Like I said before, you've been taking the position of defending Christianity against the points I and MP have been making against it.
I'm defending religion and spirituality and have denounced Christianity multiple times.
"meditation or mythology" - that's what you think "teaching your kid your religion" means?
Well fuck, there's the problem! There's absolutely nothing wrong with teaching a child meditation or mythology, which teaching any religion isn't.
Yes it is.
Just stop. You have absolutely no concept of the meaning of religion. You speak of nothing other than chrisitianity, and your grasp on that is weak as hell too. Protip: The bible is mythology.
Which parts are and which parts aren't? How do you know? Why do so many Christians disagree about this simple question? Most of the Christians I know would say the Bible is inspired by the word of God and written by man, so it would contain errors. So how does someone figure out what the errors are and what the inspired from God parts are?
Everything. It's a book of mythology and metaphor. Even in Jesus' time, his biggest problem was people failing to understand the simple points he was trying to make. Change the book around until it's nearly unrecognizable and add 2000 years to this and you get what we have today.
Dude, at this point, I don't even think you know what you are... What's the name of the thread again... Oh yeah "this is why I believe...", so, why do you believe?
I suspect you haven't put it out there yet because you know we'd tear it to pieces. Prove me wrong.
Also, point out anyone in the thread whose not an atheist or a Christian. Anyone whose actually stated clearly what they believe that is.
This is your problem. MOST people don't quantify their beliefs into a single label. You're completely stuck on labels and that's all you can think about. I even included one for myself, for your convenience.
I've stated multiple times, clearly, what I believe. It's not my fault if you lack the faculty to use google and look up the word "pagan".
As to why, the simple answer is because it works. "Tear that to pieces" please.
...dude, seriously, there's just not enough time, I'm sorry...
cop out much?
ROFL @ that! How is one "raised atheist"? "Henry!! Come in here!" "yeah mom..?" "You better not be believing in God in there!!" "I'm not mom..." "cuz Goddamnit you know you were raised ATHEIST!!"..
Give me a break. You aren't "raised atheist". You decide for yourself when you think past the bullshit that organized religion is. The entire concept of God and just about everything that goes along with is is simply impossible in logistical terms. If your God doesn't think in logistical terms, then he's not omnipotent. If he's not omnipotent, then he's not God.
Nice job with the totally unrelated misquote, but yeah as far as the actual point, this is full of shit. It's really as simple as a parent saying "Don't trust what the churches or bible tell you, it's not true".But deny the way I was raised, go ahead. I'm sure you were there and obviously know better than I do what my mother said to me.
That sounds like something you would hear George Bush say, holy shit..
"you have to ask questions and be skeptical, but you can't trust the answers to the questions" .. What??
You state shit like this and don't even realize the clear benefit the scientific method provides. That's why it's there. It takes the human error out of the equation.
Science win. Religion fail.
Science - test, observe, measure, track, record, test again, compare results, refine conclusions, understand the universe a little bit better
Religion - trust, believe, have faith, pray, pay, ask forgiveness
More bullshit about Christianity. Not all belief systems work this way.
Nope, wrong again, you must love being wrong, damn...
I know it's not my right to make anyone believe anything, not to mention, not my fucking job. I think it is the individuals obligation and responsibility to educate themselves enough to realize this shit is the literal ball and chain around the ankle of humanities 21st century body. It's like a crackhead cousin who we love so much we can't send them to rehab. They drain all our resources and give us no respect, but fuck, we love the guy! And all you passive believers are the enablers. The people who see nothing wrong with what organized religion has done to our species. The people who think standing up for equal rights and defending science is somehow "atheist fundamentalism" or "Christian oppression". ROFL!
"I think it's everyone's individual responsibility to be an atheist". Thanks for proving my point.
If you're a Christian or a Jew the 10 commandments apply to you. And I'm pretty sure Obama got the Christian right's vote, I mean, even though they think he's a Muslim, right...
I'll say it again, and you can deny deny deny till the end of the Earth, but I stand by this, tolerance for other religions aren't present in any of them. The 10 commandments attest to that with Christianity and Judaism, and I'm pretty sure Islam explains that point pretty clearly.
It is also obvious why. Because other religions are a threat. Proponents of Christianity didn't want anything else to compete with it, just like Muslims don't want anything to compete with Islam. It's exactly the same.
Buddhism, Taoism, daoism, hinduism, yoism, new age spirituality, paganism, wicca, druidism, Jedi, native american worship,
Just a couple of "labeled" religions that don't profess to be the one true way and have no reason to criticize others for their beliefs. It's painfully obvious that atheism doesn't make this list as
ALL atheists do nothing but put others down for their own beliefs. See what I did there?
Also, 80% of the country (approximate, I don't have the actual figure) Identifies as Christian, so obviously 80% of the country voted Against Barack Obama, right? And he still got in? Wow this is even worse than the Bush elections!
You can teach someone every single lesson religion provides without telling them they're going to be condemned to an eternity of torment if they don't play by the rules. When people do things for the wrong reasons they don't learn anything about making the right choices. We have the wealthiest country in human history, but are plagued by problems organized religion provides. It poisons almost every single issue we face in one way or another. This is why I take such a harsh stance against it, because it's literally everywhere, causing or perpetuating every single problem out there. You name it, I'll show you how.
The same could be said for the corporate greed that permeates all of American society. It's also full of shit that organized religion is responsible for every single problem. Atheism is a pretty big problem and I don't see any organized religion promoting it.
Why are some people so susceptible to God but others not at all?
People are different. The same reason some people cry at movies and others do not, the same reason some people like olives and others do not.