eport: 83 percent of doctors have considered quitting over Obamacare

rollinbud

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Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving their practices over President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, according to a survey released by the Doctor Patient Medical Association.
The DPMA, a non-partisan association of doctors and patients, surveyed a random selection of 699 doctors nationwide. The survey found that the majority have thought about bailing out of their careers over the legislation, which was upheld last month by the Supreme Court.
Even if doctors do not quit their jobs over the ruling, America will face a shortage of at least 90,000 doctors by 2020. The new health care law increases demand for physicians by expanding insurance coverage. This change will exacerbate the current shortage as more Americans live past 65.
By 2025 the shortage will balloon to over 130,000, Len Marquez, the director of government relations at the American Association of Medical Colleges, told The Daily Caller.
“One of our primary concerns is that you’ve got an aging physician workforce and you have these new beneficiaries — these newly insured people — coming through the system,” he said. “There will be strains and there will be physician shortages.”
The DPMA found that many doctors do not believe the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act will lead to better access to medical care for the majority of Americans, co-founder of the DPMA Kathryn Serkes told TheDC.
“Doctors clearly understand what Washington does not — that a piece of paper that says you are ‘covered’ by insurance or ‘enrolled’ in Medicare or Medicaid does not translate to actual medical care when doctors can’t afford to see patients at the lowball payments, and patients have to jump through government and insurance company bureaucratic hoops,” she said. (SEE ALSO: Jeremiah Wright: ‘White racist alien DNA’ running through synapses of Obama’s brain )
The American Medical Association, which endorsed Obama’s health care overhaul, was not able to immediately offer comment on the survey. Spokesperson Heather Lasher Todd said it would take time to review the information in the survey.
Janelle Davis of the American Academy of Family Physicians said the AAFP could not provide thoughtful commentary without studying the survey’s findings and methodology.
 

nontheist

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Well doctors have to fight the insurance companies for payment, its like a continues haggle, who the hell would want to go to school for 8+ years to work your ass off and haggle people for payment.
 

NoDrama

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Don't worry about the shortage of doctors, the government will surely come up with some kind of quick fix doctor school that will teach you all you need to know in only 2 short months.
 

canndo

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“One of our primary concerns is that you’ve got an aging physician workforce and you have these new beneficiaries — these newly insured people — coming through the system,” he said. “There will be strains and there will be physician shortages.”


Ah, I see, we should not afford every person medical care because to do so would incurr doctor shortages, there should be a group of people who are not entitled to care because of that vanishing resource.
 

nontheist

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“One of our primary concerns is that you’ve got an aging physician workforce and you have these new beneficiaries — these newly insured people — coming through the system,” he said. “There will be strains and there will be physician shortages.”


Ah, I see, we should not afford every person medical care because to do so would incurr doctor shortages, there should be a group of people who are not entitled to care because of that vanishing resource.
First off this is not guaranteed medical care, its guaranteed insurance (you know the middle man that will try everything not to pay for your treatment because it effects the bottom line). Anyone that knows anything about insurance is its a pain in the ass, on both sides. They have one doctor with 100 assistants denying people all day long. Also the people that can't afford and wont be able to pay their deductibles which again will keep raising cost. So drop the righteous Obama nut hugging attitude, this is a clusterfuck disguised in a clusterfuck.
 

canndo

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First off this is not guaranteed medical care, its guaranteed insurance (you know the middle man that will try everything not to pay for your treatment because it effects the bottom line). Anyone that knows anything about insurance is its a pain in the ass, on both sides. They have one doctor with 100 assistants denying people all day long. Also the people that can't afford and wont be able to pay their deductibles which again will keep raising cost. So drop the righteous Obama nut hugging attitude, this is a clusterfuck disguised in a clusterfuck.
What has this to do with shortages of doctors? What has this to do with doctors "considering" quitting. We might as well ask those 699 if they have "considered" cheating on their wives while we are at it.
 

nontheist

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What has this to do with shortages of doctors? What has this to do with doctors "considering" quitting. We might as well ask those 699 if they have "considered" cheating on their wives while we are at it.
Because it will make modern medicine an assembly line, second insurance companies are very difficult to work with they underpay, do stall tactics, etc. Listen I am not about free medical care but giving the private sector insurance fat cats control is the most ignorant idea of all.
 

ChesusRice

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Eighty-three percent of American physicians have considered leaving their practices over President Barack Obama’s health care reform law, according to a survey released by the Doctor Patient Medical Association.
The DPMA, a non-partisan association of doctors and patients

The Doctor Patient Medical Association (DPMA) and the Patient Power Alliance (PPA) work to repeal health care reform[SUP][1][/SUP] and call themselves a "a nonpartisan association of doctors and patients dedicated to preserving free choice in medicine."[SUP][2][/SUP] The organization is a member of the National Tea Party Federation[SUP][3][/SUP] and the "American Grassroots Coalition."[SUP][4][/SUP]

Ties to the American Legislative Exchange Council

The DPMA is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). DPMA Chair and Co-Founder, Kathryn Serkes, is on ALEC's Health and Human Services Task Force.[SUP][5]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doctor_Patient_Medical_Association

Any Questions? :-o
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tomahawk2406

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The Doctor Patient Medical Association (DPMA) and the Patient Power Alliance (PPA) work to repeal health care reform[SUP][1][/SUP] and call themselves a "a nonpartisan association of doctors and patients dedicated to preserving free choice in medicine."[SUP][2][/SUP] The organization is a member of the National Tea Party Federation[SUP][3][/SUP] and the "American Grassroots Coalition."[SUP][4][/SUP]

Ties to the American Legislative Exchange Council

The DPMA is a member of the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC). DPMA Chair and Co-Founder, Kathryn Serkes, is on ALEC's Health and Human Services Task Force.[SUP][5]

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Doctor_Patient_Medical_Association

Any Questions? :-o
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were talking about the daily fucking caller. rollinbud just doing what he does best.......... sucking wind


and copying and pasting of course
 

RyanTheRhino

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What has this to do with shortages of doctors? What has this to do with doctors "considering" quitting. We might as well ask those 699 if they have "considered" cheating on their wives while we are at it.
Because it forces doctors to accept patients but it dose not force insurance companies to cover the treatments so doctors will have to sit there and beg to be paid... Guess who wins that argument.
 

ChesusRice

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Because it forces doctors to accept patients but it dose not force insurance companies to cover the treatments so doctors will have to sit there and beg to be paid... Guess who wins that argument.

Really
The law doesnt force insurance companys to pay for treatments?
 

RyanTheRhino

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It forces doctors to accept the insurance from the healthcare reform so they go in and preform the treatments, but the insurance companies don't have to cover most treatments. If the person is poor & cant pay then it falls on the doctor to beg the insurance company to cover.

This health care will be good for a check up- and a prescription to codeine NyQuil. Break a leg or have a intensive surgery and you are still gonna be fucked financially.
 

chrishydro

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I am 51, when I was in High School the dream was to either be a Pilot, Auto Worker or Doctor. Now 30 some years later all of those jobs are crap. Sad state of the Union for sure. With that said, Doctors my say they are going to quit but dont think for a minute they will. All that schooling, all those years of practice, what are they going to do? Several of my neighbors are Pilots they say the same thing but not one can come up with an idea of what to do.

Besides we all bitch about ceos getting lots of money, two of my neighbiors make 500k a year and work maybe three days a week. Doctors make a ton of money around here, Im not saying they are not worth it but something has to give in all three of those examples.
 

tomahawk2406

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I am 51, when I was in High School the dream was to either be a Pilot, Auto Worker or Doctor. Now 30 some years later all of those jobs are crap. Sad state of the Union for sure. With that said, Doctors my say they are going to quit but dont think for a minute they will. All that schooling, all those years of practice, what are they going to do? Several of my neighbors are Pilots they say the same thing but not one can come up with an idea of what to do.

Besides we all bitch about ceos getting lots of money, two of my neighbiors make 500k a year and work maybe three days a week. Doctors make a ton of money around here, Im not saying they are not worth it but something has to give in all three of those examples.
how is becoming a doctor a crap job?
 

ChesusRice

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It forces doctors to accept the insurance from the healthcare reform so they go in and preform the treatments, but the insurance companies don't have to cover most treatments. If the person is poor & cant pay then it falls on the doctor to beg the insurance company to cover.

This health care will be good for a check up- and a prescription to codeine NyQuil. Break a leg or have a intensive surgery and you are still gonna be fucked financially.
Why becuase you say so?
Or you heard it from some one who heard it from some one who wrote a study about it at a Fright wing think tank?
 

tomahawk2406

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It forces doctors to accept the insurance from the healthcare reform so they go in and preform the treatments, but the insurance companies don't have to cover most treatments. If the person is poor & cant pay then it falls on the doctor to beg the insurance company to cover.

This health care will be good for a check up- and a prescription to codeine NyQuil. Break a leg or have a intensive surgery and you are still gonna be fucked financially.
see im gonna go ahead and call total and absolute bullshit. break a leg and be finically fucked?? really???
 

RyanTheRhino

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Why becuase you say so?
Or you heard it from some one who heard it from some one who wrote a study about it at a Fright wing think tank?
no because I read most of the bill ask Buck when he asked me what fines people would get if they didn't pay. This was way before the bill even made it to the supreme court btw
 
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