No they aren't, his promises were to balance the budget, stop the spending, reduce unemployment, Energy independence, free healthcare for all, close guantanamo and bring the troops home. You go ahead and find me a speech where he extols the virtues of creating a military families advisory board to the crowds before the election. Good luck.
The 'Official' Do Not Vote For Obama In 2012 - Thread. Don't Want Him Back N Office!
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mame
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Yeah, I had heard he made some ridiculous amount of promises.. But I guess they all do.
From my short time poking around so far, I'm a skeptic at least... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)#Criticism
Wiki cites some pretty strong arguments that make the whole NWO thing seem silly.. I should probably wait till I'm off work to really take a better look (so I can watch videos and shit).
MrDank007
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If he runs with 9% unemployment and $5 gas...he is out. He has relied entirely on more government spending, regulation, and control. Obama expanded or tried to expand the government's role in health care, energy, and of course banking.
newworldicon
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Without sounding condescending, I would start to discount wikipedia completely from now on out, the fact that it is open to content change by anyone makes it an unreliable source. You would never get away with a footnote from wikipedia in a dissertation so why would it be acceptable now?
PM me if you like and I'll suggest a few books and websites to send you on your way.
As a starting point you could read this book, the link refers to a book review but you can buy it online for pittence or even download on amazon reader. It is the best history of how the predominent families of the current NWO came to be in the positions they find themselves, it also explains the Afghan and Iraqi wars and perhaps the possible Iranian conquest in the future because of the oil in the Caspian. It also shows the BP British involvement, hence the Anglo/American contingent. It however does not take into effect that the Rockefeller group and US government has been undervaluing it's own natural crude resources for the last 50 years now.....
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/17840/book_review.html
EDIT: Posted on another thread on RIU which talks about the undervaluation of crude in th US...............
https://www.rollitup.org/toke-n-talk/423737-who-here-believes-power-sla-4.html
mame
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I went to wiki mostly for a quick perusal of the subject.
Wiki can be useful, but yes, you have to be careful. Wiki is useful for quick links especially in reference to historic events (dates, sometimes specific quotes that I'm looking for, that kind of thing). I only ever use the sourced information from wiki and I avoid using it at all for papers and the like... The criticisms were quotes from the Diplomatic Courier and some research professor. I didn't really look at much else besides the summary, which reminded me I had watched a special on the NWO on TV before.
edit: I'll check out the review, I'm getting ready to read The Return of Depression economics by Paul Krugman and recently finished The Conscience of a Liberal, (which I'd recomend in a heartbeat) so it'll likely be a while as busy as I am it takes me forever to read a book.
GottaHaveIt
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Barack’s selective service registration is not normal either… http://www.debbieschlussel.com/4428/exclusive-did-next-commander-in-chief-falsify-selective-service-registration-never-actually-register-obamas-draft-registration-raises-serious-questions/
After I looked at Barack’s selective service filing I noticed it was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used. Barack did not start using the name "Obama" until he returned from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in California) His selective service record (maintained in Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian post office as “Obama” in Sept 1980... Problem, Barack was getting high in California at Occidental in Sept 1980 (Barack's own admission) and was not using the fictitious name "Obama" at that time. Barack began using the fictitious name "Obama" only after he returned from Pakistan. The selective service filing is fraudulent.
After I looked at Barack’s selective service filing I noticed it was most likely fraudulent too based on the name he used. Barack did not start using the name "Obama" until he returned from Pakistan (long after he flunked out of school in California) His selective service record (maintained in Chicago coincidentally) shows he registered at a Hawaiian post office as “Obama” in Sept 1980... Problem, Barack was getting high in California at Occidental in Sept 1980 (Barack's own admission) and was not using the fictitious name "Obama" at that time. Barack began using the fictitious name "Obama" only after he returned from Pakistan. The selective service filing is fraudulent.
Mellowman2112
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I can tell from your posts that you care about America. I would like to know your opinion on this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXb-LrVkuwM
Please tell me what you think after reviewing this. Thanks Serapis
incognegro999
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It finally hit me today while browsing yahoo and I saw the president discussed the whole "birther" issue. Why the hell would he show it now? he has nothing to gain. Fuck hes hoping trump gains some traction with his argument, hell he wants the whole GOP to start demanding that birth certificate. Why? So two days before elections when he whips that fucker out on National tv they all look like idiots and he gets a huge boost..haha
what you guys think? I think his lil interview http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/obama-says-birther-talk-will-be-a-liability-for-gop was meant to be a warning. Back off this subject or your gonna get burned come election time.
what you guys think? I think his lil interview http://news.yahoo.com/s/yblog_theticket/obama-says-birther-talk-will-be-a-liability-for-gop was meant to be a warning. Back off this subject or your gonna get burned come election time.
iNVESTIGATE
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LOL
"..if you dumb enough to vote, your fuckin' dumb enough to believe 'em.."
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"..if you dumb enough to vote, your fuckin' dumb enough to believe 'em.."
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Mellowman2112
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OR with smoking something that according to their studies causes braincell death.? I want these fuckers out of my life and my pockets!
Mellowman2112
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ITs funny how anything antiestablishment takes like ten times longer to load on my computer.
newworldicon
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According to a source they are using the same tracking technology used in watching paedophiles in the UK to watch the traffic on these sites. 12 months ago I would log on in seconds, now they may as well announce it.
newworldicon
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What I find more interesting is that this thread is all of a sudden very quiet now that certain things have been revealed, there must be some frantic reading going on out there. Every eye opened is a victory for us all!!
The Ruiner
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Russia Today is a government funded news agency...full of exaggeration and anti-American vitriol...the same for Alex Jones (the anti-American sentiment). "The Real News" is actually news, but slathered with a "liberal" slant that does border on being anti-American. Which is funny, because it is being run and frequented by the same type of "elites" that everyone here seems to hate so much...Double standard anyone?
mame
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I actually find it quite astonishing how conservatives have been able to demonize 'the establishment' and 'the elite' despite the fact that all of their 'grassroots' organizations(Heritage, Cato, the Tea Party) are, in fact, funded by corporations such as Koch industries...
I mean, how fucking blind can people be?
I mean, how fucking blind can people be?
newworldicon
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Yes I see the double standard now, holding the American Government accountable for it's actions is "Exaggerated Anti-American vitriol and Liberal slander".
Thanks for pointing that out for me...
The Ruiner
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How and in what way do those sources actually hold the government accountable? Do they vote to change our leaders? Have they brought any positive change about that you've seen?
I haven't seen it...
The double standard with RT & Alex Jones should be obvious...Alex should GTFO of America if he is so upset, it's not like he doesnt have the MONEY....And real news, seriously? The guy who runs it is a total fucking elitist...
Just because this goes against your sensibilities doesnt mean that it's not a sensible approach to evaluating "news sources"
I haven't seen it...
The double standard with RT & Alex Jones should be obvious...Alex should GTFO of America if he is so upset, it's not like he doesnt have the MONEY....And real news, seriously? The guy who runs it is a total fucking elitist...
Just because this goes against your sensibilities doesnt mean that it's not a sensible approach to evaluating "news sources"
canndo
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Um... I am astonished that you find it astonishing. The fact that Conservatives have long been authoritarian in nature (in the sociological and psychological sense" indicates that they compartmentalize and ignore in order to conform with their "inside" group and their preselected leaders. It really is a rather simple set of formulas. Of course they have Soros to point to when you speak of such manipulations.