LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

novice11

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Had to share this. Photo on left is 3 days old. Photo on right is today. Before lights were 3 Fiji, 1 Red Sun and 4 Quantom red spectrum. Yesterday I added 1 more Red Sun, 1 UVL 454 and 1 Coral Wave. (Still have 1 Quantom in there as the 3rd Red Sun was DOA and a replacement is due next week).
Look how the plants have raised there arms toward the Coral Wave. Unbelievable.
 

LightLady

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Nice plants. [Soil is more forgiving, yes?]
I went for the whole NEW [potentially suicidal] experience of T5+AERO, so our metrics may vary a bit.
How far into flower were the plants in the 3day old photo please?
I really want to try 'Artificial Sun' Sulphur Plasma 1300 AAA.
 

PetFlora

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Off topic, BUT, I think that Air Pots would be kick-ass with this lighting. I went to 3 nurseries, NONE carried them. WTF????!~!!!!
 

PetFlora

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Novice: I see this when I use DM Liquid Light +Saturator ($$$) which suggests to me your light choice is duplicating DM supplements. :-)
 

LightLady

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nice plants. soil is more forgiving, yes?
i went the route of potential suicide w/ T5+AERO for my experiment, as i understand the metrics to be a bit different.
how long were the plants in 3 day old photo into flower please?
 

pr0fesseur

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if you would have had some actinic in the mix your plants would not be so spindly.. great grow though! now add some red suns quick!
 

pr0fesseur

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Had to share this. Photo on left is 3 days old. Photo on right is today. Before lights were 3 Fiji, 1 Red Sun and 4 Quantom red spectrum. Yesterday I added 1 more Red Sun, 1 UVL 454 and 1 Coral Wave. (Still have 1 Quantom in there as the 3rd Red Sun was DOA and a replacement is due next week).
Look how the plants have raised there arms toward the Coral Wave. Unbelievable.
The plants really do respond well to actinics... i cant stress enough the importance of having them in your grow... red suns are great, but haing more actinic light really gets them going!
 

LightLady

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if you would have had some actinic in the mix your plants would not be so spindly.. great grow though! now add some red suns quick!
red suns are 633nm & roseates are 650nm [i already have 4- roseates- 2 top/2side] with 2- 6500k & 10- 3000k bloom lamps. --total of 16 54watt lamps. should i still add more red suns?
i have actinic 420 & 460 in the veg & the fan leaves were huge. should i replace the 2- 6500k or 2- of the bloom lamps with the actinic blues in the latter setup?
 

novice11

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nice plants. soil is more forgiving, yes?
i went the route of potential suicide w/ T5+AERO for my experiment, as i understand the metrics to be a bit different.
how long were the plants in 3 day old photo into flower please?
They are 6 weeks in soil as of today so they were 5 1/2 weeks when the photo on the left was taken. Photo on right taken 2 days later not 3 as I originally said. Photo on right was during the 1st full day of the added bulbs. They were added midday the day before the photo was taken. So - to be clear - day1 left photo taken, day2 new lights added midday, day3 right photo taken.
 

MurshDawg

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Has anyone used the Coralife brand actinic bulbs? I figure that those are readily available at most commercial pet stores and aquarium stores across the US. I just want to know if they are worth a try. The PAR graph look good, it peaks at 420nm with >80% intensity. Any thoughts?
 

pr0fesseur

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Yes we have discussed these bulbs..
I have recommended the coral waves the reef waves are similar to the actinic plus..
There are better bulbs especially those with internal reflectors..like UVL Internal reflectors.
 

pr0fesseur

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I am not discounting other bulbs im sure they work just fine. (within the paramaters discussed in this forum)
Please feel free to buy the bulbs and experiment. But if i can get a similar bulb WITH an internal reflector.. thats always a bonus... more light directly to the plant remember reverse square law demands 50% of your light travels 1.5x the distance to the bulb... light must reflect then travel back through the glass and off the reflector thus diminishing the amount of light rec'd
In this Internal manner we can assume that 99.99% of light is emitted in the SAME direction thus gaining in efficiency..
Im just trying to achieve the best benefit/cost ratio
 

novice11

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Light them things up and send a pic!
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As promised, from left to right, (1) Fiji (2) Red Sun (3) 454 (4) Red Sun (5) Fiji (6) Coral Wave (7) Red Sun (eight) Fiji. (If I put in the number eight I get the emoticon with the sunglasses).

This is for Flower/Bloom in a 12/12 grow. When I go back to Veg, #4 Red Sun will be replaced with a 75.25 and #6 Coral Wave will be replaced by a Super Actinic.

For 12/12 the Veg bulbs will stay until all the girls show their pistils, about 4-6 weeks, then I switch back to the Flower/Bloom bulbs.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Any of you guys moved to T5 from HPS? If so what percentage of growth would you say you get compared to the HPS and how is the heat situation in comparison?
 

PetFlora

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As promised, from left to right, (1) Fiji (2) Red Sun (3) 454 (4) Red Sun (5) Fiji (6) Coral Wave (7) Red Sun (eight) Fiji. (If I put in the number eight I get the emoticon with the sunglasses).

This is for Flower/Bloom in a 12/12 grow. When I go back to Veg, #4 Red Sun will be replaced with a 75.25 and #6 Coral Wave will be replaced by a Super Actinic.

For 12/12 the Veg bulbs will stay until all the girls show their pistils, about 4-6 weeks, then I switch back to the Flower/Bloom bulbs.
I am reading a 12/12 from seed thread. Clearly it works, but wouldn't 10-14 days of veg first significantly improve yield? Also I am looking into getting some Air Pots. If doing a 12/12 or variant with APs, geez I would imagine getting 8-10 plants under an 8 bulb.
 
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