Is Democracy a fools paradise?

[UncleBuck]

Who mentioned jews you .........apart from you? - Is that all you think about, you need to get a life old boy?

Very good, i'm sure israel is suitably grateful. Brag, brag and brag again, meanwhile American boys are still dying for israel.

I am sure that the 'certain group of people' you talk about is composed of astronauts no one here is as dumb as you seem to give us credit for

 

[Brick Top]

But what about the leaders of our political paties and therefore governments also, don't you think that party leaders are to blame, in the firt place?

They don't elect themselves, do they?

The problem is an ignorant electorate that doesn't educate themselves on the important issues and on the candidates and who instead decides who to vote for based on 20 sound bites, propagandistic mainstream media headlines and who they 'like' and what candidate their union or special interest group or political party they belong to tells them to vote for rather than voting who they think would be best for the job.

In the U.S. the presidency has long since become a popularity contest. It started with JFK but didn't become an every election thing until Carter.

 

[ralf]

no one here is as dumb as you seem to give us credit for

Well no one except one of you.

 

[ralf]

The problem is an ignorant electorate that doesn't educate themselves on the important issues

What do you see as the important issues?

and who instead decides who to vote for based on 20 sound bites,

I understand you up to a point, but is is Impossible to know when a politician is lying, just look at Blair, what a dirty zioniosts traitorous lying b-stard was that, he fooled countless millions, although I have to say that he did not fool me.


The important thing to remember when dealing with politicians is, its not always what they says, so much as what he doesn’t say. That’s the way I rated Blair from the off.

I stopped voting labour when that Scum bag Blair got got control of the Labour Party and its widely excepted that Mandelson was the brains of the bunch, he was the one who organised the stealing of the Labour party. And what is Mandelson?

 

[newworldicon]

I heard something regarding France and Germany trying to break up the EU on TV tonight but i had visitors and could hear it properly, is this a real possibility do you know? I hope to G-d that they do, perhaps Britain can then reclaim our independence.

As you say, regarding the Blackmail of British MP's, that is hardly Democracy in action, in fact the creation of the EU itself is an insult to the name of Democracy.

We British got a referendum in 1975 on joining Europe, but on a trade only basis.

So i would then ask, is it just coincidence that every government since that time, both Labour and Conservative, have all thrown us deeper and deeper in to Europe?

Every Prime minister of both parties since 1975 have all been Pro Europe. What are the odds on that being just coincidence?

Even today we have all three party leaders, Conservative, Labour and Liberal, all supporting the EU option. That would make it even more unlikely to be just coincidence.

To sum that up, every party leader for over 35 years..ish + all three party leaders now being Europhiles, looks to me, to be too much of a coincidence.
While i willingly admit, that i am no mathematician or statistician, I would say looking at things realistically, it could well be that our so called Democracy, is quite likely not a Democracy at all.

And there are a few more points that could indicate that Democracy, just might be the biggest con job, the world has ever known.

But what do you guys think, am i paranoid? Am i just fooling my self?

It was about Germany and France simply trying to repackage/re-brand the EU....

 

[ralf]

Thanks for that newworldicon, i appreciate you posting that information. I have just seen an article somewhere, although i cant remember where, saying that the British foreign office is preparing for riots in Europe WHEN they happen, not IF they happen, it kinda looks like the smelly brown stuff could be hitting the fan over there shortly.

I wonder what they know, that we don't know, i guess we will have to wait and see.

 

[RyanTheRhino]

I think a government with 3 short term presidents would work the best. With a longer term council of 9 beneath them to act as a balance of power.


All matters would be decided by a 2/3 vote from the presidents. The council would have no say on what is voted on only that they must have a majority vote to make it become law.


Basically its the same as US's government except smaller & in reverse

 

[tomahawk2406]

They don't elect themselves, do they?

The problem is an ignorant electorate that doesn't educate themselves on the important issues and on the candidates and who instead decides who to vote for based on 20 sound bites, propagandistic mainstream media headlines and who they 'like' and what candidate their union or special interest group or political party they belong to tells them to vote for rather than voting who they think would be best for the job.

In the U.S. the presidency has long since become a popularity contest. It started with JFK but didn't become an every election thing until Carter.

thats a plague that i still don't think we'll really get passed. the media is such a powerful tool.

 

[Cali chronic]

I once talked about Democracy and then was told I am an idealist...I asked "What do you mean by that?" The Reply "You would like things to be done in a perfect world" I took that to heart. I say, No; there is no Democracy for the people. It is a Democracy of our money, by 530 odd men and woman. With their own special agendas and pet Lobbyists.

 

[sso]

..lol, perfect world.

this is the most boring scumsucking infested piece of shit in the cosmos.

most utterly pointless place in the heavens there exists.

and its all so because of the insane position jockeying monkeys.

fat shits in suits can push you around the way the want and you cant do shit but whine about better lubricants or lack of them.

and its just a ridiculous scenario, cause ya still hold the ass up in the air, only in hopes of getting to rape someone else yourself later. thats the only thing holding ya down.

fucking slaves.