White Widow Waterfarm. 1st Journal on the forums.

Megalith

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again, what are the PPM and PH now. what were they on the previous readings you took? when was the last res change? before you start guessing.
 

jimbizzzale67123

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fuck, i typed like a essay on my phone hit the wrong button and lost it all, so i tried again hit post reply and nothing crappy, ill post it when i get home.
 

legallyflying

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Couple things. Nurient lock out, especially micro is not just a function of ph. Excess concentrations of one may lock out another. Another big reason to change your Rez at least every ten days. I change mine everyweek. Some people don't change much at all bug then again some people don't brush their teeth either.

My nutrient schedule is printed on the back of the botanicare bottles. Lol. Seriously though, after following someone elses nite schedule from a grow thread and pretty much starving my plants almost to death, i just followed the label. I don't blindly follow the label though. I only run grow and calmag during veg with a shot of superthrive. I save the liquid karma, sensizyme, sugars, carbos (liquid light foliar and mollasses in Rez every other week) until the week before 12/12. My veg ppms are in the 600-900 range and
flower they range 1000-1700.

Nutrient change and rez scrub every saturday. Flush between veg/flower. I also run a course of hydrogen peroxide when starting or whenever adding new plants. I innoculate each plant site with myco m. (but not before h2o2 as that is just dumb).
That's it in a but shell. Organic nutes, biotics in the roots, fluvic acids and enzymes to keep the mycos happy. No bloom boosters or fancy multi mix stuff

Not trying to hijack your thread, he asked
 

jimbizzzale67123

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My Ph was at 5.6 this morning and I just checked it and it was at 5.9 so its good it is rising. I dont know my PPM I dont have a meter and cant get one till the next grow but I am feeding from what it says too on the back and it says that it is 900PPM so I assume the PPM is less than that because I cant get all of the freshwater out when I feed her with the nutrient solution, the solution must be dilluted a bit maybe like 750 or 800PPM.


Ok so I have no clue what a rez change is, is it just running clean nutrient free water for a couple of days if so I haven't done that yet. I also have florakleen should I be useing that when I flush I am so use to soil I didnt think I had to flush.

Here is how I have been feeding her, I have been following the directions on the back of the bottle and I make a 2gal solution and I feed her. As the water evaporates I add fresh water to make sure it stays at the 2gal mark. Then once I use 2gal of fresh water I drain as much water as I can out and I add a fresh nutrient solution and repeat the cycle. Should I be flushing at some point I had no clue about how to or how often.
 

Serapis

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Yes, a flush cycle is good to remove salts. I intend to do one with Drip Clean every other flush. My understanding with the waterfarm is that we empty it, add PH'd clean water and drip clean or florakleen and let that cycle for about 24 hours. Then we drain again and add fresh water and nutes. I plan on following a schedule like that every other flush, so maybe once in a plant's life time. For a simple flush, I'll drain, add PH'd water and drip clean, wait 24 and just add nutes, without swaping water out again.
 

jimbizzzale67123

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I have this stuff too I am just not using it because I was going for simplicity, I was terrified I would screw this hydro grow up and wanted to take it easy.

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I have FloraGrow, FloraBloom, and FloraMicro, I also have View attachment 1287383 Earth Juice Microblast.

Earth Juice Microblast is a proprietary liquid micronutrient formula to be used to prevent and correct micronutrient deficiencies. Contains Magnesium 0.50%; Boron 0.02%; Cobalt 0.0005%; Iron 0.10%; Manganese 0.05%; Molybdenum 0.0005%; and Zinc 0.05% in an organic base. Naturally buffered for assured plant absorption. May be watered in or used as a foliage spray. Use 2 tsp. Earth Juice Microblast / gallon of water.

Ingredients: Kelp meal, magnesium sulfate, borax, cobalt sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, sodium molybdate and zinc sulfate.
 

Serapis

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I'd go with a flush, if you haven't done one since the start. Use some Florakleen and nothing else. New water and nutes about 24-48 hours later.

Maybe go through Scotty's journal and look for any problems and how he handled it.
 

legallyflying

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When you need to top off, the guideline is add 1/2 strength nutes typically. If you wanted to avoid always having to top stuff off. You could always build a seperate Rez out of a 5 gallon bucket or a tuff tote and just plumb it in to your buckets with some grommets and 1/2 black tubing.

You don't neccessarily need to flush for two days, just empty the container pour some tap water through from the top, empty it, and then pour some floro clean mix through it, empty, and then put your nutes in. A GOOD ppm meter isn't really a luxury with hydro it's a nessasity.

Flush, add some micro nutes and I'm sure you will be fine. Tips curling under and getting burnt is the classic sign of over feeding. Watch the bottom leaves for this.
 

Megalith

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Couple things. Nurient lock out, especially micro is not just a function of ph. Excess concentrations of one may lock out another. Another big reason to change your Rez at least every ten days. I change mine everyweek. Some people don't change much at all bug then again some people don't brush their teeth either.

My nutrient schedule is printed on the back of the botanicare bottles. Lol. Seriously though, after following someone elses nite schedule from a grow thread and pretty much starving my plants almost to death, i just followed the label. I don't blindly follow the label though. I only run grow and calmag during veg with a shot of superthrive. I save the liquid karma, sensizyme, sugars, carbos (liquid light foliar and mollasses in Rez every other week) until the week before 12/12. My veg ppms are in the 600-900 range and
flower they range 1000-1700.

Nutrient change and rez scrub every saturday. Flush between veg/flower. I also run a course of hydrogen peroxide when starting or whenever adding new plants. I innoculate each plant site with myco m. (but not before h2o2 as that is just dumb).
That's it in a but shell. Organic nutes, biotics in the roots, fluvic acids and enzymes to keep the mycos happy. No bloom boosters or fancy multi mix stuff

Not trying to hijack your thread, he asked
I wanted to know how many times a day do you flood and when? I read your thread. You said you changed interval in the beginning but didn't say how often or when.
 

Megalith

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Do you guys think I should use some of the FloraGrow or just stay the course? Bush stayed the course and it didn't work out well.
lol. this is your grow. Plus Bush is , was, and always will be an idiot.

I would hit it with a little bit of that Eart juice. Dont go crazy with it. There is a deficency.
 

Serapis

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Screw Fox News....

Let's grow a plant! :)

I had a seed in a rapid rooter and the tap root emerged from the top and grew to about an inch. (I had the rooter covered with a solo cup for darkness). Maybe in soil it would have corrected itself, but in the rooter, it appeared 'confused'. I decided to take it out and place it in my other Waterfarm as a back up measure, to see if it would take. I thought about planting it in a seed mix, but decided to see how Scotty's method works. In less than 24 hours, the cotelydon is emerging from the embryo placenta and husk. I have a very close shot of it here...

I'm surprised it's going to make it.

If you see the green on the hydroton, good eye. I ran the unit 2 weeks straight with just water and drip clean. I noticed an algae forming 2 days ago and sprayed it with 35% h2o2 and added 7 drops of an algae killer for aquariums and plants. The algae is going away. I now have it covered with foil so it is not receiving light.
 

legallyflying

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+ rep for all those that shit on fox news

My flood schedule was 7 minute flood with 1 1/2 hour interval. Now I'm on a deep 10 minute flood and 3 hour interval. There is a shit load of roots in the table and the prevent allot of nutes from draining hence the longer interval. Pumped up the nutes to 1800 noticed some tip curl on the lowers so immediately diluted to 1500.

Happy thanksgiving
 

jimbizzzale67123

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Update: 1st week of flower

So I flushed and reefed her last night I gave her some micro nutrients also she looks very happy, She seems to be filling in the screen very fast I accidentally snapped a small branch just a bit so I taped her up and she should do fine. I have never abused a plant so much I still have to get a pic of the gash that was left from when I dropped the screen on her.

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jimbizzzale67123

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Here is a picture of where the plant bent way to much by accidentally dropping the screen on her when I was attaching it, and it left a gash. It hasn't affected the growth at all I added the fans that I had they are doing a good job for now well see if they hold up when the plant is bigger. You can also see the tape I had to attach to the branch I snapped recently I will remove the tape in a couple of weeks and see if she is all healed up.

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