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hyroot

hyroot

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Brick Top said:
Along with four family members, all of which have degrees in horticulture, I own a pot-in-pot that covers roughly 17 acres of land. On top of that, as I previously stated, I have grown since 1972, 39 years, knocking on the door of four decades of growing. I am rather confident that I know what I am talking about and equally confident that you do not know the slightest thing about plants.

Definitions of deficiency on the Web:


  • lack: the state of needing something that is absent or unavailable; "there is a serious lack of insight into the problem"; "water is the critical deficiency in desert regions"; "for want of a nail the shoe was lost"
  • insufficiency: lack of an adequate quantity or number; "the inadequacy of unemployment benefits"
    wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn


No matter what you want and need to believe, the definition above is not the same as having an overabundance, which is what causes nutrient burn.
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im 32 and been at since i was a teen. you flower and get burns from water thats lack of phosphorus. its that simple i don'yt undestand why no one gets that. also the genetics 20 years ago are no wher near what they are now. and plants do way different things than they did back then . so prehistoric knowledge is irrelavent
 
rastadred22

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actually i was referring to ur many posts saying that yellowing plants are P def. which is not true at all! infact u even said that it was normal in the first few weeks of flower...which is also wrong as no def. pplant is normal! and i think u need to do more research....

Phosphorus (P)Old leavesPlants feel strangely brittle; leaves turn dark green, later reddish to bronze.
Calcium (Ca)Young leavesGrowth is stunted; young leaves turn yellow, older leaves remain dark green; upper stems buckle and snap.

and this def. right here my friend is what u are mistaking ur p def. as!
Nitrogen (N)Old leavesGrowth is stunned, plants are bright green, leaf tips turn brown.

not enough proof heres the site.........http://www.blooms4all.com/TOPICpgs/nutrient_deficiencies_in_plants.htm
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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hyroot said:
genius n deficiency happens during veg. p deficiency happens during flower. dude is 7 weeks into flower i was a lil over 3 weeks into flower when it happened to me. how can you have a nitrogen dficiency when you don't use it during flower. read a book. you just reiterate what someone else said
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There are 13 essential elements plants need and there can be a deficiency in any one or any number of them at any stage of growth of a plant.

Cannabis plants require nitrogen while in the flowering stage of growth. They just require less of it while in the flowering stage of growth than when in the vegetative stage of growth.
 
rastadred22

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hyroot said:
im 32 and been at since i was a teen. you flower and get burns from water thats lack of phosphorus. its that simple i don'yt undestand why no one gets that. also the genetics 20 years ago are no wher near what they are now. and plants do way different things than they did back then . so prehistoric knowledge is irrelavent
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sooooooo how the fuck u have nute burn without feeding nutes? damn man this shit is gettin aggricating now like come on man get a clue u have internet just use it and stop being soooo ignorant!!!!!!!
 
riddleme

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hyroot said:
im 32 and been at since i was a teen. you flower and get burns from water thats lack of phosphorus. its that simple i don'yt undestand why no one gets that. also the genetics 20 years ago are no wher near what they are now. and plants do way different things than they did back then . so prehistoric knowledge is irrelavent
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will it burn me too, I mean if I drink it? cause I'm pretty sure my water does not have any phosphorus in it
 
zazahzle

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hyroot,,!!! dude, you're like a blind man trying to watch a porno. you can't be that stupid.. thank you for the laughs though!!!:clap:
 
hyroot

hyroot

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you are slow. nit def happens during veg. you cant have n def during flower if you don't have it. you use way more p in flower than veg. when there is a lack of p it yellows and browns. that happens during flower. if that happened during veg it would be an n def.. again you reiterating some random site. do you know what nitrogen is for . its for leaf and stalk growth. when you flower . you cut the n level and increase the p and k. once your plant is used the pk and for some reason it doesn't get enough op it yellows and browns. that's a fact and you still never looked up phosphate def.. or you would have admitted that you were wrong. if i was wrong i would admit but i know i'm not i have scientific fact on my side
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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are u that retarded that u cant see that site is clearly me lookin up p def. but yet u still deny it? i mean come one man ur not onyl telling tons of ppl there wrong on this site ur telling ppl that study this shit and have scientific proof that their wrong....i think u need to rethink all this man....but bac to the subject in hand...how are u burning ur plants without adding nutes? can u explain that to me and notice i didnt so call twist ur words lofll...how can u burn a plant thats being fed plain water?
 
riddleme

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ok here ya go please tell us which link proves your point???


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hyroot

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rastadred22 said:
lofl apparently plain water also has enough NPK in it to burn ur plants!

Z man thats some funni shit
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you are so stupid. again once a plant is used to having phospate. it doesnt get it its the lack of. wow im done good luck fucking up your garden im done talking to wall
 
rastadred22

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Phosphorus (P) deficiency is a plant disorder that is most common in areas of high rainfall, especially on acid, clay or poor chalk soils. Cold weather can cause a temporary deficiency.
All plants may be affected, although this is an uncommon disorder. Particularly susceptible are carrots, lettuce, spinach, apples, currants and gooseberries. Symptoms include poor growth, and leaves that turn blue/green but not yellow&#8212;oldest leaves are affected first.

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hyroot

hyroot

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rastadred22 said:
Lack of phosphates in the soil can lead to poor growth, and leaves that turn a dull green with purple or yellow tints. Sometimes leaf margins may become slightly scorched. Although phosphate deficiency is fairly rare, it is most likely to occur on clay soils, and in areas where there is a particularly high rainfall.

http://www.intergardening.co.uk/pests/disorders/nutrient-deficiencies/phosphate.html
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that proved my point leafs can becom slightly scorched. scorched is burned thank you.
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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in the leaf margins! not the tips! and what about the 2nd definition and the one riddleme posted? still think ur right?
 
rastadred22

rastadred22

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this post proves y u are mistaken!

Symptoms of Deficiency In Essential Minerals

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Visual nutrient deficiency symptoms can be a very powerful diagnostic tool for evaluating the nutrient status of plants. One should keep in mind, however, that a given individual visual symptom is seldom sufficient to make a definitive diagnosis of a plant&#8217;s nutrient status. Many of the classic deficiency symptoms such as tip burn, chlorosis and necrosis are characteristically associated with more than one mineral deficiency and also with other stresses that by themselves are not diagnostic for any specific nutrient stress. However, their detection is extremely useful in making an evaluation of nutrient status. In addition to the actual observations of morphological and spectral symptoms, knowing the location and timing of these symptoms is a critical aspect of any nutrient status evaluation. Plants do not grow in isolation, they are part of the overall environment and as such they respond to environmental changes as that affect nutrient availability. Also, plants do influence their environment and can contribute to environmental changes, which in turn can affect the nutrient status of the plant.

http://4e.plantphys.net/article.php?ch=3&id=289
 
Brick Top

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hyroot said:
im 32 and been at since i was a teen. you flower and get burns from water thats lack of phosphorus. its that simple i don'yt undestand why no one gets that. also the genetics 20 years ago are no wher near what they are now. and plants do way different things than they did back then . so prehistoric knowledge is irrelavent
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With each message you post you only provide more proof that you do not have a clue what you are talking about. For one you are evidently one of the MANY who inaccurately believe that cannabis is more potent now than in the past. If you, and the others like you, knew how the testing procedure for testing THC was changed you would know better.

You also clearly do not understand that no matter what the genetic mix a strain is there are still 13 essential elements that plants need. Not every single one of them needs each element in the exact same amount, but they all need all 13 of them and not only some of them during different stages of growth. They still require them all, some are just needed in greater or lesser amounts at different stages of growth.

When it comes to facts, they do not have an expiration date on them. Facts that were scientifically proven decades and longer before you were nothing more than a gleam in the eye of two strangers at Fleetwood Mac concert are still every bit as valid as they were the day they were scientifically proven to be true.


Gang ... we have another tafbang on our hands. We either need to just ignore him and let him spew all the inane nonsense he wants to or we can argue with him a while longer and see the thread closed.

Take your pick ... but me .... I am not going to waste any more time on the latest "Rain Man" who thinks he's Jorge fucking Cervantes or something.
 
hyroot

hyroot

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Brick Top said:
With each message you post you only provide more proof that you do not have a clue what you are talking about. For one you are evidently one of the MANY who inaccurately believe that cannabis is more potent now than in the past. If you, and the others like you, knew how the testing procedure for testing THC was changed you would know better.

You also clearly do not understand that no matter what the genetic mix a strain is there are still 13 essential elements that plants need. Not every single one of them needs each element in the exact same amount, but they all need all 13 of them and not only some of them during different stages of growth. They still require them all, some are just needed in greater or lesser amounts at different stages of growth.

When it comes to facts, they do not have an expiration date on them. Facts that were scientifically proven decades and longer before you were nothing more than a gleam in the eye of two strangers at Fleetwood Mac concert are still every bit as valid as they were the day they were scientifically proven to be true.


Gang ... we have another tafbang on our hands. We either need to just ignore him and let him spew all the inane nonsense he wants to or we can argue with him a while longer and see the thread closed.

Take your pick ... but me .... I am not going to waste any more time on the latest "Rain Man" who thinks he's Jorge fucking Cervantes or something.
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genius its niot the thc content, that they test iot s the thc to cbd ratio. and rastadred just proved me right. afyter all this you cant stand that i was right . get a clue and fuck off i dont care. at least i kow what im doing. go fuck your shit up for all i care
 
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