desert dude
Well-Known Member
Should the government, state or federal, outlaw objectionable thoughts?
Thought crimes?
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cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I don't think so. ~shyly peeks~ cn
desert dude
Well-Known Member
I agree with you. For a whole bunch of reasons, your thoughts should not be subject to state control or sanction, yet they are.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
I'm not sure how. That would require the state to have access to my thoughts. Uhm, do you know something that I don't? 
shock: or that I do? 
) cn
shock: or that I do? ) cn
desert dude
Well-Known Member
"Hate crimes" are thought crimes, aren't they?I'm not sure how. That would require the state to have access to my thoughts. Uhm, do you know something that I don't?
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
No; they are crimes of action and expression. The thought is not at issue afaik. A fellow who spends his life thinking atrociously bigoted things, but never utters or illustrates them, is 100% legal, even if he's wasting good lobe. cn
tokingtiger
Well-Known Member
Just the fact that " We the People" are having this discussion is disturbing.. With Obama taking all our rights and Romney as just a joke the 1% put in to make Obama look good, well, " We the People" can pick Obamney or wake the F up and vote in someone that is NOT a sell out to the 1%... and he will stop the Cannibis Prohibition! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdpcggfIt0U&feature=youtu.be Because there is a little "True Libertarian" in all of U.S.
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
so now we see the real reason you started this abortion fail of a thread.
intent and motive come into play at every trial, smarty.
now go start a thread about affirmative action without even understanding how it works.
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
hate crimes, beating up someone of your own race is better than beating someone of another?
kicking the shit out of a hetero is better than kicking the shit out of the ghey
being just a dickhead heartless thug who beats up his own is better than being a dickhead heartless thug who beats someone different.
I'm thinking all shitkickings stem from hate but apparently not.
kicking the shit out of a hetero is better than kicking the shit out of the ghey
being just a dickhead heartless thug who beats up his own is better than being a dickhead heartless thug who beats someone different.
I'm thinking all shitkickings stem from hate but apparently not.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
what about conspiracy?? all it takes for a conspiracy charge is 2 or more people getting together and talking about a crime.. no actions needed to get a conspiracy charge..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
it depends if you're beating up a gay person simply because they're gay or beating a black man simply for the color of his skin..
jessy koons
New Member
No they are very different. Ideas and actions are not the same and the concept of thoughts being criminal is a paranoid delusion.
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
beating a person is bad for most any reason, I'm no less a victim if I'm white and straight than if I'm black and gay.
What if i don't know he's gay and I'm just beating him because he took my parking spot? is that better? or does the crime change once it's established he's gay.
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
sounds like minority report
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
yes, it's not a hate crime if say a white guy gets into a fight with a black guy over say a parking spot or w/e.. there has to be an underlying reason for it to be considered a hate crime, ie, you got into the fight simply for the fact that he was black, or got into a fight with a gay person simply for the fact that they were gay..
at least that's the way i have always understood hate crimes.. they have to establish the fact that it was indeed a hate crime and not just a fight inbetween two people..
ginwilly
Well-Known Member
oh I'm sorry racerboy, i understand what a hate crime is, I didn't mean to give that impression. I just don't think they are necessary to be labelled as such. An asswhipping is usually bad no matter the reason, making it about race/religion/sex seems nonsensical. At least we can still beat up fat people or short people without it having extra baggage attached to it.
Political correctness is doing the same damage to society as the moral majority movement that came before it. It's all based on feelings with no regard to logic. Sorry I can't sell you my beer, it's Sunday, here take it for free and drink up, that's legal.
Political correctness is doing the same damage to society as the moral majority movement that came before it. It's all based on feelings with no regard to logic. Sorry I can't sell you my beer, it's Sunday, here take it for free and drink up, that's legal.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Am I a bad person because I found this very amusing? cn
ChesusRice
Well-Known Member
Still trying to rationalize your racism and bigotry as something acceptable?
Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
Knowing what I write on this site, just imagine my thought crimes.
Canna Sylvan
Well-Known Member
Aren't you happier knowing you were raped spur of the moment and your attacker didn't plan it? Imagine how much worse you'd feel later knowing your attack was planned days, or worse weeks in advance. It would anger me knowing I was raped cause my attacker thought I was gay. See, without hate laws, crimes are no longer done for warm and fuzzy cute bunny reasons. I want to know a person wants to fuck me right there and now, because we are so gay for eachother! Who doesn't want that world?