the sea and we have a saline “sea” within us as do all fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals. Environmental author Rachel Carson is best known for her book on birds, but she also wrote The Sea Around Us offering this insight: "When the animals went ashore to take up life on land, they carried part of the sea in their bodies, a heritage which they passed on to their children and which even today links each land animal with its origins in the ancient sea." Our blood has the same chemical balance of sodium, potassium and calcium found in the oceans.
Salt occurs naturally all over the world as the mineral halite, as well as in seawater and salt lakes. Some salt is one the surface, the dried-up residue of ancient seas like the famed Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Surface salt depositions and man-made saltworks can be seen from space. In ocean coastal areas, saltwater can "intrude" on underground freshwater supplies, complicating the lives of those who provide our drinking water supplies. Scientists have also found salt in meteors and on Mars where its presence signals the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
Chemical properties
Tight ionic bonding unites the elements sodium and chloride to make the chemical compound sodium chloride. Man has discovered a vast variety of ways to harness the chemical properties of salt to improve our lives. Chemically, there are many “salts;” the resulting compound created by reacting an acid and a base; positively charged metal atoms (the sodium ion in the case of common salt) replacing the negatively charged hydrogen atoms of an acid, leaving the chloride ion.
Physical properties
Sodium chloride crystals are cubic in form and salt crystals are commonly used to exemplify crystalline structure and many science students are familiar with the process of growing salt crystals. Its color varies from colorless, when pure, to white, gray or brownish when in the solid, halite, form. Salt dissolves readily in water. Salt crystals can be grown in various sizes and salt companies prepare particles in a wide variety of sizes to meet customer needs.
Where is salt found in nature ?
There is enough salt in the oceans of the world that we could use salt to sculpt a full-scale topographic map of Europe – five times over. Oceans contain an average of 2.7% salt, by weight (total solids in seawater average 3.5% and 77% of that is salt). In addition, evaporation of ancient oceans has left vast deposits of solid (rock) salt over huge areas of the world. These deposits can be in the form of bedded sedimentary layers or deep salt domes.
Will we run out of salt?
Never. Salt is the most common and readily available nonmetallic mineral in the world; it is so abundant, accurate estimates of salt reserves are unavailable. In the United States there are an estimated 55 trillion metric tons. Since the world uses 240 million tons of salt a year, U.S. reserves alone could sustain our needs for 100,000 years. And some of that usage is naturally recycled after use. The enormity of the Earth’s underground salt deposits, combined with the saline vastness of the Earth’s oceans makes the supply of salt inexhaustible.
Facts & Statistics
Unlike other strategic minerals, salt is widely available and produced in countless production units spread around the globe. The rapid industrialization of East Asia and South Asia have propelled increases in world salt production with China just easing past the United States as the world’s largest salt producing country.
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Mankind evolved from the sea and we have a saline “sea” within us as do all fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals. Environmental author Rachel Carson is best known for her book on birds, but she also wrote The Sea Around Us offering this insight: "When the animals went ashore to take up life on land, they carried part of the sea in their bodies, a heritage which they passed on to their children and which even today links each land animal with its origins in the ancient sea." Our blood has the same chemical balance of sodium, potassium and calcium found in the oceans.
Salt occurs naturally all over the world as the mineral halite, as well as in seawater and salt lakes. Some salt is one the surface, the dried-up residue of ancient seas like the famed Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Surface salt depositions and man-made saltworks can be seen from space. In ocean coastal areas, saltwater can "intrude" on underground freshwater supplies, complicating the lives of those who provide our drinking water supplies. Scientists have also found salt in meteors and on Mars where its presence signals the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
Chemical properties
Tight ionic bonding unites the elements sodium and chloride to make the chemical compound sodium chloride. Man has discovered a vast variety of ways to harness the chemical properties of salt to improve our lives. Chemically, there are many “salts;” the resulting compound created by reacting an acid and a base; positively charged metal atoms (the sodium ion in the case of common salt) replacing the negatively charged hydrogen atoms of an acid, leaving the chloride ion.
Physical properties
Sodium chloride crystals are cubic in form and salt crystals are commonly used to exemplify crystalline structure and many science students are familiar with the process of growing salt crystals. Its color varies from colorless, when pure, to white, gray or brownish when in the solid, halite, form. Salt dissolves readily in water. Salt crystals can be grown in various sizes and salt companies prepare particles in a wide variety of sizes to meet customer needs.
Where is salt found in nature ?
There is enough salt in the oceans of the world that we could use salt to sculpt a full-scale topographic map of Europe – five times over. Oceans contain an average of 2.7% salt, by weight (total solids in seawater average 3.5% and 77% of that is salt). In addition, evaporation of ancient oceans has left vast deposits of solid (rock) salt over huge areas of the world. These deposits can be in the form of bedded sedimentary layers or deep salt domes.
Will we run out of salt?
Never. Salt is the most common and readily available nonmetallic mineral in the world; it is so abundant, accurate estimates of salt reserves are unavailable. In the United States there are an estimated 55 trillion metric tons. Since the world uses 240 million tons of salt a year, U.S. reserves alone could sustain our needs for 100,000 years. And some of that usage is naturally recycled after use. The enormity of the Earth’s underground salt deposits, combined with the saline vastness of the Earth’s oceans makes the supply of salt inexhaustible.
Facts & Statistics
Unlike other strategic minerals, salt is widely available and produced in countless production units spread around the globe. The rapid industrialization of East Asia and South Asia have propelled increases in world salt production with China just easing past the United States as the world’s largest salt producing country.
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There is much to learn about salt. Salt, sodium chloride, touches our lives more than any other chemical compound. The chemical properties and physical properties of sodium chloride are a treasure to mankind. Salt or salt-derived products are ubiquitous in our material world and the very cells of our bodies swim in a saline solution. We take for granted the salt crystals that make our foods safe and palatable and we give thanks for salts lifesaving properties when applied to slick winter roads. Most are unaware of the 14,000 known uses for salt, how its produced and our success in ensuring the environmental compatibility as it provides the foundation for the quality of our lives.
Mankind evolved from the sea and we have a saline sea within us as do all fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals. Environmental author Rachel Carson is best known for her book on birds, but she also wrote The Sea Around Us offering this insight: "When the animals went ashore to take up life on land, they carried part of the sea in their bodies, a heritage which they passed on to their children and which even today links each land animal with its origins in the ancient sea." Our blood has the same chemical balance of sodium, potassium and calcium found in the oceans.
Salt occurs naturally all over the world as the mineral halite, as well as in seawater and salt lakes. Some salt is one the surface, the dried-up residue of ancient seas like the famed Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Surface salt depositions and man-made saltworks can be seen from space. In ocean coastal areas, saltwater can "intrude" on underground freshwater supplies, complicating the lives of those who provide our drinking water supplies. Scientists have also found salt in meteors and on Mars where its presence signals the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
Chemical properties
Tight ionic bonding unites the elements sodium and chloride to make the chemical compound sodium chloride. Man has discovered a vast variety of ways to harness the chemical properties of salt to improve our lives. Chemically, there are many salts; the resulting compound created by reacting an acid and a base; positively charged metal atoms (the sodium ion in the case of common salt) replacing the negatively charged hydrogen atoms of an acid, leaving the chloride ion.
Physical properties
Sodium chloride crystals are cubic in form and salt crystals are commonly used to exemplify crystalline structure and many science students are familiar with the process of growing salt crystals. Its color varies from colorless, when pure, to white, gray or brownish when in the solid, halite, form. Salt dissolves readily in water. Salt crystals can be grown in various sizes and salt companies prepare particles in a wide variety of sizes to meet customer needs.
Where is salt found in nature ?
There is enough salt in the oceans of the world that we could use salt to sculpt a full-scale topographic map of Europe five times over. Oceans contain an average of 2.7% salt, by weight (total solids in seawater average 3.5% and 77% of that is salt). In addition, evaporation of ancient oceans has left vast deposits of solid (rock) salt over huge areas of the world. These deposits can be in the form of bedded sedimentary layers or deep salt domes.
Will we run out of salt?
Never. Salt is the most common and readily available nonmetallic mineral in the world; it is so abundant, accurate estimates of salt reserves are unavailable. In the United States there are an estimated 55 trillion metric tons. Since the world uses 240 million tons of salt a year, U.S. reserves alone could sustain our needs for 100,000 years. And some of that usage is naturally recycled after use. The enormity of the Earths underground salt deposits, combined with the saline vastness of the Earths oceans makes the supply of salt inexhaustible.
Facts & Statistics
Unlike other strategic minerals, salt is widely available and produced in countless production units spread around the globe. The rapid industrialization of East Asia and South Asia have propelled increases in world salt production with China just easing past the United States as the worlds largest salt producing country.
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About salt
There is much to learn about salt. Salt, sodium chloride, touches our lives more than any other chemical compound. The chemical properties and physical properties of sodium chloride are a treasure to mankind. Salt or salt-derived products are ubiquitous in our material world and the very cells of our bodies swim in a saline solution. We take for granted the salt crystals that make our foods safe and palatable and we give thanks for salts lifesaving properties when applied to slick winter roads. Most are unaware of the 14,000 known uses for salt, how its produced and our success in ensuring the environmental compatibility as it provides the foundation for the quality of our lives.
Mankind evolved from the sea and we have a saline sea within us as do all fish, reptiles, amphibians, birds, and mammals. Environmental author Rachel Carson is best known for her book on birds, but she also wrote The Sea Around Us offering this insight: "When the animals went ashore to take up life on land, they carried part of the sea in their bodies, a heritage which they passed on to their children and which even today links each land animal with its origins in the ancient sea." Our blood has the same chemical balance of sodium, potassium and calcium found in the oceans.
Salt occurs naturally all over the world as the mineral halite, as well as in seawater and salt lakes. Some salt is one the surface, the dried-up residue of ancient seas like the famed Bonneville Salt Flats in Utah. Surface salt depositions and man-made saltworks can be seen from space. In ocean coastal areas, saltwater can "intrude" on underground freshwater supplies, complicating the lives of those who provide our drinking water supplies. Scientists have also found salt in meteors and on Mars where its presence signals the possibility of extra-terrestrial life.
Chemical properties
Tight ionic bonding unites the elements sodium and chloride to make the chemical compound sodium chloride. Man has discovered a vast variety of ways to harness the chemical properties of salt to improve our lives. Chemically, there are many salts; the resulting compound created by reacting an acid and a base; positively charged metal atoms (the sodium ion in the case of common salt) replacing the negatively charged hydrogen atoms of an acid, leaving the chloride ion.
Physical properties
Sodium chloride crystals are cubic in form and salt crystals are commonly used to exemplify crystalline structure and many science students are familiar with the process of growing salt crystals. Its color varies from colorless, when pure, to white, gray or brownish when in the solid, halite, form. Salt dissolves readily in water. Salt crystals can be grown in various sizes and salt companies prepare particles in a wide variety of sizes to meet customer needs.
Where is salt found in nature ?
There is enough salt in the oceans of the world that we could use salt to sculpt a full-scale topographic map of Europe five times over. Oceans contain an average of 2.7% salt, by weight (total solids in seawater average 3.5% and 77% of that is salt). In addition, evaporation of ancient oceans has left vast deposits of solid (rock) salt over huge areas of the world. These deposits can be in the form of bedded sedimentary layers or deep salt domes.
Will we run out of salt?
Never. Salt is the most common and readily available nonmetallic mineral in the world; it is so abundant, accurate estimates of salt reserves are unavailable. In the United States there are an estimated 55 trillion metric tons. Since the world uses 240 million tons of salt a year, U.S. reserves alone could sustain our needs for 100,000 years. And some of that usage is naturally recycled after use. The enormity of the Earths underground salt deposits, combined with the saline vastness of the Earths oceans makes the supply of salt inexhaustible.
Facts & Statistics
Unlike other strategic minerals, salt is widely available and produced in countless production units spread around the globe. The rapid industrialization of East Asia and South Asia have propelled increases in world salt production with China just easing past the United States as the worlds largest salt producing country.
Copyright 2009 Salt Institute. All Rights Reserved.
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I never said they were the same thing. Sodium and Sulfur are elements. Sodium is not salt. Sodium Chloride is salt. It's table salt. There are many different salts bro.
I don't know why that link didn't work but if you click on this one Salt (chemistry) it will take you to the page I was trying to show you.
No, no, no, no, NO! Sodium is NOT Salt! Sodium is an element in the class "alkali metals". Again, Sodium Chloride (NaCl) is table salt.
I am well aware that there is some rather dubious information in wikipedia, but I fact checked it personally before putting it up. I happen to know that the information is correct or I wouldn't have posted the link there champ.
You laugh your ass off all you want. Sodium and salt have nothing to do with each other. Sodium has something to do with table salt but Sodium Chloride is but one salt out of thousands. You go ahead and put me in your signature. I have a Master's degree in chemistry my friend. I personally don't care what you believe. You are free to remain ignorant if you so choose. What I won't tolerate is you spreading misinformation. Sodium is NOT SALT. Sodium Chloride is A SALT. Just one of many. It is the most common salt and the one most of us are familiar with but it is not the only salt and Sodium has nothing to do with salt itself. It DOES have something to do with table salt. I'm not arguing this point with you anymore. My grandfather once said, "You should never argue with idiots. They will only drag you down to their level."
Here is one more link that you probably won't read, but since you have a problem with wikipedia I figured I'd provide it for you.
http://www.chemistrydaily.com/chemistry/Salt
This is one of MY first posts after you said that "Sodium IS SALT!"
fabfun
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This is one of MY first posts after you said that "Sodium IS SALT!"
doc111
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Thanks.
Here is a periodic table of the elements. Remember it from science class? Well here is one which shows Sodium (chemical abbreviation Na) is element number 11. The color coding shows it to be an alkali metal. It's nothing personal, I was simply trying to correct a statement that was made which was not correct.
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Here's another article on salts which isn't from wikipedia or yahoo.
http://www.sciencebyjones.com/salts.htm
http://www.sciencebyjones.com/salts.htm
DownOnWax
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And do me a favor...Don't leave yet. You haven't found that contradiction have you?
When was the last time you grew some herb?
Because as far as I can see You have no Grow Journals and Nothing to back you up.
This IS a marijuana growing forum and yet YOU have NOTHING to show for yourself.
Matt Rize
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Dude, you are effing lame. Please leave.
Doc: way to not respond to this bs. Thread KILLED