taking a plunge in AN's line up.

[tree king]

phil its fuckin insane whats goin on in my flower room right now. plants are 5 days into flower and if it was ebb n flow it would probably take 1 1/2 to 2 weeks to get here lol. aero for life! im gonna have to probably chop some leaves later in flower to make everything fit

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

ok just wanted to make sure our ratios were similar. so if you were using the sensi bloom from day 1 than you would add big bud the second week instead of overdrive? im starting to notice that with some strains if i use grow the first 2 weeks than the plants stretch a little too much. i switched and im doing the bloom from day 1 now since the pheno i picked was the most sativa. it has plenty of nitrogen anyway ive never had a problem before

i use grow for days 1-14 of 12/12 and just add about 100-150ppm of bloom part B which is 1-5-4 i think; or something like that. then at day 14 i switch to bloom nutes and 100-150ppm of grow part a which is 3-0-0. piranha, tarantula, and voodoo juice for days 1-14 of 12/12. then the rest of the additives from day 14 on.

i find that the bloom formula just doesn't cut it for those first 2 weeks. i don't have any problems with stretching. my plants double in height which is exactly what i want. keeping them under MH light and on veg nutes those first 2 weeks works for me. the plants are basically in a veg stage at that point anyway. plus the veg nutes the first 14 days and the N boost the rest of the way helps me avoid N deficiencies later in flower.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

phil its fuckin insane whats goin on in my flower room right now. plants are 5 days into flower and if it was ebb n flow it would probably take 1 1/2 to 2 weeks to get here lol. aero for life! im gonna have to probably chop some leaves later in flower to make everything fit

that's awesome man. if you have good misters then you plants really uptake the nutes in those aero systems. that's why i'm switching out to UC. nutrient uptake is insane in those systems too.

 

[tree king]

that's awesome man. if you have good misters then you plants really uptake the nutes in those aero systems. that's why i'm switching out to UC. nutrient uptake is insane in those systems too.

yeah my boy does uc and loves it. he has to use bleach though or else he gets slime, glad i dont have to worry about that. i cant believe how fast my res is getting depleted right now. the plants are drinkin like crazy and i havent even lowered the lights all the way yet. i was mainly talkin about my situation phil, if you were me and using the bloom only from day one what would you use the second week big bud right?

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

yeah my boy does uc and loves it. he has to use bleach though or else he gets slime, glad i dont have to worry about that. i cant believe how fast my res is getting depleted right now. the plants are drinkin like crazy and i havent even lowered the lights all the way yet. i was mainly talkin about my situation phil, if you were me and using the bloom only from day one what would you use the second week big bud right?

yea, i would run the big bud week 2 if i were you. then, depending on what else you have i might run it all the way through.

slime is easy to keep out of your system without running bleach. if you have a good tea or run the right enzymes and bacteria then you'll be good to go. also, keeping the water 62-65 degrees helps a lot. you gotta run those UC systems with chillers.

 

[tree king]

yea, i owuld run the big bud week 2 if i were you. then, depending on what else you have i might run it all the way through.

slime is easy to keep out of your system without running bleach. if you have a good tea or run the right enzymes and bacteria then you'll be good to go. also, keeping the water 62-65 degrees helps a lot. you gotta run those UC systems with chillers.

your def right about the chiller my boy just doesnt want to run one. this seems like one of the advantages of aero im pretty sure im never gonna have to worry about this slime. im running bloom the whole way, b-52, bud candy, roots excel first 2 weeks, and rhino skin. what do you recommend i do as far as big bud and overdrive is concerned? the only other thing im gonna try out down the line is bud factor x

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

your def right about the chiller my boy just doesnt want to run one. this seems like one of the advantages of aero im pretty sure im never gonna have to worry about this slime. im running bloom the whole way, b-52, bud candy, roots excel first 2 weeks, and rhino skin. what do you recommend i do as far as big bud and overdrive is concerned? the only other thing im gonna try out down the line is bud factor x

i would just keep an eye on your reservoir in that system. you might not need a chiller; it really depends on the environment. you do wana try and keep the water under 68 if you can though. easy fix is just to buy a few 1 liter water bottles. freeze them and drop one in your res every once and a while. you'll get the timing down after a week or so as to how often you need to change them out.

if i were you i would run big bud from week 2 through the end. see how it does for you. i know the feeding chart says only weeks 2-4 i think. that's cause they want you to switch to overdrive. i'd run it all the way through.

 

[tree king]

i would just keep an eye on your reservoir in that system. you might not need a chiller; it really depends on the environment. you do wana try and keep the water under 68 if you can though. easy fix is just to buy a few 1 liter water bottles. freeze them and drop one in your res every once and a while. you'll get the timing down after a week or so as to how often you need to change them out.

if i were you i would run big bud from week 2 through the end. see how it does for you. i know the feeding chart says only weeks 2-4 i think. that's cause they want you to switch to overdrive. i'd run it all the way through.

phil can you explain why i should run it till the end? i dont wanna mess up any yield and money isnt a problem to buy both

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

phil can you explain why i should run it till the end? i dont wanna mess up any yield and money isnt a problem to buy both

you're not gonna mess up any yields tree. trust me. it's just a K booster with a little N in it which i think will help you through flower. you have the bottle already so why not use it. then when you are done with it you can get the overdrive and run just that through flower. you don't have to follow their chart to the "T". you can mix and match stuff as needed. every strain is different and their chart is generic just like everyone's is. i'd start by just running the big bud all the way through and see how your plants do. if anything you will see they need a little more P maybe. then you can adjust for that real easy if you need to. overdrive can mess your plants up REAl fast if you aren't careful with it.

 

[tree king]

you're not gonna mess up any yields tree. trust me. it's just a K booster with a little N in it which i think will help you through flower. you have the bottle already so why not use it. then when you are done with it you can get the overdrive and run just that through flower. you don't have to follow their chart to the "T". you can mix and match stuff as needed. every strain is different and their chart is generic just like everyone's is. i'd start by just running the big bud all the way through and see how your plants do. if anything you will see they need a little more P maybe. then you can adjust for that real easy if you need to. overdrive can mess your plants up REAl fast if you aren't careful with it.

alright i see im probably gonna try that out. i appreciate all the advice phil thanks

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

here's the 6 girls that are going into flower as soon as i pull those plants out and put them into darkness. schedule is a little off cause these are going in only 3 weeks after i just put 6 other in there. oh well. been pulling them out during the day as i do some work on the tents getting the new 3hp chiller setup and some new toys installed.


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[kamie]

you're not gonna mess up any yields tree. trust me. it's just a K booster with a little N in it which i think will help you through flower. you have the bottle already so why not use it. then when you are done with it you can get the overdrive and run just that through flower. you don't have to follow their chart to the "T". you can mix and match stuff as needed. every strain is different and their chart is generic just like everyone's is. i'd start by just running the big bud all the way through and see how your plants do. if anything you will see they need a little more P maybe. then you can adjust for that real easy if you need to. overdrive can mess your plants up REAl fast if you aren't careful with it.

what happens when you use overdrive wrong? i've been doing big bud from day 1 to week 5 and then i switch to overdrive for week 6 and 7. but i wanna try doing big bud all the way through and see what happens. also scooby what do you use for your LST? do you have any pics of LST on the plant youre almost done with? if not its okay. thanks for the great info

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

what happens when you use overdrive wrong? i've been doing big bud from day 1 to week 5 and then i switch to overdrive for week 6 and 7. but i wanna try doing big bud all the way through and see what happens. also scooby what do you use for your LST? do you have any pics of LST on the plant youre almost done with? if not its okay. thanks for the great info

hey kamie, it's just that overdrive is heavy on the PK so you can "overdo" it pretty easily. you kinda gotta build it up slowly in my opinion. i would try running just the big bud from week 2 on. or run big bud in the beginning and end and overdrive in the middle when the plant really needs the boost.

i don't have any lst pics. sorry bud. i'll take some when i start on these new girls. i use galvanized aluminum wire. we use it a lot on contruction sites down here so i have tond of it. i just cut a piece with wire snips and the make a hook out of it. then istake it into the soil. anything will do the trick though. you can tape branches down to the pot using string.

 

[Trulife69]

that brings up a good question scoob..so Im around 30 days in flower..I have been running big bud..Would it be more beneficial to start feeding overdrive for next 2 weeks instead of bigbud? and then go back to big bud for last 2 weeks? I did watch a youtube vid "weed nerd episode twenty4 the mist"..in the vid he was saying he runs double strength of overdrive at end of flowering..cool grow room.. cool video..But just wanting to know a little more about overdrive and how to get the most out of it.
People!Listen to scoob,he knows what the hell he's talking about

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

that brings up a good question scoob..so Im around 30 days in flower..I have been running big bud..Would it be more beneficial to start feeding overdrive for next 2 weeks instead of bigbud? and then go back to big bud for last 2 weeks? I did watch a youtube vid "weed nerd episode twenty4 the mist"..in the vid he was saying he runs double strength of overdrive at end of flowering..cool grow room.. cool video..But just wanting to know a little more about overdrive and how to get the most out of it.
People!Listen to scoob,he knows what the hell he's talking about

lol true, thanks for the compliment. if you haven't bought overdrive yet i would just run the big bud for now through harvest. use half as much big bud as you do your base nutes. so if you are adding 10ml of A and 10ml of B just add 5ml of big bud for that week. when you finish up the bottle then get overdrive. use the overdrive every week but for the first 3 weeks use a quarter of your base nutes and then switch to half. overdrive has much more of a boost than bug bud and you need to build up to it. hope that makes sense.

if you have them both already then use the big bud till the midway point of your flower period and switch to overdrive. i never tried backing off overdrive at the end of flower because i'm backing off my nutes in general anyway. if i'm at 1400ppm for that strain during weeks 4-5 then by week 8 i'm usually around half that ppm. i don't flush my plants at all.

 

[Trulife69]

scoob,I do have overdrive and big bud...I am halfway through flower as of right now. When I mix my additives I always run half the amount as my base nutes...so If I run 30 ml base nutes I only mix my additives in at 15ml each. If I switch over to overdrive from now to the end of flower do I still need to slowly build it up? Or at this point am I ok to run the 2:1 ratio with overdrive?? In flower I have been mixing my A.N. nutes around 5/8 dose and it puts me around 1050 ppms..will overdrive spike the ppms up higher?
thanks scoob

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

scoob,I do have overdrive and big bud...I am halfway through flower as of right now. When I mix my additives I always run half the amount as my base nutes...so If I run 30 ml base nutes I only mix my additives in at 15ml each. If I switch over to overdrive from now to the end of flower do I still need to slowly build it up? Or at this point am I ok to run the 2:1 ratio with overdrive?? In flower I have been mixing my A.N. nutes around 5/8 dose and it puts me around 1050 ppms..will overdrive spike the ppms up higher?
thanks scoob

no need to build it up if you are using it midway through flower. your plants need the added boost now. overdrive will move your ppm's but not that much. maybe drop the 2 part a tiny bit; a few mL to compensate for it.

 

[ScoobyDoobyDoo]

hey backyard. how's it going?

couple pics from the room. just got half going right now. holding the other ones back to get the schedule back on a 30 day timeframe. these are day 23.

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[711grower]

quite wasting your money on hype. a few years ago i spent 800 dollars to grow 15 plants with advanceds line up. education has taught me well. thanks to people like uncle ben and others i have learned to grow at a fraction of the cost. lighting, environment, and plant bilogy serves more then any line up can offer. screw house of garden, advanced, and every other company that has convinced us growers we need to spend a fortune to get good results

heres a plant with 5 bucks worth of nutrients and 20 worth of soil and perlite



and one of 6 colas from the same plant



thank goodness there are respectable growers on this site trying to teach us how to grow without spending a fortune. think about this ? if pot were legal all of the sudden and a farmer could grow acres of it, do you think any of them would use a single product found in a grow shop? no they would be out of business before they even got started because the cost for nutrients would be rediculous.. think outside the box folks....

 

[backyardagain]

quite wasting your money on hype. a few years ago i spent 800 dollars to grow 15 plants with advanceds line up. education has taught me well. thanks to people like uncle ben and others i have learned to grow at a fraction of the cost. lighting, environment, and plant bilogy serves more then any line up can offer. screw house of garden, advanced, and every other company that has convinced us growers we need to spend a fortune to get good results

heres a plant with 5 bucks worth of nutrients and 20 worth of soil and perlite

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and one of 6 colas from the same plant

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thank goodness there are respectable growers on this site trying to teach us how to grow without spending a fortune. think about this ? if pot were legal all of the sudden and a farmer could grow acres of it, do you think any of them would use a single product found in a grow shop? no they would be out of business before they even got started because the cost for nutrients would be rediculous.. think outside the box folks....

againg for a the trolls who dont know how to read, im going with advamnce why do ppl have to just say dont i want to try it if i like it i will continue to use it if not then its gets trashed. and for spend 800dollers on 15 plants just for nutes that shit cray. id spend maybe 3-400. and you dont need to get every damn product out from advance to have a sucessful grow. the fuck you get options to pick what you want to use fron one company and you bash them. how about cyco nutes, you guys bash thos too? get a life troll on some other shit. and plus your a lil late there. i already got them and the technaflora line up. sorry i like to do tests for my self and actually see what works for me. and everything .