Prove to you There's a God?

[Marlboro47]

As opposed to sounding retarded using double negatives?

 

[Padawanbater2]

There are certain things that are ok for people to believe in that make sense, and others which the more ignorant population of our citys follow which lead to self destruction and violence towards others which do not make sense. These that do not make sense follow by people who are beginning to be enlightenend but then are received by an evil spirit(Spirituality speaking) which at first blind the person into believing they know whats best and they stop making rational desicions that allow them to use their anger for something useful other then violence and irrational planning to gain benefit from some way or an other.

Starting your paragraph you stated that we have to make people admit and understand that they have nothing to go on but faith, because then faith itself becomes something more then needs to be redifined into a new word.

I would define it as something that is extremely powerful and moving in a way that clears your mind from all negativity and allows you to think of the best and most rational reason to do things. I mean sure there are times where you have to put your shoes on and walk outside and sometimes you don't make the best choices in routes, but in the end you always come back home.
The defintion can continouously be lengthened into something that is described as not only something that clears your mind but when you allow yourself to be healed with Jesus's teaching that tell you exactly the difference betweens fools and others who have wisdom you can change all of your paths with something more then faith. So to admit that us that believe only have faith is the beginning to your wall of text that I was completely immune to which is why I was warned not to great your false doctrine.

The whole conclusion to my statements from the beginning is OP quote ftw, I know its why you hate me... And I love you all that try to help me understand from your perspective but I am helping you try to understand and to keep you from speaking against the word that you are denying that will enlighten you to the point way past where I am going to be in a couple of years.

I am not exactly sure where my paths are, I find the hardest ones to take sometimes. Going offroad is completely different from learning with the ussual paths that you end up fallings asleep from. Besides that when you go offroad you pay 100% and im sure it expands your mind wayy more then taking your normal path that you can take and walk/drive perfectly when your intoxicated more then you've ever been before...
Like I said already, I really just want you all to be enlightened...Not by me but by the book. The bible is so amazing that my eyes need rest after reading more then 10 pages.

I can almost admit to have meating something more then regular life living, it is something that releases all pnegative pressure because we are told to love one an other as a brother and sister. There should be nothing wrong with that knowing that when you hate someone or something its always somehow popping up and its the things that you remember the most, so when you love one an other and when you follow other wise teachings such as no lust, no worries, no fears, and ect... you become enlightened to the point where you can sit down and smoke a bowl and only remember that by being enlightened the only mistakes you make is be resisting temptation because like I said before you choose wrong paths sometimes.

By choosing wrong paths you learn and realize that the whole reason to forgiveness was because Jesus knew that we would take wrong paths occasionaly and thats the whole reason why we are judged in greateness, according to our works and those that deny him can not be great. Which is the whole reason why at least I want you guys tos top talking shit about God because you never know when you'll need him and if you shut your mouth you can be instantly enlightened. Because if you don't shut your mouth the spirits that blidn you from the light will be great.

When you begin to search for a greater understanding you can understand the whole reason why I am writing to you in the first place. Just remember that practice makes perfect and when you try to understand everything that I can type down to you at the pace that you can read at you will learn exactly what lies are and what can not be judged if from the beginning you know it is ment to deceive you which hould not be uncovered and should be left in the darkness. Unless you know what your doing... of course thats why there are differen't paths for everyone.



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Marlboro47

What about the Bible, specificallyis it that moves you? I can pick bits and pieces from books or authors that have shaped the way I view the world. I can tell you why and I could even tell you when I read it or how it changed me, because it's so important to my own personal life. I'd expect you should be able to do the same, right? So what is it within the Bible that you believe all of us atheists are simply missing? Why have I read it and not seen what you seem to have seen?

I notice this every time I read a testimony like this from a theist, it's incoherent and jumbled together, the whole post doesn't make much sense. This kind of stuff reinforces the idea that religious people simply have sloppy thinking. I'm not calling you dumb, I'm saying it's a lot easier to go with the crowd and believe what you're told than it is to think and figure stuff out for yourself. It's hard to think correctly, it takes effort.

It's really rare I come across a theist whose actually adamant about thinking correctly and reaching the right conclusions based on truth and not comfort. I can think of one in my personal life, and I can also see instances in her thought process that lead her to believe the theistic claims she does and the inconsistencies she skips over to save the comfort.



So what is it about the Bible, Marlboro, that makes you think it's the number one message the creator of the universe would want it's creations to understand?

 

[Heisenberg]

ARGUMENT FROM REVEALED SCRIPTURES
(1) The existence of God can not be inferred from sense perception or from logic.
(2) The existence of God can be understood from the revealed scriptures.
(3) Revealed scriptures say that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF
(1) Jesus said some really cool stuff.
(2) No one else had said that stuff.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS
(1) The Bible says atheists are fools.
(2) I don't want to be a fool.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (I)
(1) Someone made fun of my faith.
(2) God said that persecution would happen.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II)
(1) Jesus said that people would make fun of Christians.
(2) I am an idiot.
(3) People often point that out.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

 

[Marlboro47]

What about the Bible, specificallyis it that moves you? I can pick bits and pieces from books or authors that have shaped the way I view the world. I can tell you why and I could even tell you when I read it or how it changed me, because it's so important to my own personal life. I'd expect you should be able to do the same, right? So what is it within the Bible that you believe all of us atheists are simply missing? Why have I read it and not seen what you seem to have seen?

I notice this every time I read a testimony like this from a theist, it's incoherent and jumbled together, the whole post doesn't make much sense. This kind of stuff reinforces the idea that religious people simply have sloppy thinking. I'm not calling you dumb, I'm saying it's a lot easier to go with the crowd and believe what you're told than it is to think and figure stuff out for yourself. It's hard to think correctly, it takes effort.

It's really rare I come across a theist whose actually adamant about thinking correctly and reaching the right conclusions based on truth and not comfort. I can think of one in my personal life, and I can also see instances in her thought process that lead her to believe the theistic claims she does and the inconsistencies she skips over to save the comfort.



So what is it about the Bible, Marlboro, that makes you think it's the number one message the creator of the universe would want it's creations to understand?

The bible itself is the most elaborate story I have ever read.
What is it specifically that moves me? Is the fact that it teaches me exactly how a smart person thinks and feels. And to top it off it teaches me how to agree with people and have conversations with eachother without lying and deceiving each other. Which is why I love the spirit that is in me when I love one and other and accept Jesus Christ as my savior.

What I dislike about all other books is that they are compiled by people with no morals; people that would lie just for entertainment money, maybe even for the purpose of brain washing you into buying their next book.

 

[Marlboro47]

TV BRAIN WASHES YOU FIGHT BACKSMOKE MORE WEEDFight the power and fuck TV!
Listen to some music that is from the 70s!

 

[Padawanbater2]

The bible itself is the most elaborate story I have ever read.

'elaborate' in what way? What do you mean?

What is it specifically that moves me? Is the fact that it teaches me exactly how a smart person thinks and feels.

How does it do that?

What I dislike about all other books is that they are compiled by people with no morals; people that would lie just for entertainment money, maybe even for the purpose of brain washing you into buying their next book.

Even the Christians who've written books?

The Bible has been rewritten dozens of times over hundreds of years, what makes you think someone, or a group of people throughout history wouldn't alter it to benefit them in some way?

 

[blazinkill504]

The bible itself is the most elaborate story I have ever read.
What is it specifically that moves me? Is the fact that it teaches me exactly how a smart person thinks and feels. And to top it off it teaches me how to agree with people and have conversations with eachother without lying and deceiving each other. Which is why I love the spirit that is in me when I love one and other and accept Jesus Christ as my savior.

What I dislike about all other books is that they are compiled by people with no morals; people that would lie just for entertainment money, maybe even for the purpose of brain washing you into buying their next book.

look what you said...its a STORY...a book of literature not historical fact. and how the hell doesnt the bible do the same things you're talkin about when you talk about other books?

 

[Heisenberg]

So to admit that us that believe only have faith is the beginning to your wall of text that I was completely immune to which is why I was warned not to great your false doctrine.

Translation: You mention faith, and my faith teaches me to ignore criticism, so I didn't read your text. Thank you Jesus for such profound ignorance!

 

[Marlboro47]

Translation: You mention faith, and my faith teaches me to ignore criticism, so I didn't read your text. Thank you Jesus for such profound ignorance!

Im lost man, I need a new translation.

 

[eye exaggerate]

At this point, and this post should not be moved to the best sexual position thread I see the larynx as eve, the brain as adam, and the breath as being God. 'Words' come from there.

When I study cuneiform, I see that there are 'words' scribed onto 'clay' (= to me) the 'breath' that was placed into the 'earth'.

 

[Marlboro47]

Bong hits anyone? Sometimes its better just to smoke up, enjoy life and realize whats stopping you from enjoying life...

Thing is only you can help yourself enjoy life, thing that sucks is you can't stop those who try to stop you from enjoying life.

 

[Padawanbater2]

I quoted you directly, answer that post please, there's a few questions in it.

 

[beardo]

God Rules !!!!

 

[Marlboro47]

I quoted you directly, answer that post please, there's a few questions in it.

Jesus spoke in parables. Theres your multi-answer.

All other books suck because their based on lies, even if their Christian their writing a fiction book which is a bunch of bs.
The bible is the only thing I see with knowledge and power because Jesus's words have eternal life.



When textbooks were written in a way so that people have trouble learning, you know that textbooks deceive us just as well as anyone who would deny Jesus Christ.

The only real book is the bible, all the other ones are ment to warp your mind while they teach you something.

Read the bible, and listen to commercials closer, why do you think we have backround music?
Why do you think kids can't stop staring at the TV when you walk in the door?

Ever try talking to your kids while their watching tv or playing video games?

You want answers for a couple of questions, why not question everything that I am saying to find the answers that will help you find out why I am writting in the first place?

 

[Beefbisquit]

ARGUMENT FROM REVEALED SCRIPTURES
(1) The existence of God can not be inferred from sense perception or from logic.
(2) The existence of God can be understood from the revealed scriptures.
(3) Revealed scriptures say that God exists.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM JESUS SAID STUFF
(1) Jesus said some really cool stuff.
(2) No one else had said that stuff.
(2) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM FOOLISHNESS
(1) The Bible says atheists are fools.
(2) I don't want to be a fool.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (I)
(1) Someone made fun of my faith.
(2) God said that persecution would happen.
(3) Therefore, God exists.

ARGUMENT FROM PERSECUTION (II)
(1) Jesus said that people would make fun of Christians.
(2) I am an idiot.
(3) People often point that out.
(4) Therefore, God exists.

I'd like to pledge my undying allegiance to Heisensberg. I take my hat off to you, sir...

I'd also like to thank California, for making "Toasted head" Chardonnay... I didn't get to see James Randi, (sold out) but god dammit I'm going to enjoy some wine.

 

[hyperducer]

the realest words spoken so far!!!!! So my two cents are this, If any of it is to be considered, the Old Testament is where to start. Written by Hebrew priests, that are unknown to us, and seems to have the "basics" in it. Now the New Testament is another story. Mans ugly hand has disected and taken as well as added thousands of verses, and phrases so that noone knows exactly what the original text held in it. NONE of the books of the apostles were written by anyone who even knew them! Or were alive at the time they were! So how truly accurate could the new testament be? King James Version? I wonder who decided what would be put in that? Also its probably sortof important to remember that if you weren't a christian Emperor Constantine would feed you your balls, after his soldiers killed your family.

 

[tyler.durden]

There are certain things that are ok for people to believe in that make sense, and others which the more ignorant population of our citys follow which lead to self destruction and violence towards others which do not make sense. These that do not make sense follow by people who are beginning to be enlightenend but then are received by an evil spirit(Spirituality speaking) which at first blind the person into believing they know whats best and they stop making rational desicions that allow them to use their anger for something useful other then violence and irrational planning to gain benefit from some way or an other.

Starting your paragraph you stated that we have to make people admit and understand that they have nothing to go on but faith, because then faith itself becomes something more then needs to be redifined into a new word.

I would define it as something that is extremely powerful and moving in a way that clears your mind from all negativity and allows you to think of the best and most rational reason to do things. I mean sure there are times where you have to put your shoes on and walk outside and sometimes you don't make the best choices in routes, but in the end you always come back home.
The defintion can continouously be lengthened into something that is described as not only something that clears your mind but when you allow yourself to be healed with Jesus's teaching that tell you exactly the difference betweens fools and others who have wisdom you can change all of your paths with something more then faith. So to admit that us that believe only have faith is the beginning to your wall of text that I was completely immune to which is why I was warned not to great your false doctrine.

The whole conclusion to my statements from the beginning is OP quote ftw, I know its why you hate me... And I love you all that try to help me understand from your perspective but I am helping you try to understand and to keep you from speaking against the word that you are denying that will enlighten you to the point way past where I am going to be in a couple of years.

I am not exactly sure where my paths are, I find the hardest ones to take sometimes. Going offroad is completely different from learning with the ussual paths that you end up fallings asleep from. Besides that when you go offroad you pay 100% and im sure it expands your mind wayy more then taking your normal path that you can take and walk/drive perfectly when your intoxicated more then you've ever been before...
Like I said already, I really just want you all to be enlightened...Not by me but by the book. The bible is so amazing that my eyes need rest after reading more then 10 pages.

I can almost admit to have meating something more then regular life living, it is something that releases all pnegative pressure because we are told to love one an other as a brother and sister. There should be nothing wrong with that knowing that when you hate someone or something its always somehow popping up and its the things that you remember the most, so when you love one an other and when you follow other wise teachings such as no lust, no worries, no fears, and ect... you become enlightened to the point where you can sit down and smoke a bowl and only remember that by being enlightened the only mistakes you make is be resisting temptation because like I said before you choose wrong paths sometimes.

By choosing wrong paths you learn and realize that the whole reason to forgiveness was because Jesus knew that we would take wrong paths occasionaly and thats the whole reason why we are judged in greateness, according to our works and those that deny him can not be great. Which is the whole reason why at least I want you guys tos top talking shit about God because you never know when you'll need him and if you shut your mouth you can be instantly enlightened. Because if you don't shut your mouth the spirits that blidn you from the light will be great.

When you begin to search for a greater understanding you can understand the whole reason why I am writing to you in the first place. Just remember that practice makes perfect and when you try to understand everything that I can type down to you at the pace that you can read at you will learn exactly what lies are and what can not be judged if from the beginning you know it is ment to deceive you which hould not be uncovered and should be left in the darkness. Unless you know what your doing... of course thats why there are differen't paths for everyone.



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Marlboro47

No, wait. I love the end of this post "This was not copied and pasted." Which website would a monolog like this be from? www.confusedincoherantchristians.org?

 

[Beefbisquit]

There are certain things that are ok for people to believe in that make sense,

I would LOVE to hear this "list"....

and others which the more ignorant population of our citys follow which lead to self destruction and violence towards others which do not make sense.

And other which do that which is not that which isn't that which is that is not that... lol

These that do not make sense follow by people who are beginning to be enlightenend but then are received by an evil spirit(Spirituality speaking) which at first blind the person into believing they know whats best and they stop making rational desicions that allow them to use their anger for something useful other then violence and irrational planning to gain benefit from some way or an other.

Dude, seriously - I've drank a quart of wine, and 12 beer, and I make 137% more sense than you.

Starting your paragraph you stated that we have to make people admit and understand that they have nothing to go on but faith, because then faith itself becomes something more then needs to be redifined into a new word.

"then faith itself becomes something more then needs to be redifined into a new word"

.... I....... you know what........ what-the-fuck-ever.....

I would define it as something that is extremely powerful and moving in a way that clears your mind from all negativity and allows you to think of the best and most rational reason to do things. I mean sure there are times where you have to put your shoes on and walk outside and sometimes you don't make the best choices in routes, but in the end you always come back home.

So, god moves you to not be negative - and allows you to use reason to not figure out that you're not using reason...... I see.... see what I did there?

The defintion can continouously be lengthened into something that is described as not only something that clears your mind but when you allow yourself to be healed with Jesus's teaching that tell you exactly the difference betweens fools and others who have wisdom you can change all of your paths with something more then faith.

So to admit that us that believe only have faith is the beginning to your wall of text that I was completely immune to which is why I was warned not to great your false doctrine.

Is this really a thing?

The whole conclusion to my statements from the beginning is OP quote ftw, I know its why you hate me... And I love you all that try to help me understand from your perspective but I am helping you try to understand and to keep you from speaking against the word that you are denying that will enlighten you to the point way past where I am going to be in a couple of years.

It scares me, that I understand this..... somewhat.......

I think it's a drunk thing... I'm pretty wasted and kind of, SOMEWHAT get the idea..... er.... maybe I don't.... at this point I'm not sure it matters....

I am not exactly sure where my paths are, I find the hardest ones to take sometimes. Going offroad is completely different from learning with the ussual paths that you end up fallings asleep from. Besides that when you go offroad you pay 100% and im sure it expands your mind wayy more then taking your normal path that you can take and walk/drive perfectly when your intoxicated more then you've ever been before...

WTF IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW. WHAT IS THIS.

Like I said already, I really just want you all to be enlightened...Not by me but by the book. The bible is so amazing that my eyes need rest after reading more then 10 pages.

Eye fatigue... probably from atrophy.... you should probably read more...

I can almost admit to have meating something more then regular life living, it is something that releases all pnegative pressure because we are told to love one an other as a brother and sister. There should be nothing wrong with that knowing that when you hate someone or something its always somehow popping up and its the things that you remember the most, so when you love one an other and when you follow other wise teachings such as no lust, no worries, no fears, and ect... you become enlightened to the point where you can sit down and smoke a bowl and only remember that by being enlightened the only mistakes you make is be resisting temptation because like I said before you choose wrong paths sometimes.

IS THAT ONE FUCKING SENTENCE? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT.

By choosing wrong paths you learn and realize that the whole reason to forgiveness was because Jesus knew that we would take wrong paths occasionaly and thats the whole reason why we are judged in greateness, according to our works and those that deny him can not be great. Which is the whole reason why at least I want you guys tos top talking shit about God because you never know when you'll need him and if you shut your mouth you can be instantly enlightened. Because if you don't shut your mouth the spirits that blidn you from the light will be great.

When you begin to search for a greater understanding you can understand the whole reason why I am writing to you in the first place. Just remember that practice makes perfect and when you try to understand everything that I can type down to you at the pace that you can read at you will learn exactly what lies are and what can not be judged if from the beginning you know it is ment to deceive you which hould not be uncovered and should be left in the darkness. Unless you know what your doing... of course thats why there are differen't paths for everyone.

I fucking quit. Game over, man.... Game over....

This was not copied and pasted.

I fucking hope not.

 

[Marlboro47]

Thank god its saturday! Clubs open early and there is no school today!
Bong hits like you've got munchies saved up for that day!

 

[eye exaggerate]

...ze sperm, en ze ovum ...1+0 makes 1

...the tension between the opposites (of mind) creates by planting a seed (thought) into a field of pure potentiality (reality). Seems reasonable to me that the voice is the vehicle. Nothing around me, that I can see, has been created without thought first.

There's a 'coupling' feature to reality at a quantum level. Strong forces, etc. Anyone willing to expand that with their knowledge of those forces is more than welcome to do so. Still reading a lot about this but so far it tickles me pink.