trayvan martin

[Mindmelted]

http://trayvon.tk/

Aw look how responsible and well mannered he looks.
Sure he was a outstanding citizen and all.!!!
Did he even belong in the gated community ?
All the above are honest questions....

 

[bundee1]

All true. It is terrible this happened. Many have also died in the Mid East and continue to die. Both innocents and patriots who are ordered to be there risking their lives for political gain of others. Corporations making large profits from the war line politicians pockets. Where is the public outrage over that? Media spins the direction we go. The Florida authorities are corrupt as they failed to act swiftly and investigate this young mans death objectively. leo kills me, there to protect the public and the public always is someone else who they are not with at the time.

So a black citizen isnt allowed to feel threatened by an unidentified armed man pursuing him in an unmarked vehicle?
Again most of you have never been in Trayvons position and never will be and im sure you wouldnt conduct yourself with the blatant disregard for protocol and common sense Zimmerman did. ?
No one here would say they would have done exactly what Zimmerman did. No one here is that dumb so why defend it?

 

[cliffey501]

if u puposly back yerself into a corner and the can be percieved as lethal(in yer mind)...You now the the (near)right to pummel them into a perminent coma(were cop wanna-bees belong)....throw in god to the wanna-be mix and i think death and coma to good for a self righteous loozer with a cell fone....maby cutting off body parts to use to lube the barrel of the old 303 u gonna pop the fukker with.

Ok Im having trouble reading through this slop of poop you call a reply but i think your saying trayvon backed himself into a corner purposely so he could feel threatened and then have the right to pummel zimmermen into a coma?

 

[londonfog]

funny thing is the people who vote Republican are the ones saying how Zimmerman may have been in the right. very telling

 

[RoninAmok]

Perhaps somewhere, anywhere in this thread you can find a single insult from me, go ahead see if you can find one. The only ones flinging insults are the ones who are losing the debate.

No they aren't , and as for your insults , want me to go back through EVERY one of your posts and highlight your insulting examples of self superior smugness?

And what " debate" is that? The one where a human got snuffed by a borderline sociopathic control freak Bully who shouldn't have been allowed to own a firearm.............THAT debate? You were never in said " debate: beyond a buncha mindless caterwauling.

 

[cliffey501]

'From the clips that I’ve heard online, I heard George. That sounded like someone who was in dire need of help. It sounded like George.'-Joe Oliver

However, several people who witnessed the deadly shooting last month said the shrieks were that of a teenager.
But Mr Oliver, who has known Zimmerman for the better part of a decade, insisted that the cries were those of someone seeking help, and added that in the duration of their friendship, has not seen the man with a Peruvian mother and white father acting in a racist manner.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2120096/Trayvon-Martin-case-Friend-Zimmerman-identifies-Neighbourhood-Watch-captain-screaming-help-911-call.html#ixzz1q9QSL8Tp​

 

[RoninAmok]

funny thing is the people who vote Republican are the ones saying how Zimmerman may have been in the right. very telling

And that's a bullshit cheap shot aimed at those folks and is just as much of a sterotype as all the other ones flying about here in this thread.

 

[RoninAmok]

Audio recordings can be misleading. Zimmer was obviously a turd by his initial acts, chasing the guy down. But if my own life were at stake I wuldnt want it hanging on an audio recording alone. Eyewitness testimony and other factors that we can not know yet have to be examined. Rushing to judgement when a mans life is at stake is a bad idea. If he is guilty it will come out through the investigation. If so he will most likely get what he has coming. Even the smallest thread of possibility he is innocent should be looked at before we kill another man falsely accused.

I completely agree with the above , what I DON'T agree with is the trend by some within this thread to make an attempt to vilfy the victim based upon race , dress and the other assorted nebulous criteria , along with the assortment of apples to oranges bullshit comparisons.........." if a car was following you on the freeway"...............now how R I D I C U LOU S of a reach is THAT one.

A buncha bullshit semantical gyrations and hyperbole to attempt to defend the indefensible.

 

[londonfog]

And that's a bullshit cheap shot aimed at those folks and is just as much of a sterotype as all the other ones flying about here in this thread.

Its the truth..show me how I'm wrong. I'm willing to admit error.. Everyone who has said on this forum that Zimmerman may have been in the right votes Republican or for a Republican...show me how I'm wrong or admit I'm right

 

[unohu69]

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/326700-full-transcrip​t-zimmerman.html


Read the transcript for yourself...

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

Ill tell you what , bunch of no job having loser life living , wimpy , scared , yellow americans with to much time on there hands , get a life and stay out of others

stay in your lane

So many pathetic people around these days . . . . .Oh no i was robbed, there have been break ins . . . . oh no . .. ..when is someones things ever more important than another mans life, crime or no crime . . . . .you people got it twisted

grown up children crying about there lost teddy bear the neighbor took,

Here s a tip for all you loser americans living in moms basement . . .. . . . lock your doors and windows and stay in side if your afraid of what s outside, you've got the personality of a dead moth

move to the hills get a horse stop bothering people

 

[RoninAmok]

Its the truth..show me how I'm wrong. I'm willing to admit error.. Everyone who has said on this forum that Zimmerman may have been in the right votes Republican or for a Republican...show me how I'm wrong or admit I'm right

REALLY? You'd have all their voting records right in front of ya do ya? Dude , you're more intelligent than that , enough so to have some realisation of just how trying to drag a political soapbox into this makes you look.

ME? I don't give TWO shits or a dried turd about how ANYBODY voted as regards this so-called debate. And quite frankly all the bullshit justifications are exactly that *bullshit* ............WRONG is WRONG period.

In addition , the mere fact that this is even being "debated" bespeaks some exceptionally sick and dark things about our socalled "society" , a human life was already "cheap" in Florida , now it's a step closer to Panamanian or Colombian "cheap"....

And then the absolutely A R R O G A N T assumption by some folks here that *they* have some sort of "right" to follow , question and harass people simply based on whether THEY think said individual is a " dangerous stranger".

See *I* have been followed , been accosted and HAD those questions and been through the ensuing dustups , and yes at times those " dustups" ended violently , a few times VERY much so. If you're following *me* and expect to act like that then YOU BETTER HAVE A BADGE TO SHOW ME......... if not then when you demand that I submit to you THEN we've got a problem , one that isn't going away until you leave me alone.

And just judging from your posts and your words on RIU I'd hazard a guess that you hold fairly similar stance. And here I'll point something out that I'm certain that YOU and UB and certain others will "get" immediately.

That being that this goes far beyond just a " simple murder" , this has a drastically impactive effect on ***BASIC FREEDOMS*** , the Freedom to simply walk where you will in public unmolested and ***without fear*** , the loss of such items being yet another Death Knell of America as We Knew it.


I'll remind folks that there was another historically pivotal politician whose rise to power was dramatically helped by what started as " neighborhood watch" style groups.........

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

dude this guy rocks ^^^^^

and everyone who differs in opinion should go kick rocks

a life is somthing that is very short and fragile, we need to protect life . .. not things

 

[cannabineer]

Ill tell you what , bunch of no job having loser life living , wimpy , scared , yellow americans with to much time on there hands , get a life and stay out of others

stay in your lane

So many pathetic people around these days . . . . .Oh no i was robbed, there have been break ins . . . . oh no . .. ..when is someones things ever more important than another mans life, crime or no crime . . . . .you people got it twisted

grown up children crying about there lost teddy bear the neighbor took,

Here s a tip for all you loser americans living in moms basement . . .. . . . lock your doors and windows and stay in side if your afraid of what s outside, you've got the personality of a dead moth

move to the hills get a horse stop bothering people

There is so much in this post to offend me. I will have you know, good sir, that I have moved up in this world. It's my sister's basement, and my teddy bear looks faaabulous between the water heater and the trapdoor to the compartment where I keep my 29 (or so) guns. cn

 

[RoninAmok]

Ill tell you what , bunch of no job having loser life living , wimpy , scared , yellow americans with to much time on there hands , get a life and stay out of others

stay in your lane

So many pathetic people around these days . . . . .Oh no i was robbed, there have been break ins . . . . oh no . .. ..when is someones things ever more important than another mans life, crime or no crime . . . . .you people got it twisted

grown up children crying about there lost teddy bear the neighbor took,

Here s a tip for all you loser americans living in moms basement . . .. . . . lock your doors and windows and stay in side if your afraid of what s outside, you've got the personality of a dead moth

move to the hills get a horse stop bothering people

Golly , gee whiz...............I mean you Eurotrash are just SOOOO enlightening , and you just know ALL there is to know about this country.

And of course since we're all so " yellow and scared" then YOU will PERSONALLY be right over to show us all " hows to do it" won't ya?

Come on over punk , pick an airport , don't much care which one of the majors. Lemme see here , hows about one that will fit your bullshit sterotypes like Houston , I'll pick your ass up at either InterContinental or Hobby , then I'll drop your ass off in Southeast Houston with a heart monitor as I use for equines , you WALK to downtown without " getting scared" and I'll drop five grand in front of you to take home with ya.

Or hey fly into SF and I'll toss your ass out in Sunnydale or even someplace mild like around Dolores Park , Oakland? BWAHHAHAHAAAAA , you'd piss your pants after two blocks from 92nd going back north..........eastern cities? NYC? Hey meet some nice sections of the Bronx........


In other words *YOU* know " jack shit" about this country , but hey you DO "know Jack" real well dontcha..........

 

[RoninAmok]

a life is somthing that is very short and fragile, we need to protect life . .. not things

Well THAT we agree on , and now we're in a weird paradox , I just ripped you for your stance on " Americans" , and now I find myself probably going to rep you for the above
.


READ that line above folks............Because in the END it's the most applicable and important facet stated within this thread. Life is precious , time is precious.

When either is lost it can NEVER EVER be regained.

 

[londonfog]

REALLY? You'd have all there voting records right in front of ya do ya? Dude , you're more intelligent than that , enough so to have some realisation of just how trying to drag a political soapbox into this makes you look.

ME? I don't give TWO shits or a dried turd about how ANYBODY voted as regards this so-called debate. And quite frankly all the bullshit justifications are exactly that *bullshit* ............WRONG is WRONG period.

In addition , the mere fact that this is even being "debated" bespeaks some exceptionally sick and dark things about our socalled "society" , a human life was already "cheap" in Florida , now it's a step closer to Panamanian or Colombian "cheap"....

And then the absolutely A R R O G A N T assumption by some folks here that *they* have some sort of "right" to follow , question and harass people simply based on whether THEY think said individual is a " dangerous stranger".

See *I* have been followed , been accosted and HAD those questions and been through the ensuing dustups , and yes at times those " dustups" ended violently , a few times VERY much so. If you're following *me* and expect to act like that then YOU BETTER HAVE A BADGE TO SHOW ME......... if not then when you demand that I submit to you THEN we've got a problem , one that isn't going away until you leave me alone.

And just judging from your posts and your words on RIU I'd hazard a guess that you hold fairly similar stance. And here I'll point something out that I'm certain that YOU and UB and certain others will "get" immediately.

That being that this goes far beyond just a " simple murder" , this has a drastically impactive effect on ***BASIC FREEDOMS*** , the Freedom to simply walk where you will in public unmolested and ***without fear*** , the loss of such items being yet another Death Knell of America as We Knew it.


I'll remind folks that there was another historically pivotal politician whose rise to power was dramatically helped by what started as " neighborhood watch" style groups.........

You sure typed a lot without showing me how I was incorrect in my statement...I don't have everyones voting record, but I do have statements on who they will be voting for or not... again show me one person on this political forum who agrees that Zimmerman may have been right..and I can tell you who they will ( or will not ) vote for..either show me proof that I'm incorrect that everyone who said that Zimmerman was correct and standing his ground don't vote for the Republican guy...or admit I'm fucking right...you don't have to like my statement, but it is one that holds truth..my next question would be "why is that" ??????

Edit: I guess I should said and add "every American who thinks Zimmerman may have been right"

 

[Samwell Seed Well]

when peoples lives get trivialized it offends me . . . . .you worry about words and meaning i worry about your soul . . and i am not religous

and i am american born and rased and ya im a little stubborn and harsh

i see it everyday here fear mongering people being reactive fear full animals vs proactive and responsible adults . . . . ..

in my mind at no time is my thing or car or even my life more important then another . . . . . . . . .. . . life is life you either respect it or get in the ditch

and ya i have lived all over this country in nice parts poor parts northern parts southern parts western parts and eastern parts . .. . . . theres a string of words for all the elitist to judge

ive lived in or near most of the cites your speak of lmfao

the people in this country are tools of fear and manipulation . . taught to fear anything for what your imagination might make you think it can do to you

. . i dont own cable but when i watch commercials at friends houses it is apparent that mass manipulation is the name of the game and they are getting good at it . . . the media and politics are no different . . . . .. . . figure it out . . people here have been brainwashed to put there fear on a pedestal vs life


oh and i am a home owner of ten yrs and on the neighborhood association we dont support, vigilantism here , we know people can be petty and mistaken and dubious power or influence as neighborhood watch can bite you in the end, and that is why each neighbor know to be mindful of there own property and respectful of the people that live here and may live here

we encourage diversity where i live and welcome it . . . . . . .. . . . stereotypes and all

 

[Blaze Master]

Well THAT we agree on , and now we're in a weird paradox , I just ripped you for your stance on " Americans" , and now I find myself probably going to rep you for the above
.


READ that line above folks............Because in the END it's the most applicable and important facet stated within this thread. Life is precious , time is precious.

When either is lost it can NEVER EVER be regained.

i'm pretty sure he was just talking about the dicks who were defending zimmermans actions.

 

[londonfog]

I agree with Ronin on must things he say..He just flies off the handle a bit quickly..Hell most times we are saying the same things ( abit differently)