OK this has been debated a million times I know..but what is the main word now?
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AWnox
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Dude I never said 24/0 doesn't produce decent plants just not as healthy or strong IMO. Besides the only reason that your doing 24/0 is because you use CFL's and you kinda have to with those if you want a more than decent harvest. With a MH you wouldn't even think about 24/0; one because of your light bill and two because it really isn't necessary. 18 hours under a Metal Halide is more than enough to produce even better results than with a 24/0 cycle under CFL's wouldn't you agree?
IMO 24/0 is used because you either want to grow your plant as fast as possible (with no regards to quality and/or quantity) and/or you want to save money on your equipment; but you can NOT compare a 18/6 MH grow with a 24/0 CFL , never ever, I don't care how many pictures you show me, there is NO comparison....IMO
spex420
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oh really cuz my understanding from your clearly opinionated statement was 24/0 stesses the plants makes them stretch and lanky and overall just shit plants...
thats my bloom room i veg under t5
growing under 24/0 has no regard to quality or quantity its just faster
point to this whole thread is which is best i have given scientifically proven facts with every statement you tell me plants don't like it cuz you need sleep so, they do too..
im sure sugars and what not break down "some internal process" occurs during the dark phase but they do not grow without sunlight photo synthesis connot occur period
moral of the story is...
18/6
pros- cheaper e bill cool down time little less stress prolonged life of bulbs
cons- slower growth longer time till maturity is reached therefore longer time till harvest inconsistent room temps (in my room that can mean a difference of 30 degrees)
AWnox
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I still do.
Yeah they need sleep because I do...c'mon man don't be ridiculous. Just the fact that they need to have 12 hours of darkness to begin blooming should tell you the importance of a dark cycle. Plants react to the presence and absence of light, they have been for thousands of years and are designed that way and DO grow better taking both into consideration.
And when do you think it uses all this energy it gets from photosynthesis? You're saying plants do not grow at all during the night??? Grow a couple with a dark cycle then come back see if you say that again.
Moral of your story maybe. Dude your wayyyy off bro. You should really consider trying 18/6 at least once and come back; those pros and cons are absurd to say the least.
I'm done arguing with you, I see it's pointless so I'll agree to disagree. Good luck with your girls.
https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/502496-amnesia-haze-2-weeks-into.html#post6927168
I vegged this plant for 24/0 since halloween (the day of actually) until new years (the day of) and this is what mine looks like (T5 Fluro)
I vegged this plant for 24/0 since halloween (the day of actually) until new years (the day of) and this is what mine looks like (T5 Fluro)
Harrekin
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Light doesn't make the plants grow you spanner, the plant uses sunlight to combine carbon, hydrogen and oxygen into carbohydrates which when broken down through respiration give the plant the energy it needs to grow. While its true that plants cant produce carbohydrates at night, it certainly can respire and as such can grow.
I guess the "science" you presented was bullshit?
RevelationX1
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Preference!! Aye!!
spex420
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oh really cuz my understanding from your clearly opinionated statement was 24/0 stesses the plants makes them stretch and lanky and overall just shit plants...
i don't think you have any idea what your talking about let me break it down one more time... i will try to talk slow so those of you who for lack of a better word are fuck tards can understand plants only grow with sunlight this is called photo synthesis
everyone understand ? good moving on...
spex420
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i do grow 18/6 in the first 3 weeks of a fresh crop i run my lights 18/6 while "asleep" everything absorbed by leaves is stored and during a night cycle ( really called a CALVIN CYCLE), the plant transports these molecules to the roots and the main stalk. this promotes root growth. essentially emptying the stored up carbs in each leaf and allowing for new production to take place during the next light cycle
after about 3 weeks i switch to 24/0 transplant in airpots and let them flourish till they are rdy for the bloom room
yeah she's 37 in. right now and my closet is about 7 or 8 ft. high so i hope she has enough room!!!
AWnox
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If you known and use the dark cycle what's your beef with it then bro? xD
How long do you veg for then?? I do it backwards than you. I tend to run my 250W MH (at least 3 feet from medium) from seed at 24/0 until she's about a week old (sometimes only 3-5 days) then I bring down the light to about a foot and run it's 18/6 cycle for about a month or so (4 weeks max, depending if I top or LST and such); by this time she's usually anywhere from 10-12 inches high and ready for flowering. I only run hydroponics using a GH Waterfarm and GH Flora Nova Bloom from start to finish.
spex420
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i veg for about 4-5 weeks depending on whats growing i like to prune the shit outta my plants have multiple tops and evenything perfect so when it enters the bloom room i don't need to do any cutting or pruning
reason being the first 2 to 3 weeks (only done it 3 weeks norm just 2 was growing nl x hz veg took forever) the plants are tender and brittle everything i start i give a bitch type treatment fans super low low nutes by the time they are rdy for bloom fans are on full blast nuking the shit outta em with nutes and lights are on 24/0 so they are stong enough to hold the fat juicy nugs they are about to grow
the extra light is a waste in the begging imo for years iv tried too many different variations but they only grow as fast as they grow plus extra root growth for the first two weeks is a bonus
reason being the first 2 to 3 weeks (only done it 3 weeks norm just 2 was growing nl x hz veg took forever) the plants are tender and brittle everything i start i give a bitch type treatment fans super low low nutes by the time they are rdy for bloom fans are on full blast nuking the shit outta em with nutes and lights are on 24/0 so they are stong enough to hold the fat juicy nugs they are about to grow
the extra light is a waste in the begging imo for years iv tried too many different variations but they only grow as fast as they grow plus extra root growth for the first two weeks is a bonus
i have tied a few branches down. i'm more worried about it getting wider than taller!
welshsmoker
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i have grown one or two plants boys, this is not a scientific fact this is fucking fact, 24/0 no stretch tight node spacing happy days. 18/6 20/4 or what ever induces stretchier plants with more space between nodes and that is a fact.
MastaSmoker
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I use 18/6 because the way i see it, the 6 hours of darkness, is like the end of the day, when you get home from work.
IT IS THE BEST TIME OF DAY.
IT IS THE BEST TIME OF DAY.