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I think Sandusky will prolly be beaten to death pretty soon, prisoners usually don't care for child molesters.
 
Kaendar

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Dr Kynes said:
western europe has adopted democratic socialism, which is counter to the socialism developed by marx and engles. the "socialist systems" in democratic socialism are what we call society. accepting things which are counter to your immediate self interest, to achieve long term social aims. every person in a society may not agree with the details of those social aims, but they do get to vote. that is not socialism. thats how all societies work.

their economic theories and practices may tend more towards the planned economy and controlled growth, and do include sweeping social programs, everything that is social is NOT SOCIALIST!

those kinds of petty picayune word games and verbal brinksmanship are unacceptable in polite society.

in a socialist society (north korea as an example) the claim is ultimately a communist society, and socialism is just a rest stop on the marxist highway. of course the kim family (and the castros and the mullahs etc...) will never allow the car to get back on the road towards utopia. anyone who espouses socialism should sober up and read marx and engles before strolling off into the dark night with the hot communist cupcake. youthful exuberance and infatuation with the (allegedly) highbrow ideals and bold talk of fairness in communist theory dupes the easily swayed with talk of hope, change and everybody paying their "fair share", but this is just beer goggles. when the sun comes up youll find yourself lying in the gutter with a concussion, empty pockets, no watch and a sore butthole.

when you grow older, gain some experience in the real world and see how socialism has failed repeatedly, and communism only works in small VOLUNTARY groups you may reject the ideals of marxism. or maybe youre one of those dickheads who cant admit when they have been duped and instead burrow deeper into the cult and try convince others to join. like tom cruise.
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Did you not read the many times where I said I was a democratic socialist? I want the country to be ran like France or UK, especially the healthcare.
 
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I always admired Canada, they have great solutions. Trying to save money? Instead of cutting budgets, take away the penny...brilliant.
 
Dr Kynes

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Kaendar said:
Did you not read the many times where I said I was a democratic socialist? I want the country to be ran like France or UK, especially the healthcare.
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i am a pretty good reader. i read a lot of shit, and you never claimed to be a "democratic socialist" you declared yourself to be a socialist.

democratic socialists dont call themselves that, they call themselves progressive, liberal, forward thinking, genius level rockstars from mars with tiger blood and adonis DNA, but almost never democratic socialists.

that term is almost entirely reserved for use by their critics, both on the right, among capitalists, and other "reactionary" political groups, or on the left, where the true marxists, communists and socialists declare democratic socialists to be counter-revolutionary.

among Trotskyites and Leninists "democratic socialists" are just one step above the petty bourgeois, and Stalinists. the democratic socilaists use of radicalized rhetoric, but distincly un-radical ideas like compromise marks them as opponents of revolution for stealing the rage from the proletariat with their concessions to private property and private ownership of the means of production. Trostksy particularly saved most of his venom for the democratic socialists and fascists (who are the violent and hate filled mirror image of democratic socialism) declaring them callous and cowardly opponents of the revolution and writing long hilarious and spittle choked rants decrying their sins against communist thought..

damn i love reading Trotsky. Stalin hated him so much he had to flee to mexico (the only socialist country in the western hemisphere at the time) till the KGB stuck an ice-pick through his ear in mexico city. so, once again, tell us how socialists are better than harmless communists like Trotsky?

also, Dominique Strauss Khan... Central Banker, Communist and Democratic Socialist. LLLLETS GET RRREEEADY TOOOOO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAPE SOME BITCHES!!!!!!
 
Kaendar

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Dr Kynes said:
i am a pretty good reader. i read a lot of shit, and you never claimed to be a "democratic socialist" you declared yourself to be a socialist.

democratic socialists dont call themselves that, they call themselves progressive, liberal, forward thinking, genius level rockstars from mars with tiger blood and adonis DNA, but almost never democratic socialists.

that term is almost entirely reserved for use by their critics, both on the right, among capitalists, and other "reactionary" political groups, or on the left, where the true marxists, communists and socialists declare democratic socialists to be counter-revolutionary.

among Trotskyites and Leninists "democratic socialists" are just one step above the petty bourgeois, and Stalinists. the democratic socilaists use of radicalized rhetoric, but distincly un-radical ideas like compromise marks them as opponents of revolution for stealing the rage from the proletariat with their concessions to private property and private ownership of the means of production. Trostksy particularly saved most of his venom for the democratic socialists and fascists (who are the violent and hate filled mirror image of democratic socialism) declaring them callous and cowardly opponents of the revolution and writing long hilarious and spittle choked rants decrying their sins against communist thought..

damn i love reading Trotsky. Stalin hated him so much he had to flee to mexico (the only socialist country in the western hemisphere at the time) till the KGB stuck an ice-pick through his ear in mexico city. so, once again, tell us how socialists are better than harmless communists like Trotsky?

also, Dominique Strauss Khan... Central Banker, Communist and Democratic Socialist. LLLLETS GET RRREEEADY TOOOOO RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAPE SOME BITCHES!!!!!!
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Maybe you should go back and read thru this and other threads in the politics section. Me and a few other members have explicitly labeled ourselves as democratic socialists...
 
Canna Sylvan

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Kaendar said:
Maybe you should go back and read thru this and other threads in the politics section. Me and a few other members have explicitly labeled ourselves as democratic socialists...
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Just like there are bat shit crazy loons who label themselves Satanists.
 
Dr Kynes

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Kaendar said:
Maybe you should go back and read thru this and other threads in the politics section. Me and a few other members have explicitly labeled ourselves as democratic socialists...
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so, i should lurk your bio, and examine every post you ever shat out to find the one missing word from your slef-identification. In every post in this thread and every other discourse we have engaged in, you have identified yourself as a Socialist. no democratic included.

In This Thread:

"This was all ridiculous, but all I have to say is Socialism is always best." ~Kaendar, post #68
"Your talking about communism.. theres a difference. France is pretty much a socialized country they dont seem to have many issues." ~Kaendar post #73
"Youve gotta be kidding me.. dont you realize that communism is the extreme form of socialism. Its like how the plutocracy we are in now is the extreme form of capitalism." ~Kaendar post #98
"Nobody said that communism was the goal here did they? I didnt. because obviously communism has proven itself to fail everytime. Socialism, however, has not. Look at all the happy ppl in Western Europe." ~Kaendar post #103
"Did you not read the many times where I said I was a democratic socialist? I want the country to be ran like France or UK, especially the healthcare." ~Kaendar post #124
"Maybe you should go back and read thru this and other threads in the politics section. Me and a few other members have explicitly labeled ourselves as democratic socialists..." ~Kaendar post #129

thats every post you made in this thread that contains the word socialist, or a reference thereto. all you did was dodge the word marxist, and applaud the liberal governments of western europe who are NOT socialists, as they are not marxist. even the ones that call themselves socialists arent socialist in the view of marx, engles, lenin, trotsky, stalin, mao, etc etc etc... if marx says you arent socialist, you arent socialist. just like if jesus says you aint christian, you aint christian.

your argument fails.

even here in the good ole' USA the "Democratic" party has almost nothing to do with democracy, except populism (pandering) their use of the name is a (not so) subtle mindfuck for the ignorant. In the mind of the rubes this is what happens: 'things which are democratic are superior to those which are authoritarian, therefore the party named "Democratic" is superior to the other party which is therefor authoritarian in nature' this is why democrats blow their tops and lose their damned minds when called "democrats", which is the name they used for themselves for nearly 80 years!

the "Democratic Republic of Deutschland" was a socialist dystopian nightmare, even though they were labeled democratic.
the "Peoples Republic of China" is not a republic, despite their name.

catch the clue yet?
 
Kaendar

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Democratic Socialism is the answer. Provide free healthcare and schooling for everyone. Regulate the housing market, and eliminate credit debt. Take the control from the 1% and put it back in the hands of the citizens!!!
 
Mr Neutron

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Kaendar said:
Democratic Socialism is the answer. Provide free healthcare and schooling for everyone. Regulate the housing market, and eliminate credit debt. Take the control from the 1% and put it back in the hands of the citizens!!!
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Who pays for it?
 
Dr Kynes

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Kaendar said:
Its paid for the same way all shit is payed for now.. taxes. But instead of bullshit our tax money will actually be used for us
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see NOW you sound like a democratic socialist, or as they are better known:

"Entry Level Pandering Demagogue Who Wants to Spend Everybody Else's Money to get a Cushy Job in Government II"

requirements:
two semesters or more in any program that is utterly useless in the real world.
preferred: incomplete associates degree in Women's Studies, African-American Mathematics or Political Illiteracy and it's Role in Liberal Amnesia
 
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