Soil Sucks

woobystein

Active Member
You cannot grow 13 foot giants that make a man look like an ant in hydro. You cannot grow macking bushes that need to have nets around them to support the heavy colas in hydro. Hydro hasn't been around for thousands of years. Not saying hydro doesn't have it's own benefits and isn't cool.....but fuck your impatience and ignorance.
 

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I agree soil sucks for indoor growing but I think some good outdoor will beat hydro any day.
 

Joedank

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Soil shows results buffered results but that is the point .soil is the way for true earthy smoke. Plus you can lose a whole crop from a res over 75 , salt build up, cleaning salt build up and all the ph ing .alot of bullshit for a worse product.. Now if you have a grobot you can cash crop to the bank with hydro they do everything. Even hydro peeps trade weed from me. I sell the hydro crap it gives me phlegm problems. I also drowned my plants to help with leaching
 

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You cannot grow 13 foot giants that make a man look like an ant in hydro. You cannot grow macking bushes that need to have nets around them to support the heavy colas in hydro. Hydro hasn't been around for thousands of years. Not saying hydro doesn't have it's own benefits and isn't cool.....but fuck your impatience and ignorance.
I seen some monster hydro plants but nothing close to soil.And you sure it hasn't been around for awhile?I could see them using a kind of wick system or something back then.
 

Bulbasaur

Member
I hate playing devil's advocate but, some health canada tree are twice the size of a human indoor, plus you can put an hydroponic system outside and it will work (sounds like your comparing outdoor in soil to indoor hydroponic), I dont have a link but hydroponic has been used for more then a thousand year in some part of the world (not with a pump and all, but still is hydroponic)

so because someone grow in hydroponic he cant use a net? didnt know that

I hate hydro jut like you but, please give some real argument and make research

like in organic you cannot burn your plants (you can but its harder), personnaly i use a soil mix with a few organic products plus a good pile of compost and i dont need to ever need to add nutrient, seed to hearvest ,i dont check PH (dolomite) i dont add any nute i water once every 2 weeks ( i grow in 20g tub) its foolproof

in hydro you dont have access to beneficial micro organism which break down some nutrient that your root normally would not be able to use

in hydro you can burn your plant easily or get 200 L on the floor


the thing is in hydro the plant has what you give to her and not everyone know the perfect schedule for they plant (plus is varies alot plant to plant) the chance a hydroponic give the perfect environment are slight ( a perfect hydro grow can match an organic but its what 1 out of a thousand?)

in organic the plants take what it needs if its available
 

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I hate playing devil's advocate but, some health canada tree are twice the size of a human indoor, plus you can put an hydroponic system outside and it will work (sounds like your comparing outdoor in soil to indoor hydroponic), I dont have a link but hydroponic has been used for more then a thousand year in some part of the world (not with a pump and all, but still is hydroponic)

so because someone grow in hydroponic he cant use a net? didnt know that

I hate hydro jut like you but, please give some real argument and make research

like in organic you cannot burn your plants (you can but its harder), personnaly i use a soil mix with a few organic products plus a good pile of compost and i dont need to ever need to add nutrient, seed to hearvest ,i dont check PH (dolomite) i dont add any nute i water once every 2 weeks ( i grow in 20g tub) its foolproof

in hydro you dont have access to beneficial micro organism which break down some nutrient that your root normally would not be able to use

in hydro you can burn your plant easily or get 200 L on the floor


the thing is in hydro the plant has what you give to her and not everyone know the perfect schedule for they plant (plus is varies alot plant to plant) the chance a hydroponic give the perfect environment are slight ( a perfect hydro grow can match an organic but its what 1 out of a thousand?)

in organic the plants take what it needs if its available
I just checked it out on wikipedia it says in 1627 it was described in a book.It was probably around way before then
 

Bulbasaur

Member
I just checked it out on wikipedia it says in 1627 it was described in a book.It was probably around way before then
it can depends on your definition of hydroponic, i will go check around the net and correct myself if its necessary

like wiki definition of hydroponic is no soil, but for some a wick system is hydroponic

edit: heres what i had in mind when i said more then a thousand year

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanging_Gardens_of_Babylon

i readed the link a while ago, im rereading it right now, lets see if my memory is a fail
 

Bulbasaur

Member
ive never tried a 100% coco mix, whats your method? hand water it like soil or you put it in a hydro system

whats the adavantage? all i know is the ideal ph level is below soil and its supposed to make the bud taste better(hardly believe that, more then likely another factor)
 

tryingtogrow89

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I have seven gallon pots it is about 50% coco 50% PERLITE. i water 1 gallon of water by hand every other day in to each 7 gallon pot and i feecd every single time they get water and i have found that a ph from 5.7 - 6.2 is ideal. so pretty much hydro.
 

Bulbasaur

Member
and what are the advantage that make this better then soil and pure hydro in your opinion

Thanks for your answer in advance
 

tryingtogrow89

Well-Known Member
Hydro takes more energy usage, pumps reservoir coolers/warmers more timers and what not.
Soil in my personal experience is allot harder to flush and gets lockout too easily. Coco is also better than soil in every aspect of why hydro is better than soil. Bigger yield more oxygen etc.
 
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