Led Growing Is The Way Of The Future My Friends

[theinhibitor]

hoss12781 How is the penetration with the 3w crees ?? i have heard its been improved alot,
at the moment i have a rather large mango haze, it was flowerd at 2 ft in 5 weeks of flower it has become 7ft tall but tied down to 5 ft tall, and 8ft wide branch to branch, do you think these new leds would cope with larger plants like this , penetrating a large 5ft deep canopy or would you still rather use hps ?

most of the nice led grows i have seen are growing smaller indica plants

Can u believe they are coming out with 10 and 20w crees? Crazy stuff. Only problem i hear is shorter life. But imagine having 10 diodes for a 100watter. Sick stuff.

 

[curly604]

yo ive heard they have 90w diodes already!!!!! but are not all that efficient yet ..... there working on it i guess but holy fuck thats nuts

 

[BlazedMonkey]

As much as some people may have a problem with him, I kinda like Foot. His comments have really gotten a lot of responses which produced a bunch of information on here about the pros and cons of LED. I appreciate and commend you as a troll, but you have yet to dethrone Raw as the king troll in my book.

Way to find a silver lining sir
He brings some somewhat valid arguments at points, like i would agree on GPW being a bad indicator and GPKW a better one. Or GP$

 

[Harrekin]

yo ive heard they have 90w diodes already!!!!! but are not all that efficient yet ..... there working on it i guess but holy fuck thats nuts

From what Iv read anything over a 10w diode can't be cooled correctly to give it any sort of lifespan...pity for now but they'll overcome it eventually.

 

[El Superbeasto]

I wanna see what the 5 watt diodes do. I was not a believer in LEDs until I used panels with 3 watt diodes.

 

[Harrekin]

I wanna see what the 5 watt diodes do. I was not a believer in LEDs until I used panels with 3 watt diodes.

5w diodes are the present man, not the future

I searched for the link and couldnt find it... but theres a 1200w panel out there with 5w chips...it costs about the same as a car, but in fairness, 5 years from now we'll all have 2

 

[KawiZZR]

The 90w panel I'm using right now uses 6w diodes with 120 degree lenses. Haven't had a chance to hook it up to a multimeter yet to see the actual draw, but once I do I'll let you know how it turns out.

 

[El Superbeasto]

Blackdog LED uses them, that's the only company that I've seen so far. I have never seen a grow done with one though.

5w diodes are the present man, not the future

I searched for the link and couldnt find it... but theres a 1200w panel out there with 5w chips...it costs about the same as a car, but in fairness, 5 years from now we'll all have 2

 

[hoss12781]

hoss12781 How is the penetration with the 3w crees ?? i have heard its been improved alot,
at the moment i have a rather large mango haze, it was flowerd at 2 ft in 5 weeks of flower it has become 7ft tall but tied down to 5 ft tall, and 8ft wide branch to branch, do you think these new leds would cope with larger plants like this , penetrating a large 5ft deep canopy or would you still rather use hps ?

most of the nice led grows i have seen are growing smaller indica plants

Well I grow autos so I can't really judge how it would work on a five foot plus Sativa plant, but can tell you that even the lower buds which usually don't get their due have fully developed on my plants. The tallest of the four I have going right now is about 1 foot 10 inches. I would suspect if you were to attempt a tall plant you may want to designate a whole Pro Grow 180 to that plant alone, but cannot speak from first hand experience. For autos they do exactly what I need them to do and have noticed an improved final product vs my old set up.

 

[hoss12781]

The Stealth LED 1000w, I believe, its one of their higher end models has 50w diodes in the pattern. I spoke to a grower who was able to sample this panel for his grow. He said the 50w diodes, as you could probably expect, throw out a lot of heat and caused issues as there were four of them mixed in with lower wattage diodes creating weird hot spots in his garden. The unit also retails for over 2 grand.

 

[theinhibitor]

The Stealth LED 1000w, I believe, its one of their higher end models has 50w diodes in the pattern. I spoke to a grower who was able to sample this panel for his grow. He said the 50w diodes, as you could probably expect, throw out a lot of heat and caused issues as there were four of them mixed in with lower wattage diodes creating weird hot spots in his garden. The unit also retails for over 2 grand.

Are the 50w stable? Ive heard 10w and 20w are gimmicks right now, since they have to be cooled extensively otherwise they lose intensity

 

[hoss12781]

http://www.stealthgrow.com/advantages.htm
There is the link if you want to read up on it. I saw his grow it kicked ass. He owns several hydroponics shops in my area. I was trying to get him to loan it to me for a while since it was a sampler and he didn't pay shit for it. No dice. He has the 1250, and has had it less than a year so we'll have to wait and see how it holds up on the long run.

 

[Harrekin]

That uses 2 and 3w chips,not 50w,lol. It's actual power draw is only 600 ish watts too,that's not the one I was talking about. I'll look again for the link, but the one I saw had all 5w chips and had an actual 1200ish draw.

EDIT: My apologies,it's only 750ish watts http://www.blackdogled.com/products/platinum-xl

DOUBLE EDIT: Check this out http://www.blackdogled.com/products/bd1300 !!

 

[curly604]

Way to find a silver lining sir
He brings some somewhat valid arguments at points, like i would agree on GPW being a bad indicator and GPKW a better one. Or GP$

lol that was my argument

 

[BlazedMonkey]

lol that was my argument

Glad to see you think the same didn't see your post because of the threads length and drama I skim/don't read everything

Damn that blackdog pulls a ton of power. Someone needs to get it and have "blackdog" as their background music love zeppelin

 

[Hydrotech364]

The 90w panel I'm using right now uses 6w diodes with 120 degree lenses. Haven't had a chance to hook it up to a multimeter yet to see the actual draw, but once I do I'll let you know how it turns out.

I keep one in my truck @ all times Man.I am an alternative energy nut.I'm always coming across Solar Cells and electric motors I can switch over to generators.My next piece of property will have 10 Fucking Windmills on it and will look like a mirror from the Sky.

 

[hoss12781]

a Re-post from my journal pics ,but want to re-visit a debate from earlier in this thread (or possibly another, can't remember) - Is it better to have one large wattage panel or several quality small wattage panels?

My view is the several smaller (not too small, above 100w total output or more) is better for the modular capabilities, provided you're using good panels with 3w chipsets in the right spectrums. Since two of my four autos are done the remaining two will be getting the royal treatment. You just can't do this (see pic) with a single 500w plus panel. As long as the total wattage is relatively the same or maybe even a tad less you can rock it pretty hard with easy to move panels as opposed to one massive panel that can't take into account different sized plants.

Anyone else's thoughts?

 

[puffenuff]

View attachment 1789715a Re-post from my journal pics ,but want to re-visit a debate from earlier in this thread (or possibly another, can't remember) - Is it better to have one large wattage panel or several quality small wattage panels?

My view is the several smaller (not too small, above 100w total output or more) is better for the modular capabilities, provided you're using good panels with 3w chipsets in the right spectrums. Since two of my four autos are done the remaining two will be getting the royal treatment. You just can't do this (see pic) with a single 500w plus panel. As long as the total wattage is relatively the same or maybe even a tad less you can rock it pretty hard with easy to move panels as opposed to one massive panel that can't take into account different sized plants.

Anyone else's thoughts?

I think you're right in that smaller panels are more modular. However, I think what's best really depends on your situation. In a small space, I think either a couple small or one large would be about the same. In a medium sized space, i'd go with multiple smaller sizes for modularity. But for large spaces, i'd do multiple large units instead of many smaller ones because at that point you are dealing with less wires, less potential issues with defective lights, and you can still get that overlap in light coverage. I don't think I would go too low on the watts either for the smaller panels...i'd probably go 2 180's over a 360, 2 360's over 4 180's or one 720, i'd go 2 720's over 4 360's, etc. etc. but I doubt i'd use 4 panels to equal one larger as that's just too much equipment to deal with for me.

 

[hoss12781]

agreed, size and scope of the grow room must be taken into consideration.

 

[Hydrotech364]

I've spent my life designing and repairing Hydraulic Systems on everything imaginable.Happened upon a badass pump and went by the industrial supply today,checking prices.The cuttings are ready to be planted and this new design is gonna be way out off the Chain.Servo Valves,Nutrient difusers.Buying one more camera and even the fuckin Pope cant borrow it.