Testing Hans panel: 56watt Cree xp-e/ Lumiled rebel power==== Let's talk efficiency

PSUAGRO.

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^^^^^^Yeah that was #1 first true set of leaves that had a slight watering issue early on/ the new growth shows no signs of "bleaching" just stunting IMO........they have stabilized/now it's up to me to bring out their true potential or get nothing.............thanks
 

hyroot

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Let them dry out. then give it some bacteria when you water next.


Those lux apps are all fake. The editor reviews and even the creaters say they are fake and just for fun to mess with people. There are alot of fake apps. Theres no way a phone can measure those with out some sort of built in ir scanner or laser scanner
 

hyroot

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Fyi. I started using roots organic uprising about a month ago. Dry powder nutes. It blows away th earth juice ive been using. In the first 2 weeks of flower even under hps, they were.so frosty and so sticky. Now at 4 weeks buds are the biggest and frostiest they have ever been at this point. You only have to mix in 1-2 tsp in the soil once a month.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Let them dry out. then give it some bacteria when you water next.


Those lux apps are all fake. The editor reviews and even the creaters say they are fake and just for fun to mess with people. There are alot of fake apps. Theres no way a phone can measure those with out some sort of built in ir scanner or laser scanner
Was hoping my high N trf's would allow the bacteria in the cocco mix(30%soil) to thrive, but I nuked it for gnat issues i had in the past with it/ gonna wait it out a little longer and apply whats needed.......

Fyi. I started using roots organic uprising about a month ago. Dry powder nutes. It blows away th earth juice ive been using. In the first 2 weeks of flower even under hps, they were.so frosty and so sticky. Now at 4 weeks buds are the biggest and frostiest they have ever been at this point. You only have to mix in 1-2 tsp in the soil once a month.
AAAAHHH, I've been eyeing that product line recently........do you have the "foundation" blend also??? sounds very promising.......might try it soon....thanks
 

hyroot

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Was hoping my high N trf's would allow the bacteria in the cocco mix(30%soil) to thrive, but I nuked it for gnat issues i had in the past with it/ gonna wait it out a little longer and apply whats needed.......



AAAAHHH, I've been eyeing that product line recently........do you have the "foundation" blend also??? sounds very promising.......might try it soon....thanks
I did not get the foundation. Dude at my local shop said he uses it with his grapes and chili peppers. The grow and bloom already have 8% cal. I already had epsom salt -magnesium sulfate. then I get iron from Kelp in my compost teas that I feed once a week. On a few I am seeing a little cal def in the last couple days. But its about time to top dress with some more. Its just been 4 weeks. 1 tsp for that and probably going to do 1.5-2 tsp for the next 4 weeks.. The extra is for that pk boost.

Alot of people seem to get predator mites with their ancient forest. Where the compost comes from is a moulting ground for predator mites. They eat all the bugs. Once the bugs / food source is gone they die off. Just top dress for that. Gnats - flyers only drink water. They drown themselves drinking. The crawlers only eat organic material. Larva eat roots and oganic material. They eat material first. So as long as there is plenty of organic material. They won't eat the roots.
 

PSUAGRO.

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I did not get the foundation. Dude at my local shop said he uses it with his grapes and chili peppers. The grow and bloom already have 8% cal. I already had epsom salt -magnesium sulfate. then I get iron from Kelp in my compost teas that I feed once a week. On a few I am seeing a little cal def in the last couple days. But its about time to top dress with some more. Its just been 4 weeks. 1 tsp for that and probably going to do 1.5-2 tsp for the next 4 weeks.. The extra is for that pk boost.

Alot of people seem to get predator mites with their ancient forest. Where the compost comes from is a moulting ground for predator mites. They eat all the bugs. Once the bugs / food source is gone they die off. Just top dress for that. Gnats - flyers only drink water. They drown themselves drinking. The crawlers only eat organic material. Larva eat roots and oganic material. They eat material first. So as long as there is plenty of organic material. They won't eat the roots.
Thanks for the info Hyroot.............I really like the versatility with powdered/granular nutes........ Roots organic's stuff is pricey in general, but you can definitely stretch this stuff out in a powdered form...........good luck on your PAR T5 grows brother/ if it wasn't for you guys, I would have never have found out about those "florasuns" love em:)



DAY 15.............#1 002.jpg003.jpg............................#2004.jpg005.jpg...................
Co2/co enrichment 4hrs a day/ 20/4 light schedule/ Panel at 15 inches(thanks Dawg)/ Growth phase(23w)...........will water tomorrow with aerated tap and recheck my ph

001.jpg006.jpg.......................be safe and happy growing
 

Amaximus

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Day 15 eh? The scary part is regardless of size those 2 are going to start flowering in the next 7-10 days!
I have only run one AF (NLxBB) but this is where mine was after 15 days (Still in a party cup and obviously thirsty)
She is more filled out than your girls but as far as being bigger... *shrug* She is maybe 1 1/4 tall there.

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PSUAGRO.

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Day 15 eh? The scary part is regardless of size those 2 are going to start flowering in the next 7-10 days!
I have only run one AF (NLxBB) but this is where mine was after 15 days (Still in a party cup and obviously thirsty)
She is more filled out than your girls but as far as being bigger... *shrug* She is maybe 1 1/4 tall there.

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Yeah scary indeed:) might double up the co2/co to 8hrs a day this week, was hoping to get another two weeks before their auto flip..............So out curiosity I scavenged through RIU looking for other growers running these nirvana BM autos, found four active threads atm.............two growers can't get it to flower(one guy is at day 64!) and the other two are also still vegging..........Fuck! I might have way bigger problems if I have to force (12/12) them and get a bunch of nada:wall:.........thanks for the info Amaximus....


DAY 16......................#1 002.jpg003.jpg..................................#2 004.jpg005.jpg...........Their growth is still off to me (leaf formation) .......will definitely check ph on this watering............not yet wanna give them a good drying out........so tomorrow....

001.jpg well this week will be interesting..........................be safe and happy growing
 

The Dawg

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Yeah scary indeed:) might double up the co2/co to 8hrs a day this week, was hoping to get another two weeks before their auto flip..............So out curiosity I scavenged through RIU looking for other growers running these nirvana BM autos, found four active threads atm.............two growers can't get it to flower(one guy is at day 64!) and the other two are also still vegging..........Fuck! I might have way bigger problems if I have to force (12/12) them and get a bunch of nada:wall:.........thanks for the info Amaximus....


DAY 16......................#1 View attachment 2214966View attachment 2214967..................................#2 View attachment 2214968View attachment 2214969...........Their growth is still off to me (leaf formation) .......will definitely check ph on this watering............not yet wanna give them a good drying out........so tomorrow....

View attachment 2214970 well this week will be interesting..........................be safe and happy growing
Doing Research On Your A/F=Reps.Just Keep On Doing What You Doing And Hopfully You Have A Pheno With Good Genetics And Please Don't Judge Your Led Off This Grow.Other Than That Your A/F Is Looking Great bongsmilie
 

Amaximus

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Yeah scary indeed:) might double up the co2/co to 8hrs a day this week, was hoping to get another two weeks before their auto flip..............So out curiosity I scavenged through RIU looking for other growers running these nirvana BM autos, found four active threads atm.............two growers can't get it to flower(one guy is at day 64!) and the other two are also still vegging..........Fuck! I might have way bigger problems if I have to force (12/12) them and get a bunch of nada:wall:.........thanks for the info Amaximus....


DAY 16......................#1 View attachment 2214966View attachment 2214967..................................#2 View attachment 2214968View attachment 2214969...........Their growth is still off to me (leaf formation) .......will definitely check ph on this watering............not yet wanna give them a good drying out........so tomorrow....

View attachment 2214970 well this week will be interesting..........................be safe and happy growing
I forgot these were Nirvana seeds. Good idea looking up other grows. I'm not surprised to hear other growers are having problems with their seeds.
With that in mind I don't think I'd judge your lights from this grow. Call it a test for your next grow. :eyesmoke:
 

PSUAGRO.

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Doing Research On Your A/F=Reps.Just Keep On Doing What You Doing And Hopfully You Have A Pheno With Good Genetics And Please Don't Judge Your Led Off This Grow.Other Than That Your A/F Is Looking Great bongsmilie
Yeah I had my doubts since I looked at the seeds in the packaging.......If I have to force flower these AF's its game over no doubt/ won't blame the panel either........Big mistake being a cheap skate with the strain selection...............it is what it is..........thanks Dawg

I forgot these were Nirvana seeds. Good idea looking up other grows. I'm not surprised to hear other growers are having problems with their seeds.
With that in mind I don't think I'd judge your lights from this grow. Call it a test for your next grow. :eyesmoke:
I like this panel, its "growing" on me with its simplicity and I love the remote ballast(10ft cord, so you can remove it's heat from the grow if needed).........Nirvana never got their auto's genetics inline since their release(almost three years now/karma??ha) a disgrace IMO.............At this point I just wanna see what such a low wattage panel can do.........will see........thanks
 

PSUAGRO.

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DAY 17.................#1002.jpg003.jpg...................................#2.004.jpg005.jpg................Panel at 15inches (growth phase/23w)/20-4 light schedule/still no water/4hr co2-co enrichment per day...................That's it

001.jpg006.jpg......................be safe and happy growing RIU
 

PSUAGRO.

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DAY 18.....................#1002.jpg003.jpg.....................................#2004.jpg005.jpg............All variables the same..........Still no water!(ha this cocco mix is wacky)............Just reading the girls at this point/ no signs of thirst...........Co2 is getting more effective as more leaves develop/ gonna double up the enrichment cycle starting today:)

001.jpg............It's going to be 98 degrees on Thursday here:shock: the girls are in for a rough one this week..............be safe and happy growing
 

Gastanker

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Yeah, they are definitely taking off now. That is crazy coco - I'm use to it drying up quite a bit faster than soil.
 
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