Why bash Islam?

blazinkill504

blazinkill504

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correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the koran say if you arent a muslim you're the infidel an should be killed if found livin among muslims?
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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blazinkill504 said:
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the koran say if you arent a muslim you're the infidel an should be killed if found livin among muslims?
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Your wrong. Dont believe everything in the media my friend. We were all brainwashed to believe muslims were evil terrorists in order to support Bush's oil adventure I mean war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan.
 
blazinkill504

blazinkill504

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Kaendar said:
Your wrong. Dont believe everything in the media my friend. We were all brainwashed to believe muslims were evil terrorists in order to support Bush's oil adventure I mean war on terror in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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i know its just one verse out of a whole book, but verse 9:123 dont sound good to us infidels.
 
blazinkill504

blazinkill504

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i mean i dont have an issue with any muslims unless they blow themselves up. just like someone said earlier tho it annoys me that certain people are soo dumb to let lies make them act so radically.
 
Tenner

Tenner

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The more recent religions have been derived from old ones, and you can find proof of this in history.

Islam is a new religion, compared to yoga. In Islam, the prayers, talking about the positions which you pray in are just sorta there. In yoga, all the positions (asanas) work on nerve plexuses, flexing joints etc... Its so old you can`t track it back. It harnesses meditation, concentration. Excercises for your eyes even.

Compared to that, islam is a `quick fix` religion.

It does not tackle the human ego like anything spiritual should. It just directs all your desires and pleasures to heaven. The ego is still there, just waiting, and hoping. Thats why the rules of Islam are broken and misinterpreted so easily, and thats why I dislike it.

Also, I searched for that verse mentioned above and look what I found:

A Few Troubling Koran Verses
2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.
2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you.
3:028 Let not the believers take disbelievers for their friends in preference to believers.
4:074 Fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
4:076 Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil.
4:089 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) then take them and kill them wherever ye find them, and choose no friend nor helper from among them
4:091 If they keep not aloof from you nor offer you peace nor hold their hands, then take them and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.
4:101 The disbelievers are an open enemy to you.
4:144 Choose not disbelievers for (your) friends in place of believers. Would ye give Allah a clear warrant against you?
5:033 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.
5:051 Take not the Jews and the Christians for friends. … He among you who taketh them for friends is (one) of them.
8:012 When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying): I am with you. So make those who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger.
8:059-060 And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah's Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others beside them whom ye know not. Allah knoweth them.
8:065 Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence.
9:005 Slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.
9:012 If they … assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief. … Fight them! Allah will chastise them at your hands, and He will lay them low and give you victory over them
9:029 Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
9:073 O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites! Be harsh with them. Their ultimate abode is hell, a hapless journey's end.
9:111 Believers … shall fight in the way of Allah and shall slay and be slain. It is a promise which is binding on Him in the Torah and the Gospel and the Qur'an.
9:123 Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you.
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No wonder the imam was beating me up & people were in school were calling me names because I was not beliving in their Allah.

And yeah, so long as I remember the prayers I was forcefully taught (with insufficent science classes in that school) I will bash Islam. Why wouldn`t I?
 
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pron

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Kaendar said:
The Catholic church isnt a religion. Its a company. All set up to 1. Convince man to do the opposite of what god says to do. and 2. get your money.
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LOL, what a fucking hypocrite. Sticks up for one group, bashes another. You have no credibility....... Useless thread. Islam was founded by a rapist who murdered and pillaged. I guess back then, I TOO could persuade people I am magic and speak to GOD, just for my own personal gain. Just like Muslims, there are good and bad Christians, Jews, etc....but for some reason you picked a side instead of using your common sense.

Yes, I hate some Muslims, but I also hate some people from every ethnic and religious group that exists. But more importantly, I also know that the majority of Christians, Muslims, and Jews are good people.

You come off as a self-righteous prick, and you annoy the fuck out of me. So, I guess you are one of the few that I hate. LMAO, useless thread.
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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pron said:
LOL, what a fucking hypocrite. Sticks up for one group, bashes another. You have no credibility....... Useless thread. Islam was founded by a rapist who murdered and pillaged. I guess back then, I TOO could persuade people I am magic and speak to GOD, just for my own personal gain. Just like Muslims, there are good and bad Christians, Jews, etc....but for some reason you picked a side instead of using your common sense.

Yes, I hate some Muslims, but I also hate some people from every ethnic and religious group that exists. But more importantly, I also know that the majority of Christians, Muslims, and Jews are good people.

You come off as a self-righteous prick, and you annoy the fuck out of me. So, I guess you are one of the few that I hate. LMAO, useless thread.
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Wtf.. you cant compare the evil of catholicism to islam. I respect all religions, judaism, christianity, buddhism, etc.. but not catholicism. Maybe you should read about it instead of calling me a hypocrite. Wit ur 14 posts.
 
Cut.Throat.

Cut.Throat.

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Kaendar said:
Wtf.. you cant compare the evil of catholicism to islam. I respect all religions, judaism, christianity, buddhism, etc.. but not catholicism. Maybe you should read about it instead of calling me a hypocrite. Wit ur 14 posts.
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You are so far out there man. It's not even funny.
 
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pron

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Kaendar said:
Wtf.. you cant compare the evil of catholicism to islam. I respect all religions, judaism, christianity, buddhism, etc.. but not catholicism. Maybe you should read about it instead of calling me a hypocrite. Wit ur 14 posts.
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SO by your logic, 14 posts makes me what, a child??? You do realize that I have lived on this planet for 35 years, NO? Fucking idiot. By your logic, my 14 posts prior to this forum means I have not been on this planet. Holy shit, you are one fucking piece of work.

OH, and EDIT LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER: I am VERY familiar with the Quran. Do not test my knowledge of religion. I mean come on, you equate my post count with my knowledge of life. LMAO
 
shrxhky420

shrxhky420

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Tenner said:
The more recent religions have been derived from old ones, and you can find proof of this in history.
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you are absolutely correct, in fact the story of Noah and his ark was concieved by the Summerian culture a few 1000 years before Jesus. good call Tenner good call. stay high
 
charface

charface

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Kaendar said:
Can Cut throat please see his way off of this site.. I think Grasscity is hiring trolls.
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Not true, I posted one time under a different name and for the first time in my life
I was "informed" they diddnt need my kind. LOL
Now they know how my wife feels. I think all relegions are a bit hard to swallow
but I also do not think I just appeared so I`m useless here. :finger:
 
Kaendar

Kaendar

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shrxhky420 said:
you are absolutely correct, in fact the story of Noah and his ark was concieved by the Summerian culture a few 1000 years before Jesus. good call Tenner good call. stay high
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Dude, there is hard evidence that remains of the arc exist and are being protected by the local people.
 
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Wordz

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Kaendar said:
You probably shouldnt take everything as being literal. Arabic is incredibly difficult to translate into english.
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so if it translates to kill us and arabic speaking people read it and use it to justify killing us I'm sure it says to kill us.
 
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