While I think that since the topic of the thread has changed from dr greenthumbs g13 fake genetics please read, to Iranian auto and if the only way for a strain to have any auto tendencies is through crossing it with Ruderalis that, again, this thread should be left to die and a new thread on Non-traditional auto-flowering strains and causes them to be non-traditional auto-flowering strains should be started.
But just to make one comment ... people seem to believe that if there is any Ruderalis in Iranian Auto, or any of the indica strains mentioned that allegedly were also what might be called slow-autos or delayed-autos would have to have been the result of intentional crosses made by modern breeders, but has anyone considered the possibility of Mother Nature having at some point having gotten involved?
Certain strains are claimed to have remained pure due to geographic isolation. The ranges of others were close and would at times bump up against each other and there was crossing of genetics in nature.
As much as most people believe places like Afghanistan and Pakistan were always home to indica strains, what has been found in some of the oldest archeological digs in Afghanistan and Pakistan is evidence that sativa strains were the first species/strains there and that over time indicas from China moved Westward and natural crosses were made and due to factors of climate and conditions over many years indicas became the predominant type of cannabis found there.
If what has been found in the archeological digs has accurately been pieced together wouldn't it be possible that at some point in time, hundreds or maybe even a thousand or more years back ruderalis strains bumped up against some indica strains but it was the indica that remained predominant and the range/area of ruderalis receded, but left genetic traces behind and that since with the region being all indica again, through natural breeding the ruderalic genetics have been driven deep, possibly for the sake of using simple language, been highly watered down, and their influence remains but only slightly and at some point what was believed to be 100% pure indicas ended up in the hands of modern day breeders but deep in the gene pool is actually small amounts of ruderalis genetics.
Has anyone considered that such a genetic mix might possibly explain a strain like Iranian Auto? That there is just enough ruderalis in it, due to natural crossing that might have happened hundreds of years ago, or a thousand years or farther back, but enough auto-flowering genetics remain that it will auto-flower, but in a way that is different from modern day auto-flowering strains, that it does it at a much slower pace, that it's auto-flowering is delayed due to more indica genetics watering down the ruderalis genetics in it?
Has anyone thought of the possibility of a natural crossing occurring in the distant past, very long before modern man ever thought to make crosses, and what we see today is the results of that?
Not counting hybrids the three species of cannabis, as are accepted by most, are sativa, indica and ruderalis. Some cannabis researchers believe another, they call rasta, exists and others laugh at the thought of it. Some cannabis researchers firmly believe that ruderalis is not in the actual cannabis family but instead a part of the hemp family, as in industrial hemp. So there is not unanimity of acceptance of either ruderalis being true cannabis or rasta even existing.
But isn't is possible that science might to date have missed what might be a very small subspecies that would be an intermediate species, something that is almost totally indica but with a very small amount of ruderalis deep within it? That could explain a strain that appears to be, and is believed to be, pure indica but that has some slight ruderalis tendencies, the tendency, the ability to auto-flower, but just at a much slower pace than what we today know about and are used to and that are fairly recent crosses and that could be extremely different in how they auto-flower than say a natural cross made many, many, many years ago.
It is only a possibility to consider and not something I necessarily believe to be a fact, but could believe is possible enough to explain the slow/delayed auto-flowering of Iranian Auto and the other claimed to be pure indica strains that were claimed to have similar tendencies for slow or delayed auto-flowering.
People just cannot logically discount the part nature has to have played in the creation of crosses that possibly a thousand or more years later man declared to be pure, something that evolved and remained in the exact same form. There have been numerous natural climate changes where due to climatic conditions one species or strain may have encroached on or totally took over the range/area/territory of another species or strain. Continents have shifted changing location and causing climatic changes and in some cases possibly bringing them close enough to another were there could be a natural spreading of genetics.
Recently a very thin very worn out pelican showed up in N.C. and it was determined that it was caught in one of the hurricanes this summer that did not make landfall and was swept thousands of miles across the Atlantic to some other country and then managed to make it's way home. How many times since cannabis has existed might birds with bellies full of cannabis seeds been caught up in storms or a jet stream and carried far beyond their normal range and deposited seeds in an area with a totally different species or strain of cannabis and by doing so crosses were made?
By the time man reached a point where true accurate scientific studies of cannabis could be undertaken a fair bit of what they found and believed to be totally pure might have actually be hybrids created by Mother Nature a hundred years, a thousand years or thousands of years in the past and undetectable to modern science because it had formed it's scale or yardstick of what 'pure' was by what it believed had to be pure. By the time modern man began to research cannabis it is possible that there were no truly pure strains left in existence, as in being genetically the exact same as they evolved, not counting of course any possible natural evolutionary genetic changes that might possibly have occurred.
While possibly not of high probability it is still a possibility that most to all strains modern man has ever known were actually hybrids created by Mother Nature over thousands of years. If so that might explain strains like Iranian Autoflower.
