White Widow Waterfarm. 1st Journal on the forums.

hey jim looking good, i am no pro either but i would definately error on the side of caution. I would drain the rez run a day of ph correct water then tomorrow try a rez at 1200 maybe. Everything i have read says if ppm goes up it wants more water than nutes and you dont want to hurt your roots at this stage in the game. I myself am taking baby steps with nutes yesterday gave fresh rez at 800 ppm and today was at 330 so i will be comfortable to put mine at 1000 next time and see how they like it. You are further along but nutes are pricey water is cheap if the plant dont want it why give it.
 
T.M.B said:
hey jim looking good, i am no pro either but i would definately error on the side of caution. I would drain the rez run a day of ph correct water then tomorrow try a rez at 1200 maybe. Everything i have read says if ppm goes up it wants more water than nutes and you dont want to hurt your roots at this stage in the game. I myself am taking baby steps with nutes yesterday gave fresh rez at 800 ppm and today was at 330 so i will be comfortable to put mine at 1000 next time and see how they like it. You are further along but nutes are pricey water is cheap if the plant dont want it why give it.
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That is a single plant covering that entire screen. The plant drinks nearly a gallon a day. It is doing well at 1500 ppm, with maybe small traces of nute burns. The plant will actually tell you what it needs without you having to guess. All you have to do is read back a bit on this thread for a full understanding of our ppm discussion. Rather than make guesses, do unnecessary flushes, etc., we closely watch our plant and our ppm/PH. If the PH moves much overnight, we know we need to adjust our ppms up or down. It isn't rocket science, and I would hardly have a full grown adult plant at 800 ppms. You are only stunting it and constantly adjusting ppm and ph...
 
serepis you are crazy read scottys journal again my friend,and i can tell you my plants are not close to being stunted at 36 days from seed they are huge my 4 by 6 foot screen is almost filled and i have not switched to 12/12 yet i have no yellow tips nothing but health and i heard you say how big your farm plants are at age and mine are over double your size at same age so lol at your advice.I have even looked at your grows not impressed and you wonder why people call you a idiot it fits.
 
T.M.B said:
serepis you are crazy read scottys journal again my friend,and i can tell you my plants are not close to being stunted at 36 days from seed they are huge my 4 by 6 foot screen is almost filled and i have not switched to 12/12 yet i have no yellow tips nothing but health and i heard you say how big your farm plants are at age and mine are over double your size at same age so lol at your advice.I have even looked at your grows not impressed and you wonder why people call you a idiot it fits.
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I know 1500 might seem high, but there are people that go into 1800, and I think the raising PPM is due to the amount of water and the rate she is drinking. I feel its a very large plant for the 2 gallon bucket it is in. I think 1500 is more on the side of caution, I was at one point reaching 1700 last week so since then I have slowed it down and no negative effects have aroused. But the PPM is also strain specific remember some strains are hungrier then others and this strain is not fucking around.

I wish I had the ability to experiment I would love to see how far I can push this plant but I am not going to take any risks.

I feed right at 1500, and then top of with plain water so she is always staying right around 1200-1500.
 
SmokeyDaBear84 said:
Wow! Your grow is Great. Thats my next design. I have a 2 x 3 tent with a 400hps cooltube. One plant is all you need. right on!
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Yes it is all you need, I might do two next time because I had a few small gapes I could have filled in and I will have two strains instead of one. Also I will be able to veg for just 3 or 2.5 weeks instead of the 4 I did this time around.
 
T.M.B said:
serepis you are crazy read scottys journal again my friend,and i can tell you my plants are not close to being stunted at 36 days from seed they are huge my 4 by 6 foot screen is almost filled and i have not switched to 12/12 yet i have no yellow tips nothing but health and i heard you say how big your farm plants are at age and mine are over double your size at same age so lol at your advice.I have even looked at your grows not impressed and you wonder why people call you a idiot it fits.
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I had written 3-4 responses to the above quoted thread and I couldn't come up with anything nice to say. I will therefore let the TMB noob get away with calling me an idiot. He'll claim he didn't, everybody else did. But since no one else is, he may have well just have been a man and said it. If TMB wants to hide behind 'others' calling me an idiot, so be it. Out of respect to Jimbo, this response was edited numerous times to prevent this from becoming a name calling match.
 
T.M.B said:
serepis you are crazy read scottys journal again my friend,and i can tell you my plants are not close to being stunted at 36 days from seed they are huge my 4 by 6 foot screen is almost filled and i have not switched to 12/12 yet i have no yellow tips nothing but health and i heard you say how big your farm plants are at age and mine are over double your size at same age so lol at your advice.I have even looked at your grows not impressed and you wonder why people call you a idiot it fits.
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Pictures please? I'd love to see your 4' x 6' screen 'filled' after only 36 days from seed.
 
T.M.B said:
please dont take me wrong Jim not knocking your grow or calling you greedy. I was just thinking of my own grow and i have a 4ft. by 6ft. screen and i dont think i want to try and fill every spot. Even though ceiling height should not be an issue cause i have around 5ft. above my screen to work with,I am useing the 2 400w cmhs on light hangers i also made mylar panels hanging on chains that are very easy to adjust. I am so glad i read scottys journal before i built my rooms i love these waterfarms and the 1 nute method my plants are as healthy as can be, it is hard to believe they are only 29 days old today from a 1/4 inch root they hit the top of my screen today which is 13.5 inches above the farms. To think i was almost gonna play in dirt like years ago,again your grow looks great.
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Wow, according to this post, at 29 days you were just reaching the screen, and yet 7 days later you have completely filled the screen.... Amazing.....

The only thing that will save you from looking like a complete liar and blowhard now would be pictures, which you have yet to post a single one.
 
sorry jim but yes serrepis thats what i am saying when i hit the top of my screen and started pulling branches through 7 days ago each plant had around 8 tops sticking out, now twice a day i can go down and rearange branches and it has been multiplying faster than i could have ever hoped for, and i said i was not going to try and fill every hole. also from what i can see on this website is you getting on peoples nerves constantly and you do seem like a creep no doubt sorry it wasnt idiot, it was dousche. I will not respond to you anymore on jims thread.
 
T.M.B said:
sorry jim but yes serrepis thats what i am saying when i hit the top of my screen and started pulling branches through 7 days ago each plant had around 8 tops sticking out, now twice a day i can go down and rearange branches and it has been multiplying faster than i could have ever hoped for, and i said i was not going to try and fill every hole. also from what i can see on this website is you getting on peoples nerves constantly and you do seem like a creep no doubt sorry it wasnt idiot, it was dousche. I will not respond to you anymore on jims thread.
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Yeah, I have over 1000+ +REP points for being a douche, lol.... whatever dude... You must think highly of yourself and your 33 whole posts. You act like you know whats going on in the RIU forums yet, you have participated in what, 4 whole threads? You are nothing but a trouble maker with a mouth. It's a shame you apparently are unwilling to post pictures to back up your trash talk and name calling. This thread is about a waterfarm grow. The reason my 30+ day old plant is only 7-9" is because I'm patiently awaiting room in my 600 watt tent. The farm is currently under 6500k florescents, as I have already stated, while yours is under 2 400 watt lights. I'd expect your plant to be bigger, professor dim bulb. But once my plant is under the 600 watter and growing like there is no tomorrow, I'll up my nutes to 1500 ppm to achieve max growth rate. That is after all why I'm growing hydro... If TMB had the intelligence to know what he was spewing off about, he wouldn't be trying to compare our plants....

We were discussing ppms and PH before you butted in with your name calling and holier than thou advice. Stick with your 800 ppm... at least you'll be safe... lol.... Why not just go back to soil? Don't bother answering if all you are going to do is toss more names my way. I'm looking for intelligent conversation here, we aren't running a day care operation....

The poster, Jim, has already explained why he is running 1500 ppm. I support his assessment and reasoning. I'm terribly sorry that you do not....
 
what a joke we are all trying to copy i mans grow and thats scottyballs right, in my opinion he has done all the homework for us and i owe him all the credit to my plants success. As for my 800 i am right about were scotty was at the same time. As well scotty recomended a flush every 2 weeks and its not nutes its a healthy root system i would think the almighty serepis would know that so fu jackass and your useless post.
 
T.M.B said:
what a joke we are all trying to copy i mans grow and thats scottyballs right, in my opinion he has done all the homework for us and i owe him all the credit to my plants success. As for my 800 i am right about were scotty was at the same time. As well scotty recomended a flush every 2 weeks and its not nutes its a healthy root system i would think the almighty serepis would know that so fu jackass and your useless post.
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ROFL :)

almighty? hardly.... lol

Look, this thread ain't about you or your grow. We were discussing Jim's PPMs and PH, compared to where his grow is at, not yours.

Again with the name calling? Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Lovely pics TMB.... absolutely lovely... :roll:
 
wow i leave for a week or so and man it got crazy in here well to lighten thing id like to FIRST say Jim your grow looks amazing (again) lol. wish i would have changed out the air pump sooner. here a couple pics where mines at right now now where near urs but im happy with it. oh and the little obe was some growth that fbroke off awhile back and i just stuck it in some soilDSC03979.JPGDSC03983.JPGDSC03948.JPGDSC03977.JPGDSC03973.JPG
 
T.M.B said:
what a joke we are all trying to copy i mans grow and thats scottyballs right, in my opinion he has done all the homework for us and i owe him all the credit to my plants success. As for my 800 i am right about were scotty was at the same time. As well scotty recomended a flush every 2 weeks and its not nutes its a healthy root system i would think the almighty serepis would know that so fu jackass and your useless post.
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No offense to scotty, but no one has done all the research. You can never do enough research Scottys method is more of a cheap, and simple with great results kind of thing. You should always be doing more research and expanding ideas, although scottys method is dope as hell.
 
ya its dope. i always heard to take a full cutting so many inches long and remove All lower stems use root gel and put in dome shittttttttt imagime the beginning of growth and when ud normally cut off to top a plant well thats want got pulled off and just stuck in dirt NOT EVEN immediately and viola! maybe half an inch in dirt and half an inch out of dirt, lol
 
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