God's Balls
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Uranium is organic. So is arsenic. Drink up!
Not all steroids are synthetic. Your body actually makes several different steroids. The point I was trying to make (unsuccessfully I guess) was that the steroids themselves are not dangerous. It's how they are used and the doseage that becomes a problem over prolonged use. It has nothing to do with the fact that they are synthetic or natural. Naturally produced steroids can be just as dangerous as synthetic steroids if misused. This holds true for nearly every substance. That's the only point I was trying to make.you are combining 2 things i said in separate thoughts. Steroids are synthetic, they should not be used in a humans except in certain specific circumstances. Just like it is not the best thing to put synthetics into your plants. The Insulin thing goes more with my problem of kelp extracts and such- and too much nitrogen will kill your plants too.
Your last comment also supports why organics is better than synthetics. we only know the nutrients plants need from minimalist testing. Deprive it of a specific nute and see what happens- theres how many elements and compounds out there? and the plants seem to suck it all up, so how do you know you are not depriving it of essential bacterial or microorganisms with your bottled synthetic nutes? im still not sure if i have everything when i make my active soils, and i put a lot of effort into that. We have even started buying some soil from the corn and fruit farmers around CO to use as a base. It needs to get tested and stuff, so it tends to be more expensive than the stuff we have been making, but i have seen some improved flavor in same clones from these batches. and as often as we get soils and meds tested we are starting to get deals.
Ya Prof Rize, been following you on here a bit, just never really started posting till i got real high the other day and couldnt stfu at work. so i figured id jump into some conversations here. Ya my problem with veganics is the soil construction. I am working on just watering the plants and letting them grow, but i havent found or made a soil where i havent had to add nutes to the water. any ideas, or we stuck with making teas and all that fun stuff
No they are not!Uranium is organic. So is arsenic. Drink up!
Replied here: https://www.rollitup.org/organics/364864-vegan-organics-professor-matt-veganics-32.htmlYa Prof Rize, been following you on here a bit, just never really started posting till i got real high the other day and couldnt stfu at work. so i figured id jump into some conversations here. Ya my problem with veganics is the soil construction. I am working on just watering the plants and letting them grow, but i havent found or made a soil where i havent had to add nutes to the water. any ideas, or we stuck with making teas and all that fun stuff
Thanks. You would think they would possess at the very least a basic college level understanding of the elements before posting.Neither organic production nor organic chemistry would define either of those elements as organic.
That's why I put both definitions up so there was no confusion. lol! No matter how you define "organic", arsenic and uranium don't fit any definition of "organic". BTW, carbonates are one of the exceptions to the "organic" molecule rule.Thanks. You would think they would possess at the very least a basic college level understanding of the elements before posting.
Organic in chemistry is a completely different concept than organic in gardening. Lets get that straight right here.
Organic in chemistry refers to molecules and compounds that contain Carbon. Period.
Organic in gardening is a complex idea that OMRI has attempted to define as "95% organic according to OMRI standards"
But in reality, organic in gardening means natural products from natural sources.
Yep. You think I would. But I didn't, so there.Thanks. You would think they would possess at the very least a basic college level understanding of the elements before posting.
That's what I was playing with, the idea that uranium/arsenic both occur naturally. Sorry to ruin your lesson plan.But in reality, organic in gardening means natural products from natural sources.
touche, there are always exceptions, i should not have been so simple in my explanation. thanks again. a professor and a doctorThat's why I put both definitions up so there was no confusion. lol! No matter how you define "organic", arsenic and uranium don't fit any definition of "organic". BTW, carbonates are one of the exceptions to the "organic" molecule rule.
There ARE always exceptions. Thanks again, a paid writer.touche, there is always exceptions, i should not have been so simple in my explanation. thanks again. a professor and a doctor
I'm just giving you shit bro. lol! God's Balls does bring up a really good point that I was trying to illustrate. Arsenic and Uranium are both relatively dangerous naturally occurring elements. Although to further go into the rabbit hole, most biochemists accept that arsenic is actually needed in miniscule quantities. Who'd a' thunk?touche, there is always exceptions, i should not have been so simple in my explanation. thanks again. a professor and a doctor
And to continue your lesson. In the Cannabis gardening world "organic" has multiple meanings. Old school organics refers to growing in a soil with natural amendments, using teas to unlock the soil food web. New school organics refers to soil-less and hydro organics, which boils down to certified organic products. This refers to peat, coco, and/or bark based media, with or without natural amendments, bottled/packaged plant/animal derived food, and teas.Yep. You think I would. But I didn't, so there.
That's what I was playing with, the idea that uranium/arsenic both occur naturally. Sorry to ruin your lesson plan.
thanks, writer who pays an editor...There ARE always exceptions. Thanks again, a paid writer.
For sure, for sure. At the dispensary I hear alot of questions about just how "organic" the meds really are. But you figure, some hydro nutes fly the organic flag--yet are labeled so on just a small corner of the packaging. (PureBlendPro) So stands to reason there's also alot of kids working "organic" that don't even realize it. On the other hand, my pal goes down to the bait shop and gets dead minnows for free. Tosses them right in the soil.And to continue your lesson. In the Cannabis gardening world "organic" has multiple meanings. Old school organics refers to growing in a soil with natural amendments, using teas to unlock the soil food web. New school organics refers to soil-less and hydro organics, which boils down to certified organic products. This refers to peat, coco, and/or bark based media, with or without natural amendments, bottled/packaged plant/animal derived food, and teas.
I'll never admit to using Auto-Tune, hahaha. Besides, professor, my idea behind college was to STAY finished.thanks, writer who pays an editor...
WTF?No they are not!
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/organic
http://education.yahoo.com/reference/encyclopedia/entry?id=35211
Neither organic production nor organic chemistry would define either of those elements as organic.
Right!!!!!! It's Mr. "Sodium".WTF?
All you do is quote Wikipedia and Yahoo!
These sites you use as reference are in NO WAY the definitive answer.
Hopefully one of these days you will come up with your own ideas and thought process, until then...
How do you like them apples?