Anyone in their 20's have a good full time job?
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Jogro
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I'm a "little" older now, but when I was in my mid 20s, yes, I had a full time job, my own car, and owned my own home.
Car wasn't exactly "great" (it was a used compact), but it got me from point A to point B OK, I owned it outright, and paid insurance every month.
Home wasn't exactly "great" (it was a one bedroom apt), but again, I owned the title, and paid the mortgage every month.
How did I do it? Worked hard (60+ hours/week, made damn sure not to take on excess student loan debt (I had a little, but nowhere near what lots of kids have today), and kept all my living expenses as low as possible (brown bagged my lunch for years, bought generic food, bought used clothes, didn't blow money on expensive cable TV, drugs, etc). Being single with no dependents didn't HURT, though being married with a working spouse probably would have made it EASIER. (You pool expenses, that way).
Can it be done today? Yes, and in fact with the economic downturn, both cars and houses are CHEAPER today, than they were when I was there. I actually know multiple people in their mid 20s who have their own places (renting and/or looking to buy), and cars, and full time jobs, etc. The common denominator between them is they're all self-made and work hard. No excuses, no "I can't", no "I won't", no wasting money or time.
It is easy? Hell no.
Hard work and fiscal discipline are never easy, and finding a job nowadays *IS* harder for young people compared to even just 10 years ago.
Car wasn't exactly "great" (it was a used compact), but it got me from point A to point B OK, I owned it outright, and paid insurance every month.
Home wasn't exactly "great" (it was a one bedroom apt), but again, I owned the title, and paid the mortgage every month.
How did I do it? Worked hard (60+ hours/week, made damn sure not to take on excess student loan debt (I had a little, but nowhere near what lots of kids have today), and kept all my living expenses as low as possible (brown bagged my lunch for years, bought generic food, bought used clothes, didn't blow money on expensive cable TV, drugs, etc). Being single with no dependents didn't HURT, though being married with a working spouse probably would have made it EASIER. (You pool expenses, that way).
Can it be done today? Yes, and in fact with the economic downturn, both cars and houses are CHEAPER today, than they were when I was there. I actually know multiple people in their mid 20s who have their own places (renting and/or looking to buy), and cars, and full time jobs, etc. The common denominator between them is they're all self-made and work hard. No excuses, no "I can't", no "I won't", no wasting money or time.
It is easy? Hell no.
Hard work and fiscal discipline are never easy, and finding a job nowadays *IS* harder for young people compared to even just 10 years ago.
notoriousbuds
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Im 22, live in the UK, drive an Audi A4 Quattro, bought a re-possession semi detached house a little over a year ago, with a friend. Full re-wire, modernisation etc. and I bought him out, and moved into it, with my Fiance, and our 2 little girls (6 months & 3 years) she's a stay at home mum, I go to work as sales & marketing manager for a magazine.
Luckily, I left school and went straight to work (builders merchants) worked my way up, and got offered job after job!...now i've got 7+ years full time - work experience, and find myself to be highly employable compared to most of my mates who went to college / uni route.
However, the Country as a whole is in a VERY SAD state of affairs...bank of england just printing more money, a government that cant govern, legality left, right and centre with a Policy Force enforcing it, thats not worth a W*NK. The worlds in dire straights but most people seem asleep to the fact. Pretty upsetting really...sometimes I think "what world have I brought my daughters into!?"
Luckily, I left school and went straight to work (builders merchants) worked my way up, and got offered job after job!...now i've got 7+ years full time - work experience, and find myself to be highly employable compared to most of my mates who went to college / uni route.
However, the Country as a whole is in a VERY SAD state of affairs...bank of england just printing more money, a government that cant govern, legality left, right and centre with a Policy Force enforcing it, thats not worth a W*NK. The worlds in dire straights but most people seem asleep to the fact. Pretty upsetting really...sometimes I think "what world have I brought my daughters into!?"
hmmmmm.....
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all i can say about war, is just cause they have different hats doesnt mean you should bowl into their place with guns,tanks and a shit load of bullets ruining a mans daily routene. (if the shoe was on the other foot and we had heros from afgan came walkin in with guns) and i ask one question which rich old brown cock smoking mans territory are you fighting for? i better add that im quoting george carling really but atleast that man saw truth in it all.
209 Cali closet grower
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It don't make money.
shwaysted
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And fuck you tootrue that. fuck war and fuck the "hero's" stupid enough to fight it.
i work in a call center 24 hours a week and make enough to pay ALL the bills.
SFguy
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HEY MORON if you can read this thank a teacher.....
IF YOUR READING IT IN ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!! THANK A VET
Banditt
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I'm 32 now. But bought my house when I was in my 20's. Also owned my own car at that time. I graduated from college in 03. Bought a home in 08. Stay in school. Having those things in your 20's with a "McJob" is hard to do unless you are great at saving or have family support.
budsmoker87
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Just got myself a $120k/year job (after taxes) + bonuses and full benefits
WAWAAWEEEWAAhhh
WAWAAWEEEWAAhhh
Good for you budsmoker!
I'm lucky too, Dad put me through prep school and college to get my B.S. in engineering.
I worked for 3 years as an Engineer and quit to own my own company. I was making good bank I guess 60K but it wasn't enough for me. I only saved 45K over three years, and most of that went into my 401K. The rest I spent buying my motorcycle, building my car, etc. I left with about 15K in the bank 6 months ago.
I can't make a living off of growing (legally), optimistically I'll make 20K /yr and about $5 dollars / hr on a legal grow, and thats working hard to keep costs down and profits high. I don't have enough distribution contacts to start an illegal grow anyway, and I can't stomach the risk. We are only really allowed to grow for 5 patients here, and patients are rarely willing to give street prices or dispensary prices and expect a heavy discount on only the top quality stuff.
There are several companies you can start out of 'thin air' with little cash such as
+Greenhouse grows if you have some access to land and good climate
+Indoor grows, can make a tiny little bit of scratch if you work hard and are handy and have a green thumb
+Cleaning services - independent or Merry Maid type services. Highly competitive.
+Construction Services - depending on your abilities, state laws. I went through an online class + test for a little under $500 buxs. You can start a handyman service or start in a small niche so you don't have to compete with the big boys. Still highly competitive
+Online Merchant - places like EBAY, if you're good with computers and mathematics you can make this work
+Importer - to sell at above if you have enough scratch to start
I'm sure there are more, these are just the ones that I've thought about because they fit will with my skills.
I am blessed to have parents that put me through prep school and then college, and I got an education that allows me to have insight into many things that are helpful for all the businesses above (except cleaning, I suck at that!).
If you've got no education, average or below intelligence, you're not good-looking, you're not a people person, you don't have decent plans, and you're not willing to work hard the world won't be kind to you.
If however you've got just one of the above you can still make it work in America, and you can tell the masses slewing about the poor economy to suck it!
I have a house, but would never be able to afford it without my girlfriend and her parents, so being single ain't all that if your girl is well off. Mine is extremely so.
Peace.
I'm lucky too, Dad put me through prep school and college to get my B.S. in engineering.
I worked for 3 years as an Engineer and quit to own my own company. I was making good bank I guess 60K but it wasn't enough for me. I only saved 45K over three years, and most of that went into my 401K. The rest I spent buying my motorcycle, building my car, etc. I left with about 15K in the bank 6 months ago.
I can't make a living off of growing (legally), optimistically I'll make 20K /yr and about $5 dollars / hr on a legal grow, and thats working hard to keep costs down and profits high. I don't have enough distribution contacts to start an illegal grow anyway, and I can't stomach the risk. We are only really allowed to grow for 5 patients here, and patients are rarely willing to give street prices or dispensary prices and expect a heavy discount on only the top quality stuff.
There are several companies you can start out of 'thin air' with little cash such as
+Greenhouse grows if you have some access to land and good climate
+Indoor grows, can make a tiny little bit of scratch if you work hard and are handy and have a green thumb
+Cleaning services - independent or Merry Maid type services. Highly competitive.
+Construction Services - depending on your abilities, state laws. I went through an online class + test for a little under $500 buxs. You can start a handyman service or start in a small niche so you don't have to compete with the big boys. Still highly competitive
+Online Merchant - places like EBAY, if you're good with computers and mathematics you can make this work
+Importer - to sell at above if you have enough scratch to start
I'm sure there are more, these are just the ones that I've thought about because they fit will with my skills.
I am blessed to have parents that put me through prep school and then college, and I got an education that allows me to have insight into many things that are helpful for all the businesses above (except cleaning, I suck at that!).
If you've got no education, average or below intelligence, you're not good-looking, you're not a people person, you don't have decent plans, and you're not willing to work hard the world won't be kind to you.
If however you've got just one of the above you can still make it work in America, and you can tell the masses slewing about the poor economy to suck it!
I have a house, but would never be able to afford it without my girlfriend and her parents, so being single ain't all that if your girl is well off. Mine is extremely so.
Peace.
Silicity
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i'm only 18 years old and i've already moved 3000miles away from my mothers house, purchased a car, worked in bristol bay alaska doing hard work, 16+hr shifts, and have already made over 20g's in the past 8 months and have accomplished quite a bit while baked most of the time 
Canibus7
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Thats crazyy, how si the bud up therei'm only 18 years old and i've already moved 3000miles away from my mothers house, purchased a car, worked in bristol bay alaska doing hard work, 16+hr shifts, and have already made over 20g's in the past 8 months and have accomplished quite a bit while baked most of the time
budsmoker87
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nice what do u do silicity
Silicity
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Seafood processing, good hours with upto 5 weeks solid 16hr shifts for 1-5months depending on season.
Zdeezy
Member
I graduated high school in june of 2008. My Jr. and Sr. year i went to career center for half of the day then went to the highschool the other half. I studied precision machining and got a job 1 month after my 18th birthday and graduation. It has now been 4 1/2 years since ive started working there. My work gives me full, medical, dental, vision, and life insurance. 3 weeks paid vacation, and pay for my school. I go to community college for engineering. Ive owned my own house since i was 20, bought my first car (2006 impala) when i was 18, paid it off in 1 1/2 years. I also got in a boat load of trouble, did 5 months in jail, 3 years of probation and paid over $15,000 in court problems. Its all about how you manage your money and what you do with it. My parents never helped me out financially, my dad owns his own business and i worked with him since i was 8 years old. This taught me to respect my hard earned money and taught me not to blow it on stupid shit. It taught me that with money, you can make more money! Once i learned that money makes money, i was rarely broke.
ElfoodStampo
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I just turned 30, graduated from a Big 10 school with a degree in financial planning, only to graduate and shortly there after learn the whole game is rigged. There is no true free market anymore. You and me both bought into the schedule of high school, higher education, great job, work hard get anything. Until I was 26 I felt that was "life". That whole way of thinking is very "I'll be taken care of".
I wont lie, I've done pretty well, buy using the people I know. That't the game, its who you know, not what you know. The whole time we were fed that story every other kid was too. Now Bachelors degrees are a dime a dozen. No body cares any more about education or they expect everyone already has one. Colleges accepted anyone, because they got big federal bucks in tuition through student loans. It's sad, but the whole thing is a joke, in my opinion. So you talk to family and friends and find a job,
I have a house I pay for. I work 50+ hrs a week, and get ok benefits, but ok is better than none. As soon as you think your getting ahead, gas goes up a dollar. Milk costs 3.00 TAXES go up... want more wages?? sure!! we'll just inflate the money supply some more to make your dollars worth a little less than before you got your raise!!
My advice would be either be willing to bend your moral compass, or wait until society degrades to the point we start over, be the first to do something good and well for others.
The house I bought is worth less than I owe I'm pretty sure. I bought it so I could grow. haha if it goes under I'll walk. fuck credit. that's another big scam. they make u think u cant live without credit. It's all bullshit.
There are currently no drivers in the economy that can globally revive business. We live in very strange times, but I believe it will get better.
Sorry for the rant.
All the things you listed as bummers arent that bad BTW. all include people which is the best part of life. if you start looking at it like that, the rest will fall into place.
hotrodharley
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Closing in on 70. I'll assure you life can be lived without credit. It's not easy at times but when bad turns worse you aren't wondering about keeping your goods. They're already yours. Housing? Fuck that game. This underwater mortgage gig blew that myth out of the water. Yet "they" persist in assuring you that, overall, it is your best investment. Bullshit. Theoretically maybe. In reality, and when your 60+, good luck in hanging in there while "the market is improving".
hotrodharley
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Here's a hint to anyone with a clean record (or explainable in many cases so long as they are not violent crimes) for a job that is secure, pays well and you need no training going in. Hemodialysis technician. Walk in, fill out the application and actually mean it when you say you are willing to work hard to learn. These centers are everywhere and most are owned by one of two companies worldwide. Fresenius or DaVita. Look in your phone books or online for dialysis centers near you. Fresenius will pay for your college classes (pass with a "C" or better and they reimburse you fully for the tuition, books etc) if you get a RN degree. Those come in 2 or 4 years. The pay for techs is usually over 1/2 what they pay RNs. Damned good money for inside work with no training going in.