My logical take on creation/evolution/Genesis.

Doer

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cannabineer said:
Discovery is story as well, since it is a human tale of the history of both the finds and the ideas generated to explain them. It can be argued that all science is a humanity. It's just the the term has been appropriated, narrowed, by vaguely jealous students of literature and human history. Until those upstart Cartesians and Newtonians, history and divinity were the queens of human learning. cn
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And before that, oral story telling. Word for word. Generations beyond generations. I don't think we can leave out Aristotle, can we? Bronze and stone works? Masonic and Painter Guilds. All the carefully won and guarded knowledge of how things work. All are opposed by religion unless you kowtow to the ridiculous. I mean, if the Bible is the word of God, why so stupid? Why is God trying so hard to dumb us down?

There was a lot of knowledge, close kept. Writing allows organization of power. Power of repeatable science and power of fear. Printing the Bible? Priceless. The Gutenberg collision with reason. The Politics, by Aristotle, IMO, could have put us on a much better track, perhaps. The story of man is a two story house, I think. It's the story of Reason and Fear.
 
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konagirl420 said:
Hehe it is you all I feel sorry for I know the truth so I don't have to sit here and answer questions you can google them if you want all I did was say what I believe ;)
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There you go. Claiming you have special knowledge and now you feel sorry? Can I get a damnation? You too can google.
 
tyler.durden

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konagirl420 said:
Lol I never claimed anything special except knowing the truth hahaha
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Are you just trolling, or are you genuinely this ignorant? We know what you know, but you do not know what we know. If you read the actual scientific facts (Ancestor's Tale is a great start for a layperson like yourself), you'd at least know what you are arguing against. There are amazing theistic minds out there that can very effectively make your arguments, mainly because they are familiar with the actual data. You seem to have the comfort of belief and opinion without the effort of thought. Grow up...
 
Chief Walkin Eagle

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I think if you read the bible, you'd know its not the truth. If the bible was the truth then you'd have to shut the fuck up, the bible says women dont have the right to speak unless requested to. The bible also says if a virgin is raped then the person who raped her has to be her husband. The bible promotes hate and ignorance, but there is tiny bits of truth in the bible.
 
konagirl420

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That's the old testiment, Jesus has died and paid the price for everyone's sin now and you are the one that is misinformed ;)
 
Padawanbater2

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@ kona, you understand while belief is subjective to each individual, reality and the tools we use to understand it (science) are true whether anyone believes them or not, right? You believing the sky is red doesn't change the fact that the sky is blue..

This is the major benefit science has over faith. If mankind went extinct tomorrow and another intelligent species arose millions of years later, science would still be the same. But if humanity went extinct, how sure are you that Christianity would arise exactly the same way? (doesn't that say a lot about the truth behind Christianity?)
 
konagirl420

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I am not asking anyone to to "convert " I have the right to believe what I believe and so do you ;) I have seen too many things and been through too many things in my life not to believe thanks so I have made my choice nothing you could say or do would change my mind ;)
 
Kaendar

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Kona, please stop while you can. You are making theists look bad. You have to realize that while the bible is true, some of it should not be taken quite literally, or at least be aware that in some of the parts like genesis, alot of the details are left out. For example, god didnt create the universe in 7 human days, he created it in 7 of his days, which means billions of years.
 
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