250w HPS Club And Help Guide
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Grazzmon
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Going to plain H2O today on the BM (they'll be ready when I get home) not sure if I want to do the same for the MM, I think I might get an extra week out of them so maybe I can go plain water on them when I get back.. aahh Jamaica for 8 days..hoping to find some Lambsbread mon 
EDIT: I have been advised by my very good friend that plain H2O for 8 days wouldn't be too good for the girls, overflushing, so I will come home and flush... Thanks Doob
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EDIT: I have been advised by my very good friend that plain H2O for 8 days wouldn't be too good for the girls, overflushing, so I will come home and flush... Thanks Doob
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Doobieus
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It's not that it is over flushing really, but more so of the chance of over flushing is the real issue here. I personally wouldn't take that chance, I'd rather have my gals over ripened than flushed to a crisp. I'm sure most would agree to be better safe than sorry, especially this far into the game.EDIT: I have been advised by my very good friend that plain H2O for 8 days wouldn't be too good for the girls, overflushing, so I will come home and flush... Thanks Doob
Grazz
No problem Grazz.
**As for the rest of the posts, I'll take a good read later or tomorrow and reply. I try not to miss a beat, but you know.... life lol. I did skim through some of the posts/pics and great job everyone!! As always keep up the great work clubbers, you're doing a damned fine job. CBT you're always bringing in bud porn yum, always stoked to see your pics. Grazz same with you, those trich shots man just awesome.
GreenGrower14
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well heres a few bud shots shes a little over two weeks old and smelling great
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Matchbox
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Looking great everyone! quality budz Grazz and GG (sorry if I've missed anyone I'm only on this page)
Decided on my next set of nutes to buy, so disregard my previous question, going with AN Jungle Juice 'cause its so cheap! just need a good hydro base line nutrient. Seems this thread has its moments dies for a few days then picks up again lol slow goin XD
Stay Frosty and Keep up the good work!
Decided on my next set of nutes to buy, so disregard my previous question, going with AN Jungle Juice 'cause its so cheap! just need a good hydro base line nutrient. Seems this thread has its moments dies for a few days then picks up again lol slow goin XD
Stay Frosty and Keep up the good work!
Doobieus
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There are a lot of great, easy to use nutes. I haven't used either of those brands but, I do like the nutes you don't have to screw with PH too much. Like GO box or I think it was Advanced Nutes PH perfect line. I have not used Botanicare's line yet but I do know others who use the line, and the results are nice.lol totally a whopping cock! lol not sure if it's the internet though, probably the never ending stream of cock jokes from growing up in the 80's and 90's XD
on an actual question, does anyone have an opinion on Dyna Gro or HESI nutrients for hydro...
I'm considering the HESI Hydro starter kit, with the Grow, Bloom, PK 13/14, Roots Complex, Supervit, Powerzyme. Which is really good for £40, and the reviews are quite good.
OR
Dyna Gro which includes, Dyna Gro Bloom, Dyna Gro All Purpose. For around £30
Either way I plan to get the Advanced Nutrients Big Bud, powder as gram for gram compared to liquid, it makes so many more mixes and it's cheaper than the liquid!
I've heard ridiculous good things about the Dyna Gro stuff but I wonder if it will be enough kind of stims and additives as the HESI mix.
BUT lol
From what I've read the Dyna Grow has basically everything the plants need in 2 bottles instead of 5... maybe I'll add a PK booster in there too if I get the funds.
Any opinions?
Kind of looks like a hybrid between my small and big tent lol. Sure it'll work, the flange is a connector/adapter for ducting. You put the flange in the vent holes of the tent, then mount the ducting over that, and seal with duct tape. You've gotta make sure that if you get a 6 inch flange, that you get 6 inch ducting too.
My filter is on the inside of my big tent (Rectangle), I tied it up with straps to the upper left hand corner of my tent. Filter>Ducting>Light>Ducting>Fan (Exhaust), the Vortex fan is on the outside top of the tent. The trick to the rectangle tents and ventilation is to make sure your CF is mounted at the top and opposite of the main flap/hole you're going to use as an intake. Also that you have your or one of your circulation fans pushing the air from the intake towards the opposite end. So basically what happens is, the circulation fan pushes cool air low, and the CF sucks the cool air through the whole tent, before exhausting both tent/light heat. So it can be done for sure, but I do agree about the square tent for lighting.
Aaaaaand we're off!! Hopefully that cool tube helps with heat. Also the mixed spectrum of both CFL's is fine, natural light has a mixed spectrum.hello people , just managed to find a buy probably the only 'pyrex bake a round' in the uk, got it off ebay for £26. my seedling still isn't in my box because the temps easily get up to 35 c with the light on for about 10 mins. so this home made cooltube should save the day
i've had my seedling on my window sill for the past couple days but now its got cloudy going to set up some cfls in my grow box , i only have one 15w blue spec light and one 45w red spec but it will still help it grow in till i get the cool tube , which will be arriving in 6-8 days
the seedlings a little small for 6 days old but hopefully it will start growing a bit quicker over the next week, its only got one pair of leaves not including the round ones, but you can see the second pair just coming threw. i'll stay updated
Man your grow is gonna smell reallllllly good pretty soon here lol.
Well hell I had replied already, I could delete it but bah. Lol take a read if it's worth anything, maybe it'll help others too. Yeah it gets super busy, then super slow, but the regulars are usually always around. I'll most likely stick around regardless of my lighting, because I've been with it so long. It's a nice thread, real chill people, not too much drama, and just over all great imho.
**Whew that will teach me to slack lol jk. "Doobieus likes all of the above.".
Grazzmon
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Thanks MB, I have used the Lucas formula with AN Jungle Juice with good results (they have the formula on the back of the bottle). I switched a few weeks back to MaxiBloom powder, I will be using it on my next grow for sure, it's a one part nute and the pH is balanced and you are only paying for the nutes not the water.
Grazz
BTW: Jamaica is good mon.. haven't sampled the local product yet (family vaca), I spoke to a fellow the other day that said he had a Menu lol.. going to be looking at that today I think
GreenGrower14
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Glad your enjoying Jamaica Gazz, ive heard the local bud is pretty decent, ive seen some of UrbanGrowers videos as a matter of fact check this out hahaThanks MB, I have used the Lucas formula with AN Jungle Juice with good results (they have the formula on the back of the bottle). I switched a few weeks back to MaxiBloom powder, I will be using it on my next grow for sure, it's a one part nute and the pH is balanced and you are only paying for the nutes not the water.
Grazz
BTW: Jamaica is good mon.. haven't sampled the local product yet (family vaca), I spoke to a fellow the other day that said he had a Menu lol.. going to be looking at that today I think
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QjPOpIXQXY&feature=plcp&context=C4f572dfVDvjVQa1PpcFMrEtYY8meHJmex1kY6B79hJ_8PjrDhpjE=
rufusgrower
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cool tube not workingggg 
my temps are at 32C , here is some pics to see if you lot can spot the problem, the send is not air tight but the fan on the other end is pulling the air through so is that fine ? i can just still feel the heat through the pyrex glass
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and here's a pic of the super critical seedling at 10 days
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my temps are at 32C , here is some pics to see if you lot can spot the problem, the send is not air tight but the fan on the other end is pulling the air through so is that fine ? i can just still feel the heat through the pyrex glass View attachment 2106322View attachment 2106323View attachment 2106324
and here's a pic of the super critical seedling at 10 days
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Doobieus
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Where are you measuring your temps at?cool tube not workingggg
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and here's a pic of the super critical seedling at 10 days
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A cool tube or air cooling hood should be pretty air tight, at least that's what I have always known. Are you trying to vent the cab through the light or is the light on it's own ventilation? If the light is on it's own ventilation you need to make it air tight, or else you're going to have to figure out your CFM's and make sure your fan can handle the air exchange needed to keep it cool in there. You're tent/cab heat should be around 10 degrees or so hotter than your ambient temp.
The baby looks good from what I can see.
Hope this helps.
rufusgrower
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im measuring my temps from just behind the plant at the same level as the leaves its at 32C when the door is partially open but when i close it im sure it would raise up to at least 35C.
im extracting the air through the cooltube and this is my only exhaust in the grow area, the air from the cool tube is going up and out the grow box, but still there is a lot of heat coming from the light and through the cool tube, if you put your hand under you can really feel the hot temps.
i dont know how to work out my CFM but the fan has an Extraction Rate 85m³/hr, i really do not know what that means though.
thanks for the help
Matchbox
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yeah like doob said if it's your only extraction fan your going to want to work out your CFM's and all that jazz, that 85m³/hr is only 50 CFM isn't good enough to vent the cab and a cool tube... do you have a carbon filter on the other side of that fan? 'cause when you do it'll sap the power of the fan by at least 30% so a higher CFM rated fan compensates for this as well.
My advice would be to grab a decent inline fan of at least 150 CFM that should keep your cool tube cool XD.
rufusgrower
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thank you
do you kno where i could buy a exhaust fan with 150 CFM, im looking at some fans with 250m3/hr and there all over £100 is there any place to get them cheaper ? and no i dont have a carbon filter. do you think i could find one of these fans for around £30 ?
GreenGrower14
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Kskl8F9wjs&feature=context&context=G2b2caceRVAAAAAAAACA
Everyone should watch this...
Everyone should watch this...
Matchbox
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Don't skimp on your exhaust fan, they last many, many years and rarely give out even after then they are definitely value for money and possibly the second most important thing to drop money on besides your light in any grow room.thank you
do you think i could find one of these fans for around £30 ?
Aren't you in the UK? Try Greens Horticulture they are a brilliant company, usually get my delivery next day if ordered before 2pm and their prices are really competitive.
If you want a fan/filter deal look here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Growroom-Products/Fans-&-Fan-Filter-Deals/Value-Fan-&-Filter-Package/
If you just want the fan look here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Growroom-Products/Fans-&-Fan-Filter-Deals/RUCK-Fans/
I got the 1st one 'cause its an amazing deal for a filter and a fan, plus its a Ruck fan (one of the best names in the business) and it easily cools my 250w HPS, WITHOUT a cool tube, whilst attached to the filter
Again don't cheap out on a good exhaust fan and chances are you can't get a good one for around £30, look on eBay or something for Ruck 4" inline fan.
Will do, I love watching documentaries about weed and stuff like that, though they do make me fucking sick of the whole bullshit'ness of it being illegal... there is not a single reason why it should be illegal (compared to alchohol etc).... EVEN Hemp! i mean you can make bio fuel from it and it more than compensates the carbon footprint 'cause a field breathes more CO2 than burning it makes GAH! lol I could rant for hours about how much the government pisses me the fuck off
Stay frosty!
rufusgrower
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yh thanks i was looking at that same one but second hand on ebay, hopefully i'll win the auction. it will be such a relief when i get this sorted, even though the temps are high my baby is still looking greatDon't skimp on your exhaust fan, they last many, many years and rarely give out even after then they are definitely value for money and possibly the second most important thing to drop money on besides your light in any grow room.
Aren't you in the UK? Try Greens Horticulture they are a brilliant company, usually get my delivery next day if ordered before 2pm and their prices are really competitive.
If you want a fan/filter deal look here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Growroom-Products/Fans-&-Fan-Filter-Deals/Value-Fan-&-Filter-Package/
If you just want the fan look here: http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/categories/Growroom-Products/Fans-&-Fan-Filter-Deals/RUCK-Fans/
I got the 1st one 'cause its an amazing deal for a filter and a fan, plus its a Ruck fan (one of the best names in the business) and it easily cools my 250w HPS, WITHOUT a cool tube, whilst attached to the filter
Again don't cheap out on a good exhaust fan and chances are you can't get a good one for around £30, look on eBay or something for Ruck 4" inline fan.
thanks for the help !!
Doobieus
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Seen it, but it's a really good one. I've seen a bunch of documentaries, but there was one that I can't remember the name of. It was talking about how the sea slug was one of the first species with cannabinoid receptors or something like that. Also that the Cannabis plant is an evolved plant of another species somewhere in the Kazakhstan mountains. They said that this plant (Not hemp) evolved trichomes to protect itself from the heavy UV rays in the mountains. The plant looks like an old old olllllld school cannabis plant with no trichomes lol. Whether or not this is how it evolved.... Eh not sure, but that's why it's a theory I guess lol. Pretty interesting stuff in those docs. You ever heard the hemp jazz album? It's really cool, it's an album full of old ollllld 30's-40's jazz music about herb. It has people like Ella and Cab on there, really interesting stuff even if jazz isn't your thing.
MB is right, don't skimp on the important gear. The rest of the small stuff you can usually improvise for super cheap anyway. The kitchen, storage/organization and aquarium departments in stores have become my friend lol. Your lights, fans, soil and nutrients you really want to invest a little more, especially the lights and fans. I run a 6 inch fan w/ carbon filter, I think it's around 200-250 CFM I can't remember. I know it's at least at the 200 mark though, for my bigger tent. You also want to invest in a small oscillating fan, or a small fan in general to help circulate air. This will help circulate air, help seedlings develop stronger branches, and keep mold from developing.thank you
do you think i could find one of these fans for around £30 ?