predictions, please

What will happen to the PPACA?

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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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desert dude said:
As much fun as it is to make fun of UncleMarie and the doctor, I need to go do something productive so Buck can eat and AbandonReason can get back to masturbating about his medical school fantasy.
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every meal i've had the last few days was harvested out of my garden, save a cheeseburger i bought with proceeds from my treadmill sales.

you self righteous douchebag.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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londonfog said:
I will take the optimistic view that it stands 5-4. This vote will basically come down to politics. To get rid of it all would piss off a lot of people with pre-existing conditions, parents and their children who are under 26, those who cannot afford healthcare (well those who don't watch only fox). It also will mean we will have to revert back to the flawed system that we tried to fix.

To do away with the individual mandate would again make the whole PPACA worthless, since the mandate is meant to expand the pool of people covered by health insurance, making other parts of the law possible.
One thing that does strikes me as WTF. Repukes are ready to strike this law down, but have yet to offer anything that would help the healthcare problem...and also why is it that some of the people who this will help are the very ones complaining against it. Most will not even have to pay into it, because low-funded individuals will receive subsidies to help them afford insurance.
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Its good to be right... Obama 2012
 
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NoDrama

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abandonconflict said:
No actually, it gets better, cause now I don't have to lose family members to treatable causes just because they can't get insurance.
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You mean to tell me that your family members don't go to the hospital when they are dying from a treatable cause? Just because they have no insurance? Laughable, it really is because it doesn't have one ounce of truth to it. Almost anyone can get insurance, it might cost a lot but you can still get it, but that doesn't mean you will automatically live through every ailment.

Not having insurance doesn't mean you won't get healthcare. Hell I had a life saving operation years ago and didn't have insurance, didn't matter, they still fixed me right up. the Cost was $48,000 of which I paid NOTHING.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
You mean to tell me that your family members don't go to the hospital when they are dying from a treatable cause? Just because they have no insurance? Laughable, it really is because it doesn't have one ounce of truth to it. Almost anyone can get insurance, it might cost a lot but you can still get it, but that doesn't mean you will automatically live through every ailment.

Not having insurance doesn't mean you won't get healthcare. Hell I had a life saving operation years ago and didn't have insurance, didn't matter, they still fixed me right up. the Cost was $48,000 of which I paid NOTHING.
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You do realize somethings you have to have insurance or you will just get sent home with a prescription for pain medication.
 
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jessy koons

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I voted ' other ' because I don't pay much attention to most of the important issues that the media outlets present to us. I believe in the 'opinions are like assholes' analogy so I will keep my asshole covered up in this case.
 
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NoDrama

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londonfog said:
You do realize somethings you have to have insurance or you will just get sent home with a prescription for pain medication.
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How many people do you know that died becasue they didn't have insurance? Please back up claims with evidence.

I looked up the statistics and not having insurance isn't even considered a disease, so I don't see how not having it is detrimental to your health.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
How many people do you know that died becasue they didn't have insurance? Please back up claims with evidence.

I looked up the statistics and not having insurance isn't even considered a disease, so I don't see how not having it is detrimental to your health.
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google "kent snyder".

:lol:
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
He got plenty of healthcare, in excess of $200,000 worth , yet he still died. Guess what the coroner put on his death certificate as cause of death? If you guessed "lack of insurance" you are wrong.
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you'll never swallow your pride and admit that he stood a much better chance at living if he had access to affordable preventive care, so i'll just say this:

how much do you collect from the government to grow those 160 acres of corn? my guess is around $3k.
 
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NoDrama

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UncleBuck said:
you'll never swallow your pride and admit that he stood a much better chance at living if he had access to affordable preventive care,
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What kind of preventable care prevents Pneumonia?
Do they have annual pneumonia shots you can get?

This year I planted Soy.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
What kind of preventable care prevents Pneumonia?
Do they have annual pneumonia shots you can get?

This year I planted Soy.
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Dude they do have a pneumonia vaccine...shhhhh no talking for you today. The decision has you a little dizzy.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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Roberts did the right thing, as I said from the start, this is constitutional as a tax, therefore it will pass as a tax. I said it, even UB disagreed, I was the only one here arguing that way and I was right. I actually thought it would not pass because Obama didn't wish to call it a tax, maybe Roberts read my posts. I even said I didn't think the individual mandate was destined to become law, while also arguing for it's constitutionality if interpreted as a tax.

Everyone loses when I'm right.
 
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ChesusRice

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abandonconflict said:
Roberts did the right thing, as I said from the start, this is constitutional as a tax, therefore it will pass as a tax. I said it, even UB disagreed, I was the only one here arguing that way and I was right. I actually thought it would not pass because Obama didn't wish to call it a tax, maybe Roberts read my posts. I even said I didn't think the individual mandate was destined to become law, while also arguing for it's constitutionality if interpreted as a tax.

Everyone loses when I'm right.
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I will acknowledge you were right
on this
 
abuilder

abuilder

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NoDrama said:
Not having insurance doesn't mean you won't get healthcare. Hell I had a life saving operation years ago and didn't have insurance, didn't matter, they still fixed me right up. the Cost was $48,000 of which I paid NOTHING.
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No wonder health insurance for the rest of us is so expensive!
 
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