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[UncleBuck]

[youtube]QUCGn82l5u8[/youtube]

that proved absolutely nothing

 

[poonjoon]

you make the claim that the there is a global elite that wants to depopulate 2/3 of the populace.

that is an EXTRAORDINARY clamin.

thus, you need EXTRAORDINARY evidence to support it.

get cracking. all i have seen so far are youtube clips with eerie music playing in the background.

you know more than anyone here that i can support what i say with empirical evidence and primary sources, not youtube clips and conspiracy theory websites made by 18 year old drop outs. i stopped having debates on here because they weren't debates. but yeah, i did take a stab at you, sorry, you guys can get back to your back and forth playtime but i choose to stay out of all these half-assed conversations on serious topics filled with nothing but hearsay and name calling.

 

[beardo]

you make the claim that the there is a global elite that wants to depopulate 2/3 of the populace.

that is an EXTRAORDINARY clamin.

thus, you need EXTRAORDINARY evidence to support it.

get cracking. all i have seen so far are youtube clips with eerie music playing in the background.

Did you see the last clip of bill gates speaking without music talking about Zero-CO2 emissions, The hot air I breath is CO2, theirs so many more pieces, georgia guide stones, the U.N. N.A.T.O. the I.M.F. check it out if your intrested.

 

[beardo]

Did you see the last clip of bill gates speaking without music talking about Zero-CO2 emissions, The hot air I breath is CO2, theirs so many more pieces, georgia guide stones, the U.N. N.A.T.O. the I.M.F. check it out if your intrested.

[youtube]fVrAfv77sfI&feature=fvsr[/youtube]

 

[UncleBuck]

Did you see the last clip of bill gates speaking without music talking about Zero-CO2 emissions, The hot air I breath is CO2, theirs so many more pieces, georgia guide stones, the U.N. N.A.T.O. the I.M.F. check it out if your intrested.

zero co2 is a hypothetical goal, not a realistic one. the goal is to get as close to zero as possible. the goal is not to actually get to zero, that would be disaster. that would mean bill gates was advocating his own suicide as well as the rest of the entire world including his wife and children as well as eliminating any other source of co2 in the entire world (kiss volcanoes goodbye). have you never been to an academic lecture?

also, there are 3 other factors in that equation. you can have 3 factors in the equation equal to infinity, but as long a one factor is zero or negative, the rest equals zero or negative. do you not understand simple mathematics?

this video does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prove the assertion that there is a global elite that controls everything and wants to reduce the populace by 2/3.

try again.

 

[UncleBuck]

you know more than anyone here that i can support what i say with empirical evidence and primary sources, not youtube clips and conspiracy theory websites made by 18 year old drop outs.

nope. not even close.

you have done NOTHING to prove that global warming is a scheme by the global elite to depopulate 2/3 the population, as you claimed.

you did not even debate honestly about what IS or IS NOT a straightforward question, a question to which 75 out of 77 climatologists with a majority of peer-reviewed research papers on the subject of global warming assented.

2) Do you think human activity is a significant contributing factor in changing mean global temperatures?

Question number 2 is a vague question that does not properly address the issue of anthropogenic global warming.

i stopped the debate with you shortly after this because you are stuck in your ridiculous viewpoint. i admitted that i am on the fence about the degree to which man has an effect on mean global temperatures and climate change and what consequences those changes may have on our lives. you are the one that says...

There is a small upper echelon elite that control major aspects of the global theater....They want to depopulate the earth by 2/3's to make total control a more viable goal; hence the scheme of global warming.

so tell me, what evidence have you presented to support your EXTRAORDINARY claim as quoted, word for word, above?

PROVE IT!

 

[Hayduke]

but if you would be so kind, please explain to me what these chemtrails are and who is doing them and to what end.

beardo seems to think fluoride is part of some scheme by the global elite to depopulate 2/3 of the world's population. do chemtrails also fit into this fatalistic equation, this sinister and nefarious kabal?

I am not sure what, who or why...What I am SURE of is that they are not normal condensation trails, unfortunately, during my 40 years of personal observation, I failed to have my observations peer reviewed. Some people have some pretty good answers as to what (geoengineering) some say the why is weather manipulation, and the who sure seems to be the USAF...but they do not give a rat's ass about the climate I know that you are too smart for stuff like this and lucky for us else the pasture become overgrown but here you go...[youtube]-K9rXydMmfw[/youtube]

Over 18 and not dropouts, but I am sure that you are much smarter and maybe if we pray real hard to you...you might chisel all the answers on 10 or 12 stones for the betterment of humanity oh Father Buck!

is that because you say so, or can you actually cite a reputable study?

my grandma has been drinking fluoridated water for over 85 years now. she is still sharp as a tack, works cleaning houses a couple days a week, keeps her own garden, and chases deer off her lawn.

So is this just because you say so??? We are just supposed to believe your Granny's immunity to Flouride???

you can have 3 factors in the equation equal to infinity, but as long a one factor is zero or negative, the rest equals zero or negative. do you not understand simple mathematics?


try again.

infinity + zero + infinity = that's right...Infinity

infinity + 1 + (-)1 = Infinity

(Infinity)(-1)(-1) = Infinity

I am no mathematician...or an Uncle for that matter...but????

Try smoking some pot dude...it helps to change the way you see things...It ALLOWS the brainwashed mind to question things again...might need to flush with some RO water though...not sure.

I'm sure I could do a google search to find out...but I would probably just get info from some young dropout...so I will just go straight to the source of wisdom here...does Fluoride or Fluoride salts bio-accumulate?? (like troll spray) or does it just pass the Liver and kidneys without any issues?

 

[poonjoon]

lol what a joke

 

[Hayduke]

my grandma has been drinking fluoridated water for over 85 years now. she is still sharp as a tack, works cleaning houses a couple days a week, keeps her own garden, and chases deer off her lawn.

so tell me, what evidence have you presented to support your EXTRAORDINARY claim as quoted, word for word, above?

PROVE IT!

You have not presented any evidence that you ever had an 85yo grandmother.

As for all of these wild conspiracy claims...you obviously have not checked all of the sources...Of course all of these ominous schemes are well documented and peer reviewed with abstracts, methods, data and conclusions in the Journal of super secret shit we are keeping from the public for their own good but wrote it all down to convince curious sheep...or the JSSSWKFP4OG...for short

 

[UncleBuck]

infinity + zero + infinity = that's right...Infinity

infinity + 1 + (-)1 = Infinity

(Infinity)(-1)(-1) = Infinity

I am no mathematician...or an Uncle for that matter...but????

Try smoking some pot dude...it helps to change the way you see things...It ALLOWS the brainwashed mind to question things again...might need to flush with some RO water though...not sure.

(infinity)(infinity)(infinity)(0) = 0

like i said, all you need is for one (ie, not one or more) factor to be zero or negative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension

i use distilled water, by the way. <1 ppm, but thank you for the advice.

 

[UncleBuck]

So is this just because you say so??? We are just supposed to believe your Granny's immunity to Flouride???

you can call her, but it's pretty late, and she'd probably bite your ear off for being such an a-hole. probably because she is so tired and complacent and lazy from drinking fluoride water all her life.

 

[UncleBuck]

I am not sure what, who or why...

so you have ZERO solid answers. ZERO answers at all.

thank you for saving the day.

 

[beardo]

(infinity)(infinity)(infinity)(0) = 0

like i said, all you need is for one (ie, not one or more) factor to be zero or negative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension

i use distilled water, by the way. <1 ppm, but thank you for the advice.

Are you saying you avoid fluoridated water? I thought you were saying how fluoride is good for you. Why do you use distilled water when you could be using fluoridated water?

 

[beardo]

Are you saying you avoid fluoridated water? I thought you were saying how fluoride is good for you. Why do you use distilled water when you could be using fluoridated water?

[youtube]HzQGxTW1UT4[/youtube]

 

[Hayduke]

(infinity)(infinity)(infinity)(0) = 0

like i said, all you need is for one (ie, not one or more) factor to be zero or negative.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading_comprehension

i use distilled water, by the way. <1 ppm, but thank you for the advice.

Like I said...unless you are dealing with multiplication or division...having a factor of zero or ONLY one negative number does not mean the equation equals zero in all cases...a super smart guy like you who seems to be aroused by absolutes should know this!

you can call her, but it's pretty late, and she'd probably bite your ear off for being such an a-hole. probably because she is so tired and complacent and lazy from drinking fluoride water all her life.

so you have ZERO solid answers. ZERO answers at all.

thank you for saving the day.

Dude...I have the ability to say IDK...Again what I do know is that the trails are NOT water vapor alone...this is as solid an answer as my grandma still chases off deer after more years drinking fluoridated water than it has been used only this anecdotal evidence is NOT second hand.

Living at the SW corner of the US and seeing jets flying WNW from East of San Diego and LA...So what these flights are going from Vegas or Phoenix to China without stopping in LA or SD for fuel...and just how many flights per day do we have crossing the Pacific far North of Hawaii???

Or even better...the new one is huge U-turns in the sky!!! I guess the pilot was like "oh damn, did I leave the iron on!?!?!?!, We gotta turn around quick!!! It was fairly fresh at 7:30 am and though it had drifted to the NE a bit...was still plainly visible at 12:30pm. That ain't normal! But...you know what they say...Ignorance is Bliss!

Are you saying you avoid fluoridated water? I thought you were saying how fluoride is good for you. Why do you use distilled water when you could be using fluoridated water?

 

[poonjoon]

To be honest, I don't want to debate on here anymore but because all those who keep talking about chemtrails are seriously lacking any evidence, I figured I'd chime in a little bit. I'm not going to spend a lot of time on my reply so I'm just going to copy and paste certain things from another debate I had that I've saved on file. Hopefully this will help out those who "believe" chemtrails exist and give them something to research instead of continuing to watch youtube clips of the skies. I've personally tracked chemtrails in a journal every day for almost a year (10 months to be exact). In this time, I've been able to realize what the chemtrails actually were (personal experience, in my eyes - take it for what that's worth). It is weather modification and there are side effects that fall upon the general population due to the chemicals used to spray the skies. Basically, these Air Force tanker planes spray in X-like grid patterns and after several hours these spread out and form clouds. They're not like the clouds we're used to but "blanket-clouds" - meaning they cover the skies in entirety so you can't see past at all. Then it rains. Other times, chemtrails are sprayed to make clouds disperse and create a clear sky. [I can photocopy my journal of chemtrails and post it but it's not worth much in terms of evidence for a debate]
​

Anyway, hopefully some of you find this information of use and will lead you on more specific details of chemtrail research.

*Note: There is an overwhelming amount of information out there on this subject but I will try to keep this short and will only copy one part of my debate with another person on the subject of Chemtrails.

Before anything, I'd like to present the easiest thing to look for and the most obvious. There are two pages on Wikipedia. One is for "Cloud Seeding" and one is for "Chemtrail Conspiracy Theory". Just by the name you can see the bias in the subject. They are both the same thing but the term "Chemtrail" is linked directly to "conspiracy theory", whereas "cloud seeding" is something that is "beneficial for mankind in the fight against global warming":

Cloud Seeding:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

Chemtrail Conspiracy Theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail

It must be understood that the term "Chemtrails" was first brought out by the US government, NOT conspiracy theorists. This can be found in all the patents and research that have been released or declassified:

[You may look up the following patents here to verify:

http://patft.uspto.gov/

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/ ]

1225521 - May 8, 1917 - Protection From Poisonous Gas in Warfare
Referenced in 4704942 - Charged aerosol:

"A method of defending against a warfare cloud of toxic aerosol utilizes
a charged defensive aerosol which is sprayed into the cloud.
The defensive aerosol is made of a defensive agent
which may be chemically or biologically active."

1302332 - April 29, 1919 -Toy Machine Gun - F.V. Du Pont:

Referenced in - 4141274 which is for a smoke generator,which evolved into the particle and aerosol devices in use today.

1338343 - April 27, 1920 - Process And Apparatus For The Production of Intense Artificial Clouds, Fogs, or Mists

1619183 - March 1, 1927 - Process of Producing Smoke Clouds From Moving Aircraft

1631753 - June 7, 1927 - Electric Heater - Referenced in 3990987

1665267 - April 10, 1928 - Process of Producing Artificial Fogs

1892132 - December 27, 1932 - Atomizing Attachment For Airplane Engine Exhausts

1928963 - October 3, 1933 - Electrical System And Method

1957075 - May 1, 1934 - Airplane Spray Equipment

2097581 - November 2, 1937 - Electric Stream Generator - Referenced in 3990987

2409201 - October 15, 1946 - Smoke Producing Mixture

2476171 - July 18, 1945 - Smoke Screen Generator
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2480967 - September 6, 1949 - Aerial Discharge Device
Here is the image tied to this patent and basically this is what the Air Force tanker planes are designed like (though, obviously, it is a lot more high tech now, 50 years later):

View attachment 1277237


2550324 - April 24, 1951 - Process For Controlling Weather

2510867 - October 9, 1951 - Method of Crystal Formation and Precipitation

2582678 - June 15, 1952 - Material Disseminating Apparatus For Airplanes

2591988 - April 8, 1952 - Production of TiO2 Pigments - Referenced in 3899144

2614083 - October 14, 1952 - Metal Chloride Screening Smoke Mixture

2633455 - March 31, 1953 - Smoke Generator

2688069 - August 31, 1954 - Steam Generator - Referenced in 3990987

2721495 - October 25, 1955 - Method And Apparatus For Detecting Minute Crystal Forming Particles Suspended in a Gaseous Atmosphere

2730402 - January 10, 1956 - Controllable Dispersal Device

2801322 - July 30, 1957 - Decomposition Chamber for Monopropellant Fuel - Referenced in 3990987

2881335 - April 7, 1959 - Generation of Electrical Fields

2908442 - October 13, 1959 - Method For Dispersing Natural Atmospheric Fogs And Clouds

2986360 - May 30, 1962 - Aerial Insecticide Dusting Device

2963975 - December 13, 1960 - Cloud Seeding Carbon Dioxide Bullet

3126155 - March 24, 1964 - Silver Iodide Cloud Seeding Generator - Referenced in 3990987

3127107 - March 31, 1964 - Generation of Ice-Nucleating Crystals

3131131 - April 28, 1964 - Electrostatic Mixing in Microbial Conversions

3234357 - February 8, 1966 - Electrically Heated Smoke Producing Device

3274035 - September 20, 1966 - Metallic Composition For Production of Hydroscopic Smoke

3300721 - January 24, 1967 - Means For Communication Through a Layer of Ionized Gases

3313487 - April 11, 1967 - Cloud Seeding Apparatus

3338476 - August 29, 1967 - Heating Device For Use With Aerosol Containers - Referenced in 3990987

3410489 - November 12, 1968 - Automatically Adjustable Airfoil Spray System With Pump

3429507 - February 25, 1969 - Rainmaker

3432208 - November 7, 1967 - Fluidized Particle Dispenser

3441214 - April 29, 1969 - Method And Apparatus For Seeding Clouds

3445844 - May 20, 1969 - Trapped Electromagnetic Radiation Communications System

3456880 - July 22, 1969 - Method Of Producing Precipitation From The Atmosphere

3518670 - June 30, 1970 - Artificial Ion Cloud

3534906 - October 20, 1970 - Control of Atmospheric Particles

3545677 - December 8, 1970 - Method of Cloud Seeding

3564253 - February 16, 1971 - System And Method For Irradiation Of Planet Surface Areas

3587966 - June 28, 1971 - Freezing Nucleation

3601312 - August 24, 1971 - Methods of Increasing The Likelihood of Precipatation By The Artificial Introduction Of Sea Water Vapor Into The Atmosphere Winward Of An Air Lift Region

3608810 - September 28, 1971 - Methods of Treating Atmospheric Conditions

3608820 - September 20, 1971 - Treatment of Atmospheric Conditions by Intermittent Dispensing of Materials Therein

3613992 - October 19, 1971 - Weather Modification Method

3630950 - December 28, 1971 - Combustible Compositions For Generating Aerosols, Particularly Suitable For Cloud Modification And Weather Control And Aerosolization Process

USRE29142 - This patent is a reissue of patent US

3630950 - Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process

3659785 - December 8, 1971 - Weather Modification Utilizing Microencapsulated Material

3666176 - March 3, 1972 - Solar Temperature Inversion Device

3677840 - July 18, 1972 - Pyrotechnics Comprising Oxide of Silver For Weather Modification Use

3722183 - March 27, 1973 - Device For Clearing Impurities From The Atmosphere

3769107 - October 30, 1973 - Pyrotechnic Composition For Generating Lead Based Smoke

3784099 - January 8, 1974 - Air Pollution Control Method

3785557 - January 15, 1974 - Cloud Seeding System

3795626 - March 5, 1974 - Weather Modification Process

3808595 - April 30, 1974 - Chaff Dispensing System

3813875 - June 4, 1974 - Rocket Having Barium Release System to Create Ion Clouds In The Upper Atmopsphere

3835059 - September 10, 1974 - Methods of Generating Ice Nuclei Smoke Particles For Weather Modification And Apparatus Therefore

3835293 - September 10, 1974 - Electrical Heating Aparatus For Generating Super Heated Vapors - Referenced in 3990987

3877642 - April 15, 1975 - Freezing Nucleant

3882393 - May 6, 1975 - Communications System Utilizing Modulation of The Characteristic Polarization of The Ionosphere

3896993 - July 29, 1975 - Process For Local Modification of Fog And Clouds For Triggering Their Precipitation And For Hindering The Development of Hail Producing Clouds

3899129 - August 12, 1975 - Apparatus for generating ice nuclei smoke particles for weather modification

3899144 - August 12, 1975 - Powder contrail generation

3940059 - February 24, 1976 - Method For Fog Dispersion

3940060 - February 24, 1976 - Vortex Ring Generator

3990987 - November 9, 1976 - Smoke generator

3992628 - November 16, 1976 - Countermeasure system for laser radiation

3994437 - November 30, 1976 - Broadcast dissemination of trace quantities of biologically active chemicals

4042196 - August 16, 1977 - Method and apparatus for triggering a substantial change in earth characteristics and measuring earth changes

RE29,142 - February 22, 1977 - Reissue of: 03630950 - Combustible compositions for generating aerosols, particularly suitable for cloud modification and weather control and aerosolization process

4035726 - July 12, 1977 - Method of controlling and/or improving high-latitude and other communications or radio wave surveillance systems by partial control of radio wave et al

4096005 - June 20, 1978 - Pyrotechnic Cloud Seeding Composition

4129252 - December 12, 1978 - Method and apparatus for production of seeding materials

4141274 - February 27, 1979 - Weather modification automatic cartridge dispenser

4167008 - September 4, 1979 - Fluid bed chaff dispenser

4347284 - August 31, 1982 - White cover sheet material capable of reflecting ultraviolet rays

4362271 - December 7, 1982 - Procedure for the artificial modification of atmospheric precipitation as well as compounds with a dimethyl sulfoxide base for use in carrying out said procedure

4402480 - September 6, 1983 - Atmosphere modification satellite

4412654 - November 1, 1983 - Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids

4415265 - November 15, 1983 - Method and apparatus for aerosol particle absorption spectroscopy

4470544 - September 11, 1984 - Method of and Means for weather modification

4475927 - October 9, 1984 - Bipolar Fog Abatement System

4600147 - July 15, 1986 - Liquid propane generator for cloud seeding apparatus

4633714 - January 6, 1987 - Aerosol particle charge and size analyzer

4643355 - February 17, 1987 - Method and apparatus for modification of climatic conditions

4653690 - March 31, 1987 - Method of producing cumulus clouds

4684063 - August 4, 1987 - Particulates generation and removal

4686605 - August 11, 1987 - Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere

4704942 - November 10, 1987 - Charged Aerosol

4712155 - December 8, 1987 - Method and apparatus for creating an artificial electron cyclotron heating region of plasma

4744919 - May 17, 1988 - Method of dispersing particulate aerosol tracer

4766725 - August 30, 1988 - Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

4829838 - May 16, 1989 - Method and apparatus for the measurement of the size of particles entrained in a gas

4836086 - June 6, 1989 - Apparatus and method for the mixing and diffusion of warm and cold air for dissolving fog

4873928 - October 17, 1989 - Nuclear-sized explosions without radiation

4948257 - August 14, 1990 - Laser optical measuring device and method for stabilizing fringe pattern spacing

4948050 - August 14, 1990 - Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying

4999637 - March 12, 1991 - Creation of artificial ionization clouds above the earth

5003186 - March 26, 1991 - Stratospheric Welsbach seeding for reduction of global warming

5005355 - April 9, 1991 - Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

5038664 - August 13, 1991 - Method for producing a shell of relativistic particles at an altitude above the earths surface

5041760 - August 20, 1991 - Method and apparatus for generating and utilizing a compound plasma configuration

5041834 - August 20, 1991 - Artificial ionospheric mirror composed of a plasma layer which can be tilted

5056357 - October 15, 1991- Acoustic method for measuring properties of a mobile medium

5059909 - October 22, 1991 - Determination of particle size and electrical charge

5104069 - April 14, 1992 - Apparatus and method for ejecting matter from an aircraft

5110502 - May 5, 1992 - Method of suppressing formation of contrails and solution therefor

5156802 - October 20, 1992 - Inspection of fuel particles with acoustics

5174498 - December 29, 1992 - Cloud Seeding

5148173 - September 15, 1992 - Millimeter wave screening cloud and method

5245290 - September 14, 1993 - Device for determining the size and charge of colloidal particles by measuring electroacoustic effect

5286979 - February 15, 1994 - Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin

5296910 - March 22, 1994 - Method and apparatus for particle analysis

5327222 - July 5, 1994 - Displacement information detecting apparatus

5357865 - October 25, 1994 - Method of cloud seeding

5360162 - November 1, 1994 - Method and composition for precipitation of atmospheric water

5383024 - January 17, 1995 - Optical wet steam monitor

5425413 - June 20, 1995 - Method to hinder the formation and to break-up overhead atmospheric inversions, enhance ground level air circulation and improve urban air quality

5434667 - July 18, 1995 - Characterization of particles by modulated dynamic light scattering

5441200 - August 15, 1995 - Tropical cyclone disruption

5486900 - January 23, 1996 - Measuring device for amount of charge of toner and image forming apparatus having the measuring device

5556029 - September 17, 1996 - Method of hydrometeor dissipation (clouds)

5628455 - May 13, 1997 - Method and apparatus for modification of supercooled fog

5631414 - May 20, 1997 - Method and device for remote diagnostics of ocean-atmosphere system state

5639441 - June 17, 1997 - Methods for fine particle formation

5762298 - June 9, 1998 - Use of artificial satellites in earth orbits adaptively to modify the effect that solar radiation would otherwise have on earth's weather

5912396 - June 15, 1999 - System and method for remediation of selected atmospheric conditions

5922976 - July 13, 1999 - Method of measuring aerosol particles using automated mobility-classified aerosol detector

5949001 - September 7, 1999 - Method for aerodynamic particle size analysis

5984239 - November 16, 1999 - Weather modification by artificial satellite

6025402 - February 15, 2000 - Chemical composition for effectuating a reduction of visibility obscuration, and a detoxifixation of fumes and chemical fogs in spaces of fire origin

6030506 - February 29, 2000 - Preparation of independently generated highly reactive chemical species

6034073 - March 7, 2000 - Solvent detergent emulsions having antiviral activity

6045089 - April 4, 2000 - Solar-powered airplane

6056203 - May 2, 2000 - Method and apparatus for modifying supercooled clouds

6110590 - August 29, 2000 - Synthetically spun silk nanofibers and a process for making the same

6263744 - July 24, 2001 - Automated mobility-classified-aerosol detector

6281972 - August 28, 2001 - Method and apparatus for measuring particle-size distribution

6315213 - November 13, 2001 - Method of modifying weather

6382526 - May 7, 2002 - Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers

6408704 - June 25, 2002 - Aerodynamic particle size analysis method and apparatus

6412416 - July 2, 2002 - Propellant-based aerosol generation devices and method

6520425 - February 18, 2003 - Process and apparatus for the production of nanofibers

6539812 - April 1, 2003 - System for measuring the flow-rate of a gas by means of ultrasound

6553849 - April 29, 2003 - Electrodynamic particle size analyzer

6569393 - May 27, 2003 - Method and device for cleaning the atmosphere

This is pretty much the history of chemtrail patents in the United States. Once again, you can verify all of these patents online and read through them. If you are too lazy to do so, you can just read the title of these patents and get an idea of what's going on and what they're trying to do.


If you are a member of the United States Air Force there are specific courses on Chemtrails and the chemistry of Chemtrails. This is not a term created by paranoid-schizophrenics, it is a term coined by the US government. You can find the textbook for it here:

http://www.ecampus.com/book/9780201306866



The first breakthrough use of the term Chemtrails in official government circles has been in legislation HR 2977 "Space Preservation Act of 2001":

"(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
(C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space."

This legislation was later rewritten and reintroduced as HR 3616 "Space Preservation Act of 2002" on January 23, 2002. Interestingly enough, in this form of the bill, there was no trace of any terms like "chemtrail", "exotic weapons systems", etc.

This is the PDF for HR 2997:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/14606719/HR2977-Ban-on-space-based-weapons


This is the PDF for HR 3616:

http://armedservices.house.gov/comdocs/billsandreports/105thcongress/pdfs/hr3616ih.pdf



S. 517 [109th]: Weather Modification Research and Development Policy Authorization Act of 2005

*Note, here you will see the term "Cloud-Seeding" has replaced "Chemtrails"

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s109-517



"King Industries committed to sponsoring four chemicals as part of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency&#8217;s (EPA) High Production Volume (HPV) Challenge Program. These chemicals include diisononylnaphthalene (CAS No. 63512-64-1); dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid (CAS No. 25322-17-2); dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, calcium salt (CAS No. 57855-77-3); and dinonylnaphthalene sulfonic acid, barium salt (CAS No. 25619-56-1). As part of King Industries&#8217; commitment, Exponent has assembled available data and prepared a test plan to develop additional screening level data on human health effects, environmental fate and effects, and physicochemical properties for the dinonylnaphthalene category."

Source: http://www.epa.gov/HPV/pubs/summaries/dinapcat/c15766tp.pdf


[MARC Display

Chemtrails, chemistry 131 manual, fall 1990 [microform].
[Colorado Springs, Colo.] : Dept. of Chemistry, U.S. Air Force Academy, [1990] [1990]
# Subjects Chemistry -- Study and teaching -- United States -- Handbooks, manuals, etc.
Description:
1 v. (various pagings) : ill. ; 28 cm.
Notes:
Distributed to depository libraries in microfiche.
Shipping list no.: 92-1941-M.

NM State Library Federal Pub Fiche D 305.19:C 42 ]

Source: http://salsa.stlib.state.nm.us/ipac20/ipac.jsp?session=U2472Q018135A.32012&profile=nms&uri=search=TL~!Chemtrails,%20chemistry%20131%20manual,%20fall%201990&term=Chemtrails,%20chemistry%20131%20manual,%20fall%201990%20[microform].&aspect=subtab33&menu=search&source=~!marquis

[This microfiche is at the New Mexico State Library; though I have not seen the hardcopy, I have called the state Library and they do have it on microfiche. I linked the New Mexico State Library link because it was the fastest I found a link to the document. It is a Dept. of Chemistry and US Air Force Academy Course on chemistry of/and chemtrails.]




Here are just a few examples of chemtrails and weather modification today:

This is the weather modification rocket shells that the Chinese used during the 2008 Olympics to get rid of the rain clouds over Beijing:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-29-china-rain_x.htm


China did the same thing last year. They sprayed their skies and shot up shells to make it snow. They over-sprayed their skies and the massive snowfall closed down 12 major highways:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25081579-13762,00.html


Thailand's Agriculture and Cooperatives Ministry (ACM), as part of a yearly "rain" campaign, call upon the help of the Airforce to spray their skies for rain:
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/13525/jet-fighters-used-to-make-rain-not-war


This was one of the instances Obama mentioned "geo-engineering". There has been a sweeping media campaign to acclimate the public to this idea (Newsweek, Time, NY Times, etc.). Geo-Engineering is the cosmetic makeover for Chemtrails; basically, it is a PR campaign for acclimation.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D97ECHLG1&show_article=1


I won't go into the topic of Fluoride because it's such a well-known topic and just the slightest attempt at any objective research will lead you to the conclusion that Fluoride is not only unnecessary in drinking water but detrimental to human health.

Hope this helps some of you guys. It's not a lot of information but I realize it's difficult to find information on chemtrails for some of you, so I hope this helps.



Sure, it's easy to yell "conspiracy theory!" at any explanation of events that are out of the norm or not the status quo, and it is equally just as easy to blame the "big dogs" for every little thing that seems suspicious - but it is the most difficult to do thorough, objective research on topics to come to a viable conclusion.

 

[beardo]

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[Hayduke]

Poonjoon...I am sure you are not meaning to speak with a forked tongue...It's late but I am pretty sure you are disproving chemtrails with a nice explanation of what we "know" about them and their existence.

I tend to not believe the official schpeel...you know, magic bullets, WMD's etc.

Some claim that it is weather research...but who is doing this secret research...and why is it secret? I really do not think it is the University of sneaky shit...If it is the military...do you really believe they give a crap about the climate warming and the fuzzy animals trying to move North??? I seriously doubt it.

I observed whatever you want to call them 15 months ago in Modoc County, Ca during record heat 109 @ 4500 ft...it was 116 in Redding (foothills by lake Shasta and not in Modoc)...they were spraying like mad from before dawn all day back and forth from Travis AFB...I can only imagine how hot it would have been if the USAF had not been reflecting a portion of the suns rays. And although cloud seeding is nothing new...It never freaking rains when they are spraying!

The only reason to look at YouTube videos of chemtrails is to see that your skies look the same as they do all over the world, and it is often worse other places.

As for all those talking about chemtrails seriously lacking evidence...Although you did a nice run-down, only the USAF course and the Chem company with barium salts, have I not seen.
I am just not spoon feeding it to the guy who if I said white he would say you have no evidence so it must be black. Plus I am more apt to believe something I see with my own two eyes...born in the Show-Me-State.

My money would be on Weather modification being the official story that is being trickled out (cuz the spraying has been so blatant in the last 2 years) this sounds warm and fuzzy to the enviro types as well as the drill baby drill folks...but this is the official spin to cover the connection to HAARP...this would explain the secrecy, disinformation and involvement of the USAF.

 

[poonjoon]

reread my post please

 

[beardo]

reread my post please

nice post and links-I gave you rep for the post