Molasses doesnt do anything

[pabloesqobar]

I've used unsulfured molasses in the past, but didn't see much benefit. I switched to this stuff, and it rocks!

 

[209whitebread]

so will this kill mildew??? i have a mildew problem that keeps coming and going

 

[Carne Seca]

I have a great idea. Instead of arguing about this, why don't the people who swear by molasses (me included) use it and the people who claim it doesn't do shit, not use it. Simple enough, right?

 

[Jogro]

"Plants themselves don't use all of the energy they make through photosynthesis. For example, 60 percent of a vegetable plant's energy goes to its root system, and half of that energy is exuded into the soil. Of those exudates, 90 percent are sugars; the rest are carbohydrates and proteins. When you think about these ingredients as food, they're the makings for cake. This is high-energy stuff. Why is nearly one-third of a vegetable plant's output going into the soil as energy-rich food? To feed the good bacteria and fungi.

When we human beings kill off bacteria, fungi, protozoa, nematodes, and other organisms, whether by polluting the air or by spraying pesticides or even by using chemical fertilizers, we're reducing the population of critters that plants feed. That's why one of the simplest and best things you can do for your garden is to spray your plants with compost tea, to bring back organisms killed by chemicals."

Having a popular and/or long running garden column doesn't ensure that you know what you're talking about, only that you have an audience.

Whatever this author's credentials when it comes to botany (let alone microbiology), she's making multiple assertions/generalizations here, that in fact likely don't apply to most gardeners:

"When we kill off beneficial bacteria with pesticides and fertilizers".

This is one of those "if my grandmother had wheels" type of statements.

Putting the statement this way implies that any use of pesticides or fertilizers will kill off all beneficial soil bacteria, and this simply isn't true.

This is the exact "lay statement" that the Texas A&M soil biologist took pains to refute, put into "lay press" (eg a popular newpaper column or website aimed at the public). Most use of fertilizers or pesticides will NOT kill off all soil microorganisms.

"we're reducing the population of critters that plants feed."

Stipulating for the sake of argument that this is true (and its probably isn't), it doesn't necessarily follow that the plant itself will be hurt by a reduction in soil bacteria.

First of all, bacteria grow very quickly to fill their available niche. They can literally double in population every single hour. If bacterial populations are reduced for some reason, they'll generally spring right back. . .that's one of the A&M biologists points. A transient reduction in bacterial count is effectively meaningless, even a really significant reduction of say 95% or more. . .like cockroaches, the only way you're going to get rid of them is to get rid of all of them at once and then prevent new ones from coming in.

"spray your plants with compost tea, to bring back organisms killed by chemicals."

No explanation here of how spraying your plants leaves (which is what's implied here) is going to repopulate the SOIL with beneficial bacteria (let alone worms). Presumably, you'd want to introduce the bacteria in question into the soil, where they actually live. . .rather than onto a plants leaves. . .where they'd likely die, right?

More important, there is no explanation of how these new beneficial bacteria from your compost tea are going to survive in the putatively toxic polluted environment caused by the fertilizers. If your soil is so contaminated from fertilizers that all of the beneficial bacteria in it were killed, then why should adding a few more with compost tea accomplish anything?

I'm not knocking compost tea. . .is the organic equivalent of soluble fertilizer and likely great for plants. . .but I just don't think this author's assertions square with microbiology 101.

Now, if you demand evidence-based statements, then I'd like to see some evidence backing the claim that molasses is a helpful adjunct to growing cannabis. That's quite a different thing than individual assertions that its true. It well might be true (and in fact, I believe it probably is under very specific circumstances), but without evidence, why should we accept pretty strong claims about it?

Let see an actual controlled study quantifying the effects of added molasses.

Until I see something along those lines, the "null hypothesis" is what you might expect from common sense. . .namely that you're probably not going to see any "magical" boost by adding a little sugar water to your plants roots.

 

[Sencha]

Sweet Baby Ray's is YUM!!!!

 

[Jogro]

I have a great idea. Instead of arguing about this, why don't the people who swear by molasses (me included) use it and the people who claim it doesn't do shit, not use it. Simple enough, right?

That's going to happen anyway.
Besides, what's the internet for if not for pointless rude arguments between total strangers?

Here are my questions for you, and they're serious questions.

How do you use molasses (ie what kind of grow, how much do you use, what type/brand, and when) and what do you believe it does for you?

 

[Jogro]

so will this kill mildew??? i have a mildew problem that keeps coming and going

Molasses most definitely will NOT kill mildew.

I don't know whether it will or won't make your mildew problem worse, but since its mostly sugar, I wouldn't entirely discount that possibility.

 

[Gr33nCrack]

Right and AACT is just a bunch of garbage, does nothing for the plant, its a a complete waste to go an extra step and pump your solution before feeding

 

[dannyboy602]

i use sugar daddy. i used it to grow this...
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.............................now what's all this about molasses doesn't work?

 

[homebrewer]

i use sugar daddy. i used it to grow this...
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I think you're assigning credit where it isn't due.

 

[Jogro]

IMO Mrs. Ingham is just a little more respected (worldwide) and qualified in the "soil microbiology" field than Mr. Zuberer.

This is just another appeal to authority.

Frankly, whatever global popularity she may have (ie her "respect level") from authoring a popular gardening column doesn't ensure that everything (or indeed ANYTHING) she says is true. To judge that you have to look at her statements, background, and evidence.

As to her actual credentials, frankly, I actually doubt Dr. Ingham has any publication history or rigorous background in microbiology at all.

For example, you posted a link to her article about "compost tea": http://www.finegardening.com/how-to/articles/brewing-compost-tea.aspx

Scroll to the end of that article, and there is a link to another one by someone probably quite a bit less "respected", that effectively demolishes the entire content of her article. Ouch:

http://www.finegardening.com/how-to/articles/jury-still-out-on-compost-tea.aspx

Now, my point is not to bash this author or her compost tea. This thread is supposed to be about molasses.

There have been a lot of assertions, but I have yet to see any piece of actual evidence that molasses provides a special benefit in growing cannabis. I've looked at every link to authority so far, and unless I've missed something, none of them address this directly, or even indirectly!

Again, I think its plausible that molasses might offer *some* benefit, under very particular circumstances, but I'm pretty skeptical that its much, let alone a "wonder agent".

 

[T Ray]

From Jogro

As to her actual credentials, frankly, I actually doubt Dr. Ingham has any publication history or rigorous background in microbiology at all.

She doesn't have credentials????????? Are you on drugs? Did you not read my entire post? It said and I quote "The internationally respected soil microbiologist started her academic career at St. Olaf College in Northfield, MN, graduating with a double major in biology and chemistry in 1974. She then received her Master of Science in Microbiology from Texas A&M in 1977 and her doctoral degree in Microbiology from Colorado State University in 1981. Dr. Ingham then took a post-doctoral fellowship at Colorado State University's Natural Resource Ecology Lab."

I underlined the important things if you would of took the time to read them.

From : http://www.elaineingham.com/ and you can read up more on her qualifying credentials and eat your words son.

And FYI make sure you read whole threads before posting your garbage b/c she is a MICRO BIOLOGIST! The man who I was referring to that writes the journal is not the same person as Mrs. Ingham. Go back and read what I wrote. You can't just skim things and expect to learn anything.

 

[T Ray]

I think her credentials make her far more credible than someone talking about what they "think" they know on RIU. She has more credentials than anyone who has brought any piece of evidence from any source. And sorry for taking advice from someone who is so respected in the exact field....WHAT WAS I THINKING?

 

[zvuv]

I got these from her CV which took about 30 secs with google.
These days it's so easy to check things like this that there's no excuse not to do so.

Over 70 papers, the vast majority in peer reviewed journals ( the highest academic standard) and a buncha books

Right or wrong, this chick is a heavyweight. A lot of people get their Phds and go straight to work for industry. They may publish just a few papers in their careers. A CV like this can only be found among the elite of the field.


Published Literature
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]1. Ames, R.N., E.R. Ingham and C.P.P. Reid. (1982). Ultraviolet-induced autofluorescence of arbuscular mycorrhizal root infections: An alternative to clearing and staining methods for assessing infections. Can. Jr. Microbiol. 28:351-355. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]2. Ingham, E.R. and D.A. Klein. (1982). Relationship between fluorescein diacetate-stained hyphae and oxygen utilization, glucose utilization and biomass of submerged fungal batch cultures. Appl. Environ.Microbiol. 28:351-355. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]3. McClellan, J.F., D.C. Coleman, K.A. Horton and E.R. Ingham. (1982). The effect of chloroform on protozoa and other soil inhabitants. J. Protozool. 29:491. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]4. Ingham, E.R. and D.A. Klein. (1984). Soil fungi: Relationships between hyphal activity and staining with fluorescein diacetate. Soil Biol. Biochem. 16:273-278. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]5. Ingham, E.R. and D.A. Klein. (1984). Soil fungi: Measurement of hyphal length. Soil Biol. Biochem. 16:279-280. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]6. Ames, R.N., C.P.P. Reid and E.R. Ingham. (1984). Rhizosphere bacterial population responses to root colonization by a vesicular-arbuscular mycorrhizal fungus. New Phytol. 96:555-563. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]7. Ingham, E.R. and D.A. Klein. (1984). Phosphatase activity of Penicillium citrinum submerged batch cultures and its relationship to fungal activity. Plant and Soil 81:61-68. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]8. Ingham, E.R. and D.C. Coleman. (1984). Effects of streptomycin, cycloheximide, fungizone, captan, carbofuran, cygon and PCNB on soil microbe populations and nutrient cycling. Microbial Ecology 10:345-358. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]9. Ingham, R.E., J.A. Trofymow, E.R. Ingham and D.C. Coleman. (1985). Interactions of bacteria, fungi and their nematode grazers: Effects on nutrient cycling and plant growth. Ecological Monographs 55:119-140. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]10. Ingham, E.R. (1985). Review of the effects of twelve selected biocides on target and non-target soil organisms. Crop Protection 4:3032. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]11. Ingham, E.R., D.A. Klein and M.J. Trlica. (1985). Responses of microbial components of the rhizosphere to plant management strategies in semiarid rangeland. Plant and Soil 85:65-76. [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]12. Ingham, E.R., C. Cambardella and D.C. Coleman. (1986). Manipulation of bacteria, fungi and protozoa by biocides in lodgepole pine forest soil microcosms: Effects on organism interactions and nitrogen mineralization. Can. J. Soil Sci. 66:261-272. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]13. Frey, J.S., J.F. McCellan, E.R. Ingham and D.C. Coleman. (1986). Filter-out grazers (FOG): A filtration experiment for separating protozoan grazers in soil. Biol. Fert. Soil 1:73-79. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]14. Ingham, E.R., J.A. Trofymow, R.N. Ames, H.W. Hunt, C.R. Morley, J.C. Moore and D.C. Coleman. (1986). Trophic interactions and nitrogen cycling in a semiarid grassland soil. Part I. Seasonal dynamics of the natural populations, their interactions and effects on nitrogen cycling. J. Applied Ecology 23:597-614. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]15. Ingham, E.R., J.A. Trofymow, R.N. Ames, H.W. Hunt, C.R. Morley, J.C. Moore and D.C. Coleman. (1986). Trophic interactions and nitrogen cycling in a semiarid grassland soil. Part II. System responses to removal of different groups of soil microbes or fauna. J. Applied Ecology 23:615-630. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]16. Hunt, H.W., D.C. Coleman, E.R. Ingham, R.E. Ingham, E.T. Elliott, J.C. Moore, C.P.P. Reid and C.R. Morley. (1987). The detrital food web in a shortgrass prairie. Biol. Fert. Soil 3:57-68. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]17. Moore, J.C., E.R. Ingham and D.C. Coleman. (1987). Inter- and intraspecific feeding selectivity of Folsomia candida (Willem) (Collembola, Isotomidae) on fungi: Method development and ecological consequences. Biol. Fert. Soil 5:6-12. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]18. Ingham, E.R. and K.A. Horton. (1987). Bacterial, fungal and protozoan responses to chloroform fumigation in stored prairie soil. Soil Biol. Biochem. 19:545-550. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]19. Coleman, D.C. and E.R. Ingham. (198. Carbon, nitrogen, phosphorus and sulfur cycling in terrestrial ecosystems. Biogeochemistry 5:3-6. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]20. Hunt, H.W., E.R. Ingham, D.C. Coleman, E.T. Elliott and C.P.P. Reid. (198. Nitrogen limitation of decomposition and primary production in shortgrass, mountain meadow and lodgepole pine forest. Ecology 69:1009-1016. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]21. Carpenter, S.E., M.E. Harmon, E.R. Ingham, R.G. Kelsey, J.D. Latin and T.D. Schowalter. (198. Early patterns of heterotroph activity in conifer logs. Proc. Roy. Soc. Edinburgh 94B:33-43. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]22. Ingham, E.R., M.V. Wilson and C.D. McIntire. (198. Social and economic concerns with respect to the choice of critical terrestrial ecosystems. USEPA. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]23. Cromack, K., Jr., B.L. Fichter, A.M. Moldenke and E.R. Ingham. (1989). Interactions between soil animals and ectomycorrhizal fungal mats. Agric. Ecosyst. Environ. 24:155-169. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]24. Ingham, E.R., D.C. Coleman and J.C. Moore. (1989). Analysis of food-web structure and function in a shortgrass prairie, a mountain meadow and lodgepole pine forest. Biol. Fertil. Soils 8:29-37. [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]25. Stamatiadis, S., J.W. Doran and E.R. Ingham. (1990). Use of staining and inhibitors to separate fungal and bacterial activity in soil. Soil Biol. Biochem. 22:81-88. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]26. Coleman, D.C., E.R. Ingham and J.C. Moore. (1990). An across ecosystem analysis of seasonal effects and faunal reduction on decomposition in a semiarid prairie, meadow, and lodgepole pine forest. Pedobiologia 34:207-219. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]27. Ingham, E.R., R. Griffiths, K. Cromack and J.A. Entry. (1991). Comparison of direct versus fumigation incubation microbial biomass estimates in ectomycorrhizal mat and non-mat soils. Soil Biol. Biochem. 23:465-472. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]28. Lodge, D.J. and E.R. Ingham. (1991). A comparison of agar film techniques for estimating fungal biovolumes in litter and soil. Agric. Ecosyst. Environ. 5:31-37. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]29. Ingham, E.R. and R. Molina. 1991. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Interactions between mycorrhizal fungi, rhizosphere organisms, and plants. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Pages 169-197 in [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Microorganisms, Plants and Herbivores[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman], P. Barbosa (ed). John Wiley and Sons, NY. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]30. Griffiths, R.P., E.R. Ingham, B.A. Caldwell, M.A. Castellano and K. Cromack, Jr. (1991). Microbial characteristics of ectomycorrhizal mat communities in Oregon and California. Biology and Fertility of Soils 11:14-20. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]31. Ingham, E.R., D.C. Coleman, R. Parmelee and D.A. Crossley. (1991). Reduction of microbial and faunal groups following application of streptomycin and captan in Georgia no-till agroecosystems. Pedobiologia 35:297-304. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]32. Ingham, E.R., W.G. Thies, D.L. Luoma, A.R. Moldenke and M.A. Castellano. 1991. Bioresponse of nontarget organisms resulting from the use of chloropicrin to control laminated root rot in a northwest Conifer forest. Evaluation of bio-responses. pp. 85-90. USEPA Special Publ. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]33. Ingham, E.R. (1993). The functional significance and regulation of soil biodiversity: An executive summary of the Soil Ecology Society meeting. Soil Ecology Society Newsletter 5:2-9. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]34. Klopatek, C.C., E.G. O'Neill, D.W. Freckman, C.D. Bledsoe, D.A. Coleman, D.A. Crossley, Jr., E.R. Ingham, D. Parkinson and J.M. Klopatek. (1993). The sustainable biosphere initiative: A commentary from the U.S. Soil Ecology Society. Bulletin of the Ecological Soc. of America. 73:223-228. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]35. Colinas, C., E. Ingham and R. Molina. (1994). Population responses of target and non-target forest-soil organisms to selected biocides. Soil Biol. Biochem. 26:41-48. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]36. Ingham, E.R. 1994. Soil Organisms and Forest Health. Pages 12-15 in Headwaters Journal, Spring (1994). [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]37. Ingham, E.R. 1994. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Soil Protozoa. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Agronomy Society of America. In [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Methods in Agronomy[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman], P. Bottomley (ed). Agronomy Soc. Am. [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]38. Ingham, E.R., D.C. Coleman, and D.A. Crossley, Jr. (1994). Use of Sulfamethoxazole-Penicillin, Oxytetracycline, Carbofuran, Carbaryl, Napthalene and Temik to Remove Key Organism Groups in Soil in a Corn Agroecosystem. J. Sustain. Agric. 4(3):7-30. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]39. Ingham, E.R. and H. Massicotte. (1994). Protozoan communities around conifer roots colonized by ectomycorrhizal fungi. Mycorrhiza. 5:53-61. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]40. Ingham, E.R., J.D. Doyle and C.W. Hendricks. (1995). Assessing interactions between soil food web and a strain of Pseudomonas putida genetically engineered to degrade 2,4-D. Applied Soil Ecology. 2:263-274. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]41. Ingham, E.R. and A. Moldenke. 1995. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Microflora and Microfauna on Stems and Trunks: Diversity, Food Webs and Effects on Plants[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]. pp. 241-256. in Gartner, B. Plant Stems. Academic Press, NY [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]42. Ingham, E.R. and W.G. Thies. (1996). Soil foodweb responses in the first year following clearcutting and chloropicrin application to a mature Douglas-fir forest to control laminated root rot. Applied Soil Ecol. 3:35-47. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]43. Rygiewicz, P.T. and E.R. Ingham. (1997) Soil Biology and Ecology. IN Fairbridge, R.W. and D.E. Alexander (eds) Encyclopedia of Environmental Science. Van Nostrand Reinhold. NY. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]44. Sances, F.V. and E.R. Ingham. (1997). Conventional and organic alternatives to methyl bromide on California strawberries: Effect of Brassica residues and spent mushroom compost following successive chemical fumigation. Compost Science and Utilization. 5: 23-37. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]45. Griffiths, R.P., J.A. Entry, E.R. Ingham, and W.H. Emmingham. (1997). Chemistry and microbial activity of forest and pasture riparian-zone soils along three Pacific Northwest streams. Plant and Soil 190:169-178. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]46. Ingham, E.R. and W. Thies. (1997). Changes in rhizosphere microflora and microfauna 10 years following Douglas-fir live tree injection with chloropicrin or methylisothiocynate. Can. Jr. For Res. 27:724-731. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]47. Hendricks, C.W., M.T. Holmes and E.R. Ingham. (199. Foodweb methodology to assess ecological effects of anthropogenic stressors in soil. Trends in Soil Science. 2:181-189. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]48. Massicote, H.B., L.E. Takaberry, E.R. Ingham, and W.G. Thies. (199. Ectomycorrhizae establishment on Douglas-fir seedlings following chloropicrin treatment to control laminated-root rot disease: Assessment of 4 and 5 years after outplanting. Appl. Soil Ecol. 10:117-126. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]49. Ingham, E.R. and J.Barlow. (199. Sustainable Agriculture and the Ecology of Soil. Perspectives on Business and Global Change. 12:31-42. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]50. Ingham, E.R. (199. Soil organisms and their role in healthy turf. Turf Grass Trends. 7:1-6. [/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]51. Ingham, E.R. 1998. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Soil Protozoa. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Pages 114-131 in [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Principles and Applications of Soil Microbiology, [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]in Sylvia, D. and Hartel, P. Soil Microbiology:Environmental and Agricultural Perspectives. Oxford University Press. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]52. Edmonds Institute (10 authors). 1998. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The Biosafety Handbook. [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Edmonds Institute, Bellingham, WA [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]53. Ingham, E.R, Seiter, S., and R.D. William. (1999). Dynamics of soil fungal and bacterial biomass in a temperate climate alley cropping system. Appl. Soil Ecol. 12: 39-147. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]54. Wilson, M.V. and E.R. Ingham. (1999). Mycorrhizal requirements of six wetlands herbaceous plant species. Mycorrhiza. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]55. Doyle, J.D., Hendricks, C.W., Holmes, M.T., and E.R. Ingham. (1999). Effects of [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Klebsiella planticola [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]SDF20 on soil biota and wheat growth in sandy soil. Appl. Soil Ecol. Vol. 11, issue 1: 67-78. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]56. Rygiewicz, P.T., and E.R. Ingham. 1999. Soil biology and Ecology. Pages 564-567 in R.W. Fairbridge and D.E. Alexander, editors. Encyclopedia of Environmental Science, Kluwer Academic Publishers, Dordrecht, The Netherlands. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]57. Ingham, E. R. (1999). The Soil Biology Primer. Chapter 1. The Soil Food Web. NRCS Soil Quality Insitute, USDA. 48 pp. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]58. Ingham, E. R. (1999). The Soil Biology Primer. Chapter 2. Soil Bacteria. NRCS Soil Quality Institute, USDA. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]59. Ingham, E. R. (1999). The Soil Biology Primer. Chapter 3. Soil Fungi. NRCS Soil Quality Institute. USDA. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]60. Ingham, E. R. (1999). The Soil Biology Primer. Chapter 4. Soil Protozoa. NRCS Soil Quality Institute. USDA. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]61. Ingham, E. R. (1999). The Soil Biology Primer. Chapter 5. Soil Nematodes. NRCS Soil Quality Institute. USDA. [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]62. Ingham, E. R. and M. Alms. 1999 [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The Compost Tea Handbook 1.1 [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]63. Ingham, E. R. 2000 [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The Compost Tea Brewing Manual[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman], Sustainable Studies Institute, Eugene, OR. 60 pp …. Editions 2 through 5 in 2002, 2003, 2004, and 2005 [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]64. Ingham, E. R. 2004 [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Compost Tea Quality: Light Microscope Methods[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman], Soil Foodweb Inc, Corvallis, Oregon 47pp [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]65. Ingham, E. R. 2004 [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The Field Guide for Actively Aerated Compost Tea (AACT)[/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman], Soil Foodweb Inc, Corvallis, Oregon 178pp [/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]66. Ingham, E. R. (2004). The Soil Food Web: Its Role in Ecosystems Health: The Overstory Book Cultivating Connections with Trees 2nd Edition; Editor Craig R. Elevitch. [/FONT]
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[DrFever]

for what its worth most Mj plants are grown and done before you really have to start fcking with micro organism
what i think most people that use molases see better results and why
when they should of only added 1/4 teaspoon of epsom salt do the same dam thing

 

[DrFever]

An increase in enzyme concentration means that more enzymes are available to perform a specific task. If the enzymes are transforming a substrate into a specific product, the increased number of enzymes will produce quicker results. At a certain point, though, the number of enzymes outnumber the number of available substrate molecules, with which the enzymes are reacting, in order to change the substrate. At this point, the reaction cannot be sped up any further, indicating the optimum enzyme concentration has occurred.

 

[T Ray]

for what its worth most Mj plants are grown and done before you really have to start fcking with micro organism
what i think most people that use molases see better results and why
when they should of only added 1/4 teaspoon of epsom salt do the same dam thing

Not in organic supersoil. You have to have active micro-life to breakdown the compounds to an available form to feed the plants b/c you only use water. That is why the sugars are so important at the end. It gives the micro's that quick boost needed to finish the plants.

 

[T Ray]

Thank you Zuuv. Now what were you saying again about her credentials Jogro???

 

[DrFever]

Not in organic supersoil. You have to have active micro-life to breakdown the compounds to an available form to feed the plants b/c you only use water. That is why the sugars are so important at the end. It gives the micro's that quick boost needed to finish the plants.

Yea ok there on organic soils its already broken down the plant produces sugar you ever here of sugar leafs ???? what i am trying to say here is?? most growers will never really have to worry about this reason is they grow there plants and flower them well befroe you used or wasted all of the soil compounds thats already in there
trust me i know ) to finsih plants its all time and giving them the food they need most nutrients have micro nutrients in them
secrets to big harvests is knowing what and when to give them additives like zinc/ iron foilage sprays and most important knowing how to water your plants ) i yield with my eyes closed 1160 dry grams per 1000 watt my goals are to hit 1250 per 1000 watt this year ) and its not from adding molases hahaha

 

[DrFever]

also would like to show you ray i am growing in MG organic soil with food in it doin a experiment heres day 21 veg plants are 30" tall 1550 ppm of C02 added everyday now as well as 1250 ppm of nutrients given on top of the food already in soil ) under 5000 watts now goin on 4th day in flower added wattage total power is 8000 watts