Double Dip Recession Coming?

[missnu]

They cut like some million dollars from my states education fund last term...like 1.4 or something...that is a hell of a cut...especially if you are already in an area that is not that bright to start off with due to inadequate schools...

 

[missnu]

One school fired all the janitors and support staff so they wouldn't have to fire any teachers...because they had already fired 1/4 of them last term...so now the teachers have to be the janitors, and assistants, and everything all rolled into one...so they have to do more work for the same pay, just to keep their jobs...and that is the point I am getting at with all my ramblings in this thread....it is happening everywhere...someone is making money off of this...Where is the money taken from dumb kids going? To feed the machine man...

 

[RainbowBrite86]

In my area they keep closing schools and consolidating classrooms...they keep threatening to take away our school buses...and where is all this extra money going...? Who knows...but there can't be anything more important for the economic growth as a nation overall than keeping the youth smart and thinking...that can give us a leg up that a bunch of rich old men, just can't...

The No Child Left Behind Act has ruined schools in America...
Lets say that when talking to a group of children in a specific area you find that they seem to be a good deal behind other cities and states similarly aged children...SO these kids are stupid, and you look further into the situation and find that the schools in the area are far below standard in equipment, staff, and what not...would you not think that these schools might need a little extra help so they have a chance of teaching the children on a level playing field? I would think that is the obvious answer...but the NCLB Act says the exact opposite...if children's test scores can't keep up with other areas they cut funding for that school....and sometimes that means getting rid of teachers and programs...so if your school is inadequate and making your children dumb the act guarantees that the children in this area will become farther and farther behind...
They should have called it The Kick The Legs Out From Under Early American's Act

We spend a lot of time just prepping children for those tests now, too. Instead of helping them focus on what their own individual educational needs are, we just make sure they can pass these tests so we can continue to afford even having them in school. Extracurricular activities are being cut rapidly. Like I said in another thread, i'm grateful my son can even go to band class, because so many schools have cut things like band out because they just can't afford them anymore. Field trips seem to only be able to happen if parents can transport their own children, because taking the school bus is no longer an option. I think the idea behind it was well intended - I do believe that when enacting the NCLB someone thought "They're just not trying hard enough, this will make them try harder." But what it really did was hold the schools that were behind even further behind while rewarding the schools that didn't really need the help to begin with.

 

[Corso312]

budget cuts does not mean they don't have the funding to get the job the job done...all it means is they are continuing to piss money away and make some layoffs....as far as all the teachers and nurses..well that is another scam being run..the education hustle...brainwash everyone into thinking they need a college degree to ever hope to be successful...they just want everyone buried in student loans and keep that cash cow eating....30k a year for college! what a fucking joke..and the companies will just hire indians and foreigners to do your job anyway for half the salary.

 

[missnu]

and everyone gets dumber all the time and more money goes to feed the machine...until everyone is so poor and dumb, but then one person comes along that is just a smart anomaly...A true genius...not taught, just a naturally smart person..and this person will never take what they are told as the word...and this will probably make them an outcast, but over time they will talk to enough to people to start doubt and that one person might just turn it all around...and then come the fires and razings....

 

[RainbowBrite86]

budget cuts does not mean they don't have the funding to get the job the job done...all it means is they are continuing to piss money away and make some layoffs....as far as all the teachers and nurses..well that is another scam being run..the education hustle...brainwash everyone into thinking they need a college degree to ever hope to be successful...they just want everyone buried in student loans and keep that cash cow eating....30k a year for college! what a fucking joke..and the companies will just hire indians and foreigners to do your job anyway for half the salary.

Budget cuts = less teachers = more students per class = less individual attention for students = lower performance for students.

 

[Corso312]

every single problem could be solved int his country by cutting the defense budget by 50% ...and that is what needs to be done

 

[RainbowBrite86]

every single problem could be solved int his country by cutting the defense budget by 50% ...and that is what needs to be done

Yes i'd love to live in a country with a weak defense system.

I can really see that working out well.

 

[Illegal Smile]

When I read some of these posts that basically say, "they can't do a decent job with the money we give them," I have to wonder why the hell not. Making all adjustments, they did it 30 years ago for little more than half.

I think the truth of the matter is that the damn unions are holding the schools and the kids hostage in order to coerce more and more money from us. We tell them to cut 10%, and they cut it from buses and stuff they know "we" care about. They never say well gee maybe we don't need a big raise this year. When american schools were turned over to unions, good public education was destroyed.

 

[Corso312]

Budget cuts = less teachers = more students per class = less individual attention for students = lower performance for students.

no shit! you come on with that on your own? or you have a big think tank working on that? ...they are laying teachers off but keeping the turds who make 200k for doing nothing but having luncheons and expense accounts around.

 

[RainbowBrite86]

When I read some of these posts that basically say, "they can't do a decent job with the money we give them," I have to wonder why the hell not. Making all adjustments, they did it 30 years ago for little more than half.

I think the truth of the matter is that the damn unions are holding the schools and the kids hostage in order to coerce more and more money from us. We tell them to cut 10%, and they cut it from buses and stuff they know "we" care about. They never say well gee maybe we don't need a big raise this year. When american schools were turned over to unions, good public education was destroyed.

Raises for teachers doesn't add up to much, since they make shit to begin with. The appeal for teaching jobs is NOT the pay. The pay is a friggin joke. The only thing teachers really have is good benefits, including tenure, which is being threatened as well.

 

[missnu]

budget cuts does not mean they don't have the funding to get the job the job done...all it means is they are continuing to piss money away and make some layoffs....as far as all the teachers and nurses..well that is another scam being run..the education hustle...brainwash everyone into thinking they need a college degree to ever hope to be successful...they just want everyone buried in student loans and keep that cash cow eating....30k a year for college! what a fucking joke..and the companies will just hire indians and foreigners to do your job anyway for half the salary.

All I know is that if a school was not getting by with a $500,000 a year, why would they be more likely to succeed if only given $250,000....not to mention each year more kids start school than what started the year before...so less money each year, but more kids too...it doesn't take a prodigal genius of the light to see that it just won't work out...
I am thinking of keeping my kids home and just schooling them myself...I feel like if given an outline of what they should learn by a given age I can have them finished with school in just a few years...It is amazing what children can learn if you only give them the info and let them know the answers are out there...their little minds are like sponges...and soon the sponges will be full...I want to know for sure that the sponge is soaking up good info and not some canned government bs...especially because we live in a poor area...so now the schools are getting worse and worse and worse...

 

[RainbowBrite86]

no shit! you come on with that on your own? or you have a big think tank working on that? ...they are laying teachers off but keeping the turds who make 200k for doing nothing but having luncheons and expense accounts around.

Well hi there Corso!

Did you know you can disagree with someone without belittling/insulting?

No seriously.

It's awesome.

 

[missnu]

My husband is a cable tech and he makes more than teachers do...

 

[RainbowBrite86]

All I know is that if a school was not getting by with a $500,000 a year, why would they be more likely to succeed if only given $250,000....not to mention each year more kids start school than what started the year before...so less money each year, but more kids too...it doesn't take a prodigal genius of the light to see that it just won't work out...
I am thinking of keeping my kids home and just schooling them myself...I feel like if given an outline of what they should learn by a given age I can have them finished with school in just a few years...It is amazing what children can learn if you only give them the info and let them know the answers are out there...their little minds are like sponges...and soon the sponges will be full...I want to know for sure that the sponge is soaking up good info and not some canned government bs...especially because we live in a poor area...so now the schools are getting worse and worse and worse...

Exactly. I want to homeschool my children too. If my work hours would allow it, I would. Also, my state makes it so damn hard to homeschool.

 

[missnu]

no shit! you come on with that on your own? or you have a big think tank working on that? ...they are laying teachers off but keeping the turds who make 200k for doing nothing but having luncheons and expense accounts around.

I don't understand why you are mad...you are like trying to say that taking money from education is alright, and that they dont need it anyway...and I happen to know that they do need the money...badly...and again where is this money going...

 

[Illegal Smile]

There is not a city school system or government agency in the country that I couldn't go into for a couple months and devise a plan to cut the budget by 10% and increase outcomes in the right places. It's not that it can't be done, it's that it would rock the boat too much. I mean, if we cut ALL government by 10% it would create an economic boom greater than any even imagined. But not only that, THEN people might see that we could cut it another 10%!

I'm telling you, it's us vs them. Government and government employees = zombies

 

[missnu]

Exactly. I want to homeschool my children too. If my work hours would allow it, I would. Also, my state makes it so damn hard to homeschool.

Mine doesn't have any of the really neat online programs that I think would make everything so easy...I just need like an outline of what they should know by such and such a date...that is it...I can have them on top where they should be...not bored sitting around with a bunch of slack-jawed imbeciles.

 

[RainbowBrite86]

Mine doesn't have any of the really neat online programs that I think would make everything so easy...I just need like an outline of what they should know by such and such a date...that is it...I can have them on top where they should be...not bored sitting around with a bunch of slack-jawed imbeciles.

I like that book series "What your ___ grader needs to know"...

The author advocates for a national standard for lesson plans, so that say if a child moves from Main to California in the middle of the school year, they're jumping into the same curriculum they just left. To me, that's a better plan than having everyone on completely different pages so that some students are learning about the same thing three years in a row while others are jumping around hopelessly not really getting the full understanding of a concept or lesson.

 

[missnu]

I am home all the time...I don't really have any skills or motivation...just a big brain and nothing to do with it...all I can see myself doing is learning things just to lecture other people on what I have learned...Kind of like teaching your children what you have learned...so if I can pass onto them my wish and hunger for knowledge then they will have a good chance to do well...I got in trouble for asking questions...I encourage my kids to ask any question that pops in their head, because I like to learn the answer...

we were in the check out line at the grocer and my daughter asks the cashier, "Excuse me Ma'am?" "Why do crackers have holes in them?"...and you see all the adults in earshot freeze up in thought...nobody knew...but my 4 year old wanted to know...and now we know...It is so they bake evenly.
I have retained my wish to know everything on into adulthood and I want my kids to keep hold of it as well...