2nd attempt at 1st grow...problems again :-(

lime73

Weed Modifier
I had to read back a few pages here...I'm so confused now? i see soil ,then hyrdoton, now soil again...lol
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
I don't want to start feeding them for awhile, though, right? The soil has worm castings among other amendments, they should be ok for a few weeks.took some pics, oh and each one got a gentle root soak in thrive alive (it says to use during transplant to avoid shock) I just did a few ml per gallon, then planted them...all the roots were long and branchy and white, except 1...had some almost orange color on one root, but thinking it may be because that root was lying against the orange'ish pebbles? it didn't come off from their quick soak b4 transplant, hope they are ok...took pics...a couple have spots on the leaves...I did trim them a tad, like bubble #4 had it's first set of leaves really funky deformed, so I removed them, just a snip with the fingernail...and the original 2 leaves that come out were turning yellow on a couple, so I took em off..I hate bad looking leaves! They have a LOT of bunchy growth between leaf sets, I guess that's what they call tight nodal spacing(wondering..)??
OK so now this is an organic soil grow...man how things can change in a day round this place!!!
Anyone venture a guess at the spots?
Thanks, have a wonderful night..I'm going to load my bong and finish watching season 1 of "Lie to me"....yeah...free time again!!






so these are in soil...organic. right?

ph for soil should be 6.5 .... not 5.8. this level is for hydro.

which threw me off cause you had them in hydroton balls which is for hydro( soil-less set up)

ph is kept at different levels depending which your using.
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
you are making them cal/mg and P deficient by keeping levels below 6.5.

there im back on track now..lol
 

matthebrute

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you are making them cal/mg and P deficient by keeping levels below 6.5.

there im back on track now..lol
your still lost, i think his soil is at 7.0. his ebb n flow system was failing and become a full time job to keep working so he transplnted to soil to try and cut down on the work load while he gets his hydro system working. i think its 7.0 if i remember correctly wich is fine if im not mistaken :)
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
your still lost, i think his soil is at 7.0. his ebb n flow system was failing and become a full time job to keep working so he transplnted to soil to try and cut down on the work load while he gets his hydro system working. i think its 7.0 if i remember correctly wich is fine if im not mistaken
i was lost yes....had to read everything again...but i know now.
 

matthebrute

Well-Known Member
and newb. nevermind the spots for now, if they start getting worse we will deal with it but for now.........

dont add any nutes. just some good water, if you use city tap let it sit out for a day to get rid of any chlorine. they will tell you when they need nutes, with the worm castings and other ammendments you should be fine for over 2 weeks, but monitor them and make sure your not getting deficient.

i mean no offense when i say this man but i think you just try way too hard. :) now that they are in soil admire em but just leave them be. they might become a bit wilty, a light mistwill help keep them hydrated while they transition to the soil and stress from the transplant.

keep them pics rolling will stay tuned to help and if i cant i will do my best to help keep em alive, your gonna get a harvest :)
 

newwb

Active Member
First off, I was in hydro but my ebb& grow is a mess and needs sent back, matt suggested I just plunk them in soil...and so glad I did, no more worries..and I am not a he, I am a she, lol..but that's kewl, were all anonymous here, lol
You two have been great with helping me get through this, honerstly, I'd a been pulling my hair out another week with my busted hydro setup.
I have the complete foxfarm line, including the bacteria stuff (scares the hell out of me now) Though I HAVE used ff microbrew and kangaroots and it didn't kill my plants!
So I had these guy a bit high on hydro you think, at 550 ish PPM?
The soil they are in should have enough nutes to carry them a couple weeks...maybe more, I will keep watch (its what I do best, lol) for any signs of trouble, and will update what is going on with my girls...and thank you, I would LOVE to make a harvest!!!!! And thank you both for taking on and offering so much help to this newb!
Blessings, and happy growin!!
 

newwb

Active Member
and yes I am trying too hard, I need to relax and let the plants be...so they can grow!!! and do what these plants do, which is get big sticky budz on them!!! And I can hardly wait!!!!!
Thank you both soooo much!!
 

matthebrute

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550ppm is a lil strong for seedlings. i think 250-300 is where you want it for that stage but again im no hydro guy so no clue just what i gather here :)

sorry thought you were a dude, my B
 

newwb

Active Member
yes my soil consistently stayed at 7 before with the now dead plants, even when I'd make the water/nutes say 6.4..to try and make it sl more acidic, (everyplace I read says 7 is ok, yet I had PH prob looking leaves before) but the soil stayed at 7 the whole 2 months..My one grow book says 6.8 is ideal 4 soil...so I don't know why it stays at 7...guess it is what it is...a bit of dolomite lime, that will make it slightly more acidic if I read right...we'll see...
Do you guys veg 24 or 18/6...these girlys where on 18/6 with the MH 1000 watt (more for my power bills sake) but the T-5 is a LOT cheaper to run, thought maybe I would give them 24 for awhile, or will that add to the stress I already put them through today?
 

newwb

Active Member
so what ppm in soil do you use at 3-4 weeks, do you bump them up when they start looking def. or just do it by size/week they are in?
 

newwb

Active Member
Oh and I am on a well...community well but still a well, PH runs anywhere from 6.8-7.6 depending on how much it has been raining...and it's ppm is 50...pretty awesome water!!
 

lime73

Weed Modifier
with a 1000w mh 18/6 is ideal...t5 on the other hand can be any cycle 18/6 20/4 or even 24/0.

i figured you were female ;)

soil 7.0 ph is great! ...i run my water/nutes at 6.5
 

matthebrute

Well-Known Member
ph of 6.8 is fine dont raise it any. if anything it can go down from 7.0 but 7.0 is usually fine...if you want perfect PH i think 6.5????

also hell yeah run that T5 system for vegg, keep it nice and close but run it for a few weeks less on the power bill :) 1000w HID is redicules ><
 
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