House Renting

legaltoker

legaltoker

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guy incognito said:
I don't think the plants count as an active partner.

it was a joke.........maybe a bad one:sad:


anyways....... the phychic is a good idea but it would suck to have to fake being one of those crazy people phychics to your nieghbors and stuff, i would eventually crack up laughing from all the b/s i was spilling.....but it is a good idea.
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Timmy22

Timmy22

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You can gauge what kind of landlord they will be from the way they talk to you. I would look for someone who seems easy going and laid back. Some are kind of uptight and check the property alot to protect their investment. In my state they have to give you a 24hr notice before coming by and checking up on anything. Just make sure you rent from someone laid back and make sure the neighbors seem ok and not too nosey b/c if your landlord ever suspects what you are doing most likely it will be from a call from the neighbor. Learned that the hard way several yrs ago...
 
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NoDrama

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Cash is unreportable as you receive it, so the IRS will have no clue you have it and cannot make a case if they don't even know a crime is happening. When you get a money order at the local corner store they don't ask for ID so as far as anyone is concerned as long as you aren't trying to deposit cash in a bank account there is no record of the money. No record, no IRS.
 
Timmy22

Timmy22

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In order for them to rent to you in the first place your gonna have to show some sort of income to the potential landlord. After your in it doesnt matter to them as long as they get their rent.
 
RoffleWaffels

RoffleWaffels

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legaltoker said:
the way i see it, it kinda makes sense, you just didnt have it all the way lol
co-op= you and your plant
tri-op= you, a partner and your plants
he would be a quad-op, him, 2 partners and the plants..... quad-op sounds like way to many op's to me, LOL.

(sorry im medicated :bigjoint:)


on a serious note, partners especially ''business partners'' are usually the weak link in a (possible illegal) situation like this, you are pretty much putting your life and well being in the hands of those you ''business partner' with'..... and make no mistake, no matter how good of friends you are, once money and business are envolved, your relationships will change. One of you is gonna have to assume the dominant roll and sooner or later one of you isnt gonna agree with it.....Greed is a terrible thing........

.....also with two other people, you triple the odds of one of you doing something stupid/ignorant/ or just plain accidental to get caught, then its......."which one of you is gonna squel for a deal game''......
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Hahah, stay medicated all day :)
Yah, we're good friends and all.. The whole thing kind of worries me because I really don't want the evil business man inside of us to emerge victorious. Cross my fingers, lol. I'm just hoping we'll keep eachother in check.

I and one other has a job. He's full time, I'm part time and a full time student. Thanks everyone for all the input, it's what I was hoping to see and a lot more! As far as fronts go, I ebay from home, duuuh :) Hahah, I was actually considering starting a lawn maintenance business sometime in the spring once things started going. Figure I could buy a couple mowers, maybe even a powerwasher, and I have myself a nice little business? Who knows, I'll definetly start a thread on the whole ordeal once the time comes around. We're about three weeks into flowering with our current op, it's been a crazy learning experience. Really... I read for hoursss and hourss on this site, and combined with what I've learned from this grow, jeez. I have so much more respect for all you guys. I made the joke that growing something should be in a parenting class... The amount of care you have to give and providing enough attention to notice little things going wrong is crazy, it builds character! :P

Thanks again guys, and if you're interested, keep an eye out for a thread starting sometime soon with the current op.
 
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$Mike$

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Just make sure your partners are on the same page. May I ask who is the brains of this garden? What eachothers job is going to be.
 
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nl3004.kind

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the conventional wisdom is that adding a partner makes the job easier and two partners makes it easier still...

the conventional wisdom is wrong: adding one partner makes it twice as hard to get the work done properly, and adding two makes it 10 times harder...

if you can get them to front the money and not be associated with the day to day, go for it...

you are going to have hard enough of a time to get one or the other of them to behave in a non-suspicious manner so as to not get you pinched...

how long is it going to work out if one gets drunk/ stoned and wants bragging rights? gets a girlfriend who "deserves" to know everything? who spends more money than they have because they "know" that they are going to get paid in a couple of months (those are *long* months bro, don't count on the money until you have it in your hands)... or someone gets bent because they don't know the difference between retail (the way you buy weed) and wholesale (the way you will be selling it all in one big chunk all at once so as to reduce your own exposure)? or who insists on pinching "just a little"? partners are nightmares usually, and problems always... if you aren't fighting about what you were supposed to do and when, it will be because of something else equally stupid... trust me, just go it alone or with silent partners, give them money at the end, and leave the growing to the grown-ups...

you'll thank me in the long run... it isn't that having friends is a bad thing, just that there tons of folks who wanna smoke with you and chill, play your xbox and take credit, but the work is work, and most folks can't handle that...
 
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NoDrama

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nl3004.kind said:
the conventional wisdom is that adding a partner makes the job easier and two partners makes it easier still...

the conventional wisdom is wrong: adding one partner makes it twice as hard to get the work done properly, and adding two makes it 10 times harder...

if you can get them to front the money and not be associated with the day to day, go for it...

you are going to have hard enough of a time to get one or the other of them to behave in a non-suspicious manner so as to not get you pinched...

how long is it going to work out if one gets drunk/ stoned and wants bragging rights? gets a girlfriend who "deserves" to know everything? who spends more money than they have because they "know" that they are going to get paid in a couple of months (those are *long* months bro, don't count on the money until you have it in your hands)... or someone gets bent because they don't know the difference between retail (the way you buy weed) and wholesale (the way you will be selling it all in one big chunk all at once so as to reduce your own exposure)? or who insists on pinching "just a little"? partners are nightmares usually, and problems always... if you aren't fighting about what you were supposed to do and when, it will be because of something else equally stupid... trust me, just go it alone or with silent partners, give them money at the end, and leave the growing to the grown-ups...

you'll thank me in the long run... it isn't that having friends is a bad thing, just that there tons of folks who wanna smoke with you and chill, play your xbox and take credit, but the work is work, and most folks can't handle that...
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great advice, +rep
 
BONGRIPPER#1

BONGRIPPER#1

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RoffleWaffels said:
With things going the way they are, myself and two others are going to be renting a house sometime soon and there's just a few things that kinda worry me. The payments for utilities and the rent would be paid with money that we're getting from a current grow op. I've never really rented a house before, so I don't know what all is looked at. Should I worry about anything? It would appear to be that three people are chipping in for the monthly rent, so would there be any sort of suspicion?
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there are a few things to consider. does everyone have a cover job? youll need them (even thought they suck to explain why the rents getting paid). make sure that the grow to be area is away from all service boxes including the main power, sewer acces and electrical boxes, and meters. you do not want the hvac guy or the plumber or electrician knowing whats up. not lastly but a good one, make sure you are exhausting properly. it would suck to find out your ladies can be smelled from outside your kitchen,just when they are getting pretty. if you got that covered you should be safe.
 
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spandy

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NoDrama said:
Exactly, there are 3 people in on this grow op, so your original idea to remove 1 person actually leaves 2 people left.
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Again, no. I said "if you commit a crime and two people know about it, thats one person too many." Its an old saying, and never did I imply I was referring to him and his 2 friends, I simply made the comment so the OP could apply it to himself as they saw fit.

Shove words in your own mouth, stay away from mine :)
 
RC7

RC7

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spandy said:
Again, no. I said "if you commit a crime and two people know about it, thats one person too many." Its an old saying, and never did I imply I was referring to him and his 2 friends, I simply made the comment so the OP could apply it to himself as they saw fit.

Shove words in your own mouth, stay away from mine :)
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You said "If you commit a crime" that already infers that you know about. That sounds pretty idiotic to phrase it as 2 people know, if one of them is yourself. Talking about yourself in 3rd person really doesn't make sense when obviously you have to know whether you commit a crime or not. That phrase only would make sense meaning 2 OTHER people know
 
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nl3004.kind

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RC7 said:
You said "If you commit a crime" that already infers that you know about. That sounds pretty idiotic to phrase it as 2 people know, if one of them is yourself. Talking about yourself in 3rd person really doesn't make sense when obviously you have to know whether you commit a crime or not. That phrase only would make sense meaning 2 OTHER people know
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unfortunately i must disagree with you...

the point of the saying is that in the end there is truly no one whom you can trust with the knowledge of your situation except yourself...

there are a variety of sayings which all mean the same thing...

another which is perhaps more illustrative is the one which says "two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead"...

now by no means am i advocating killing your partners, but the truth of the matter is that in an ongoing criminal (allegedly) conspiracy the *only* manner in which one is truly safe (with the exception of random chance or dumb luck) is telling absolutely no one!

not your "best friend" not your rabbi imam or preacher, not your momma or uncle or "brother from another mother" absolutely no one, not ever not for any reason...

DON'T TELL A SOUL, and maybe, just maybe you make it out ok...

there are approximately 60000 americans in jail right now for what you are doing, or planning on doing, or have done already and each of them thought that they could trust someone...

at the beginning everyone is one love, brothers forever, gonna work hard and play hard and share equally...

in the end, it is just you and a cop of some stripe sweating you down...

and if you don't break, that doesn't mean that someone else won't...

usually it is a race to see who sells out everyone else first (cause that's the guy who gets the best deal)...

you can say what you will about never breaking, but when you are looking down the barrel of a mandatory minimum sentence, someone ALWAYS BREAKS... no exceptions...

so if you're gonna go ahead and break the law, plan on never ever getting caught *or* not having partners...

cause you're planning to fail as it stands now...

trust me, i'm a doctor...
 
RC7

RC7

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^ I think you completely misunderstood what i said lol. i was just stating that the phrase is dumb the way it is said because it makes it sound like having 1 partner is ok. I completely agree with what you said, i feel the same way.
 
RC7

RC7

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NoDrama said:
Exactly, there are 3 people in on this grow op, so your original idea to remove 1 person actually leaves 2 people left.
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I was agreeing with Nodrama, i don't find that to be a good saying because if 2 people know then it's 2 people too many.
 
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spandy

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If two OTHER people know about it, then technically 3 people know about it. Just because something is implied, doesn't mean you don't count each person as a person being in the know.

Speaking in the 3rd person about yourself may not be traditional, but it's still an acceptable format for conversation, even if the person you are speaking to isn't able to compute. It's kinda like math, just because you dont understand it doesn't mean it isn't true. :)
 
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