Dan Kone's 2011 NorCal Organic Forest

Gopedxr

Gopedxr

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Just another guy with a few plants thats awesome. This sun is like no other it feels like 115 out in the dessert. The girls are greener than ever over looks like!
 
brandon727272

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After reading you hate on 5 gallon buckets it makes me want to transplant my two to bigger pots... they're getting pretty big for the pots they're in, and I have a 15 gal and a 20 gallon bucket I can transplant them into. The only down side is, both of these seeds are regular so I don't know if they're male or female. Do you think I should do it anyway? I have the day off tomorrow so I totally could.
 
fumble

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Dan Kone said:
They are indeed sticky icky. A couple nights ago I was staking up colas wearing a short sleeve shirt and got resin all over my hands and arms. had to scrub them down with corn oil just to get it off. Was extremely unpleasant. Gotta wear long sleeves and gloves when I go in there now.
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**try some eye make-up remover**
 
Jozikins

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Dan Kone said:
I have no idea where to buy them online or in stores. Billygoat is really fucking good at breading, and really fucking bad at marketing/selling. That's why I was so stoked to run into him at the cannabis cup. Ended up kicking it with him for an hour or so. I told him that I was making crosses with his e32 wreck and he was really stoked and gave me a bunch of seeds for encouragement. He hooked me up with wreck seeds then we started discussing thai strains and he told me I must give his original strain, oriental express a try. I've never seen it as a final product but I do know that oriental express + his wreck are the thai and wreck that went into breading casey jones, so it sounds like a winner to me. I'll be growing them out in my next year's outdoor grow.

All I know, is that if you can track down e32 wreck or arcata wreck, get it. They are fucking amazing.



Yeah, I was skeptical too until my aunt grew it last year. Tried it once and I was sold. It's one of the few times hollywood didn't exaggerate how good it is.



I've actually hear bad things about G13 labs strains in general. This strain was not bread by them, they even admit they have no idea what the genetics are. There is quite a bit of speculation on how they got this strain, but who knows...



I never order anything grow related to the spot I grow.



In NorCal I'm just another guy with a few plants.
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Do you have an email or a online forum I could contact him at? I would like to try his seeds and if I like them have him vend in my dispensary. I think NorCal's air has more THC than Oxygen in it.
 
Dan Kone

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Jozikins said:
otherwise I'll be coming up north by the end of August to pick some of those bad boys up! Please let me in on any other good resources up there I should look into during my trip.
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PM me right before you come up and I'll do my best to point you in the right direction. I know what's up around the bay and norcal pretty well.
 
Dan Kone

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brandon727272 said:
After reading you hate on 5 gallon buckets it makes me want to transplant my two to bigger pots... they're getting pretty big for the pots they're in, and I have a 15 gal and a 20 gallon bucket I can transplant them into. The only down side is, both of these seeds are regular so I don't know if they're male or female. Do you think I should do it anyway? I have the day off tomorrow so I totally could.
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Do it. If one turns male pick up a clone to replace it. You will get a significant yield increase if you do. If you transplant now they can still fill out a 20g pot reasonably well. It will be waaaaay worth it.
 
Gopedxr

Gopedxr

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Sup dan I probably already asked but going to ask again. What you running for flowering nutes? I might run general hydroponics new duo program. A long with the black strap mollasses and snow storm. Neighbor said what he does is water with a gallon of water first. Then he puts the flowering nutes in another gallon of water and then just feeds it with that. So 1 gallon of clean water first then another gallon witht he nutes in it.

Does this sound like the best way to go?
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Gopedxr said:
Sup dan I probably already asked but going to ask again. What you running for flowering nutes?
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Outside, none. I'm pretty confident that my soil mix will hold up. Every once in a while I'll add compost tea, fish emulsions, kelp, and molasses.

Inside I'm using canna coco A&B, pk 13/14, molasses, and koolbloom in powder form. I make up the dosages as I go along based on strain and what the plants tell me they want.

I might run general hydroponics new duo program. A long with the black strap mollasses and snow storm. Neighbor said what he does is water with a gallon of water first. Then he puts the flowering nutes in another gallon of water and then just feeds it with that. So 1 gallon of clean water first then another gallon witht he nutes in it.

Does this sound like the best way to go?
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On your first run with the very basics. Use a two part nutrient system, a pk booster, and molasses. Then if you feel like trying new products like snowstorm, do it on your next run. Many many many nutrient products are rip offs. I'm not convinced products like snowstorm do much at all. As far as I can tell snowstorm is just adds potash. A pk booster will do the same thing, likely cheaper while giving you phosphorus as well.

Once you're done a grow like that, your next run if you feel like trying a new product, add one more product you'd like to try. No more than one. If you do it any other way you'll end up buying a bunch of nutrients that you don't need.

The watering method you posted is sound. A gallon of clean water to wash away salts, then add fresh nutrients. I like it.
 
Dan Kone

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Kottonmouth king15 said:
sounds like solid advice.very knowledgable,thats awesome your so willing to help! keep up the good work dan kone! your good people.
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It comes from making a shit load of mistakes. I was spending a ridiculous amount of money on nutrients each cycle. Then I decided to try a run with just the basics and I noticed no difference in quality or yield. At that point I became highly skeptical of nutrient additives and even the idea of pushing basic nutrients to the highest PPMs you can get them without burning.

IMO, plants need enough of everything so they do not develop deficiency and not a lot more. Past that it's your environmental conditions and genetics that are really the key. Keep a consistent temperature, PH, CO2, humidity, good light, no light leaks, treat your plants right, prune off the popcorn, brace your branches, have proper air flow, and select quality genetics and you're going to grow some good bud. If I see some potential deficiency or problem, I buy a product to correct it, but that's about it. Other than that I'm all about the basics these days. There are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there.
 
Jozikins

Jozikins

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Dan Kone said:
It comes from making a shit load of mistakes. I was spending a ridiculous amount of money on nutrients each cycle. Then I decided to try a run with just the basics and I noticed no difference in quality or yield. At that point I became highly skeptical of nutrient additives and even the idea of pushing basic nutrients to the highest PPMs you can get them without burning.

IMO, plants need enough of everything so they do not develop deficiency and not a lot more. Past that it's your environmental conditions and genetics that are really the key. Keep a consistent temperature, PH, CO2, humidity, good light, no light leaks, treat your plants right, prune off the popcorn, brace your branches, have proper air flow, and select quality genetics and you're going to grow some good bud. If I see some potential deficiency or problem, I buy a product to correct it, but that's about it. Other than that I'm all about the basics these days. There are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there.
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Well said. That's my quote of the day.
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Jozikins said:
Well said. That's my quote of the day.
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It should also be said that just like everyone else, I can get bad information too. There are so many variables when it comes to growing that bad information naturally happens. So when anyone sees something I say that sounds good, the first question you should always ask yourself is "is this information true?", then look into more for yourself until you're confident that it is in fact correct.

Also, if I post something that anyone feels is incorrect, feel free to correct me. I will not get offended by this. I might argue with you, but that doesn't mean I'm pissed about it. Accurate information is the most important benefit of this forum. Don't be afraid to hurt my feelings if anyone thinks I'm posting something inaccurate. I do not know everything.
 
wheezer

wheezer

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Dan Kone said:
It comes from making a shit load of mistakes. I was spending a ridiculous amount of money on nutrients each cycle. Then I decided to try a run with just the basics and I noticed no difference in quality or yield. At that point I became highly skeptical of nutrient additives and even the idea of pushing basic nutrients to the highest PPMs you can get them without burning.

IMO, plants need enough of everything so they do not develop deficiency and not a lot more. Past that it's your environmental conditions and genetics that are really the key. Keep a consistent temperature, PH, CO2, humidity, good light, no light leaks, treat your plants right, prune off the popcorn, brace your branches, have proper air flow, and select quality genetics and you're going to grow some good bud. If I see some potential deficiency or problem, I buy a product to correct it, but that's about it. Other than that I'm all about the basics these days. There are a lot of snake oil salesmen out there.
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Well said......bravo! Anybody need good advise, that's it...keep it simple stupid!! And start with good genetics or forget it.
 
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