PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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Anyone ever watch " Death wish...",,,he was like a vigilantie,,,That was great growing up as a child!
Absolutely, if you have the training and the capability of taking down a maniac like this to protect your own life and others around you, more power to you!so instead of just the bad guys shooting people, the good guys will join in now?
make sense to me.
you don't need training and capability to buy a gun. just about any fool can own one. where is the line drawn that separates the good guys from the bad guys?Absolutely, if you have the training and the capability of taking down a maniac like this to protect your own life and others around you, more power to you!
Than why does everyone,,,Except you in court,,,Carry a Gun,,,What happened to good old fashion shoot out's like in the old western's?you don't need training and capability to buy a gun. just about any fool can own one. where is the line drawn that separates the good guys from the bad guys?
we have courts of law for a reason.
The courts didn't stop this guy, did they?we have courts of law for a reason.
"me in court"?Than why does everyone,,,Except you in court,,,Carry a Gun,,,What happened to good old fashion shoot out's like in the old western's?
Not Me?,,,I target shoot,,,Was a Infintry trained Marine,,,Shoot a lot and still do. Not at anyone,,,There are Law's and regulation's,,,of owning fire arm's,,,At least where I am.,,,and other place's I know getting caught with an illegal firearm will get you a mandetory 5 year's,,,But Yes i support Responsable people being able to own fire arms ...,,,If not the Bad guy's do?,,,Id only shoot to kill if I was being Robbed within' death,,,or you break into my house,,,But i would save someone if I Had to in a similar life threatining situation."me in court"?
what?
so do you only shoot someone when they are shooting others?
do you shoot bank robbers?
if you saw someone trying to push a girl into a car would you shot them?
dog attacks, shot the dog?
drunk driver on the freeway, shot out the tires?
i'm trying to get a point out there. is anybody getting it?
I understand your point, but I'm not talking about chasing drunk drivers down the freeway or shooting dogs that look like they might attack someone. Of course those situations are better left for the police to handle."me in court"?
what?
so do you only shoot someone when they are shooting others?
do you shoot bank robbers?
if you saw someone trying to push a girl into a car would you shot them?
dog attacks, shot the dog?
drunk driver on the freeway, shot out the tires?
i'm trying to get a point out there. is anybody getting it?
to each his own judgement. just because you may know that you shouldn't shoot the drunk driver, others may feel it necessary. the only way to distinguish the difference is to leave it to the proper authorities.I understand your point, but I'm not talking about chasing drunk drivers down the freeway or shooting dogs that look like they might attack someone. Of course those situations are better left for the police to handle.
What I am talking about is being in a place where an individual decides he is going to shoot anyone in sight indiscriminately like this maniac did, and there is nobody there to save your own life but yourself.
Running for the door or hiding under a table and hoping for the best doesn't always save your life, just like in this incident.
Myself, I feel a lot safer having a weapon on me that gives me the capability of returning deadly force if I am in fear of my life.
In Fl, it has gotten me out of driving tickets, not even carrying, him just seeing my card. I was like no way! haha.. they respect you more because you dont have any warrants or have never had felonies.do police harass you when you have your ccw and carry a gun????
That has to be the dumbest statement I've ever heard when talking about these kinds of situations...nobody needs to shoot anyone. just learn to hide better.
How about there not even being guns, seems that is the obvious and overlooked answer, desperation is fueled by many things.Police investigate California salon shooting:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/10/13/justice/california-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
I'm not saying that EVERYONE should carry a weapon, but I have had quite a bit of firearm training and I am very comfortable carrying one. Do I go out everyday looking to be a hero? No, but I would attempt to protect myself in a situation like this and I feel like everyone in that salon would have been grateful if someone managed to take out this idiot quickly. Even if someone attempted to return fire and was unsuccessful at taking him down, it may have been enough to make the suspect flee and at the same time save lives.
These sort of shootings are becoming more and more common these days, and in my opinion, if more people were properly trained and carried weapons it would make some of these people think twice before committing an act like this.
I'm sure some will disagree, but I choose to arm myself as I will do everything in my power to NOT fall victim to some homicidal maniac like this.
Eight people were killed in this incident. May the victims RIP!
A 12 ga shotgun will not penetrate a modern type III bullet resistant vest - not even a rifled or sabot slug can do that. Same for the AK - the 7.62 x 39 projectile is pretty frangible & again, will not penetrate a reasonably modern type III vest.People run around with ak's and sawed offs,if by some miracle it dont go through you'll probably end up with broken ribs and collapsed lungs.
Every heard of the Second Amendment ? yeah.. that shit is untouchable by law.. silly how we forget.well i guess canadian criminals aren't worth a damn because american criminals will just get a gun on the streets and wipe their ass with the permit application. lol @ gun restrictions keeping guns out of criminal hands. gun restriction only keeps guns from law abiding people, just like cannabis prohibition only stops squares from smoking (people who wouldn't touch the stuff in the first place).
OR, now hear me out on this one, stop selling guns to fucking idiots. Hell you need a special permit here in Canada to own a hand gun. If you get mugged here, it'll probably be by knife or just nothing at all. Restrict the fuck out of guns. Only thing a civilian should own is a shot gun or a rifle.