Swerves "girl scout cookies" are fake

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wheelt01

wheelt01

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I know this place loves to get its' hate on but the dude has legit gear and appears to be one of the few breeders who is accessible on multiple boards. Hell he is even man enough to admit when he messes something up. As to all the GSC nonsense I will wait until the seeds are released and I actually grow them before I decide if they suck or not.
 
polyarcturus

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ummm why dont you guys just take his word for it? even if it wasnt the real GSC, what reason does he have to lie at this point? he could have released it as anal cake and some CC fan would have bought it. point being, his strains, his names, his call, it has to be top notch regardless(fake or not), because he has a reputation to uphold.

from what ive seen and hear CC is top notch, i go according to breeder skills not names not always genetics unless im after specific genes, and then even in that case, if its a good enough fake whats the difference, the "fake" could be better than the original. and there has been a few cases of this in the past.
 
Nightmarecreature

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Smoke the fake Cookies and smoke the real Cookies. Big difference and yes, it matters. That would be like taking Mexican Brick weed and calling it Tahoe OG.
 
69Bandit

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polyarcturus said:
ummm why dont you guys just take his word for it? even if it wasnt the real GSC, what reason does he have to lie at this point? he could have released it as anal cake and some CC fan would have bought it. point being, his strains, his names, his call, it has to be top notch regardless(fake or not), because he has a reputation to uphold.

from what ive seen and hear CC is top notch, i go according to breeder skills not names not always genetics unless im after specific genes, and then even in that case, if its a good enough fake whats the difference, the "fake" could be better than the original. and there has been a few cases of this in the past.
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fucking win.


makes me think though.... perhaps GSC is just a really rare phenotype and not actually a strain.
 
Red leader

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Drain2waste said:
Don't let swerve sell you his lies. He's as fake as a 3 dollar bill.
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Or queer as a football bat?
No but seriously dude, I see your point, but...
you seem to be taking it a little to personal. A bit too heated?
Ive tried his gear, and liked it. I bet a lot of peeps on here think they have tried
"the real" gsc, and it wasn't. Good is good. The real the real the real lmao.
 
racerboy71

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all of these breeders play this game.. at least it's a girl scout cookies cut and he's not calling white widow gsc's imo.. how many people who grow out cali con's beans are even going to know what the other gsc cut tastes like?? very few imo, or they wouldn't be buying his gsc to begin with..
i've seen humbuldt's blue dream in some journals, and i just got done running the real deal clone only blue dream.. world of difference between my plants that had long , thin, sativa dom leaves and structures, and these have way more narrow, wide leaved, indica looking plants.. but i'm sure the person growing it has no clue and is more then happy to even be able to sample the infamous blue dream since 99% of seed buyers don't have access to legit clone only's..
just my $.02
 
sensisensai

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I've always liked swerves gear. Never trashed the genetics themselves. In my personal experience his gear is just as hit or miss as most out there. The issue is the person behind it. If u order through attitude there's just as good of a chance ull get fire as with any breeder in my experience. That doesn't change the fact that he's a snake in the grass just waiting for an opportunity to rip someone off. If i bought seeds i would refuse to contribute to a person of such nature... I've always said "swerve was a warning not a handle" avoid the Guy at all cost. Good genetics but look who the purchase helps support.
 
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althor

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sensisensai said:
I've always liked swerves gear. Never trashed the genetics themselves. In my personal experience his gear is just as hit or miss as most out there. The issue is the person behind it. If u order through attitude there's just as good of a chance ull get fire as with any breeder in my experience. That doesn't change the fact that he's a snake in the grass just waiting for an opportunity to rip someone off. If i bought seeds i would refuse to contribute to a person of such nature... I've always said "swerve was a warning not a handle" avoid the Guy at all cost. Good genetics but look who the purchase helps support.
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Well the only problem with that is Swerve seems to be the main guy willing to put it out there. People like to hold onto their clone only strains so people who live in areas without access are SOL. If Swerve offers them, people are going to buy them. If the so-called good guys offered these strains then Swerve might lose business.
 
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Drain2waste

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He always has and always will be a liar. I wish everyone in here could see how I have him back peddling his stories and getting caught on his lies on Instagram. Maybe ill take some screen shots of him getting caught in lies and trying to talk his way out if it and upload them here for every1 to see. Heated? Not at all bruh, happy smoking every1
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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sensisensai said:
I've always liked swerves gear. Never trashed the genetics themselves. In my personal experience his gear is just as hit or miss as most out there. The issue is the person behind it. If u order through attitude there's just as good of a chance ull get fire as with any breeder in my experience. That doesn't change the fact that he's a snake in the grass just waiting for an opportunity to rip someone off. If i bought seeds i would refuse to contribute to a person of such nature... I've always said "swerve was a warning not a handle" avoid the Guy at all cost. Good genetics but look who the purchase helps support.
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the more i get to learn about the industry, the more i find that a lot of people out there are like swerve and many others.. they all talk about the scene and helping each other out, yet they're really just out there for the money.. some are a bit more unscrupulous then others ime, and there are some left that are true to themselves, but they tend to be lesser known breeders who maybe haven't had that big taste of fame that seees to go to a lot of people's head, in this business or any other for that matter..
i do try and support some of the smaller breeders who don't charge and arm and a leg for their gear and bring the fire, but i also can't over look someone who brings a strain like tahoe og to the masses..
everybody has their quirks imo.. you as a consumer just have to know how much bs you're willing to accept to get some dank in your garden and whom you're willing to support.
 
sensisensai

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althor said:
Well the only problem with that is Swerve seems to be the main guy willing to put it out there. People like to hold onto their clone only strains so people who live in areas without access are SOL. If Swerve offers them, people are going to buy them. If the so-called good guys offered these strains then Swerve might lose business.
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The issue is u don't get what ur told u bought. His gsc is likely fire. However its not gsc and he's misleading the blind and uninformed. That's wrong no matter how u cut it. Then factor in the person behind it all. He's a con artist and nothing more. I know a fair deal of growers and breeders whom swerve has gotten a few "clone only" strains. And by the breeders own admition have intentionally given him random mid shelf cuttings. They know he's an idiot and nothing good is likely to come from him getting a true clone only cut. Just a long bullshit story about how he created it and brought it to be like he claims with all his strains. A surprising amount of effort and hoarding take place in thus circle just to avoid him getting his hands on the elites. He can order and breed all the hybrids he wants but he will never get a pure original from any breeder I know. The Guy is bad news. Remember when bush tried that whole "if u buy weed u support al Qaeda"? This is kinda that same deal lol. U buy from him you support a lying thieving con artist.
 
sensisensai

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racerboy71 said:
the more i get to learn about the industry, the more i find that a lot of people out there are like swerve and many others.. they all talk about the scene and helping each other out, yet they're really just out there for the money.. some are a bit more unscrupulous then others ime, and there are some left that are true to themselves, but they tend to be lesser known breeders who maybe haven't had that big taste of fame that seees to go to a lot of people's head, in this business or any other for that matter..
i do try and support some of the smaller breeders who don't charge and arm and a leg for their gear and bring the fire, but i also can't over look someone who brings a strain like tahoe og to the masses..
everybody has their quirks imo.. you as a consumer just have to know how much bs you're willing to accept to get some dank in your garden and whom you're willing to support.
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very well put. I try and support my breeders locally (local stock always performs well and there's a lot of talent in my area. My issue isn't he breeders. Its the seedbanks and their insane prices. I grew up in the circle so I've got a pretty good sense of who is who. But as such I have fair knowledge on what its cost many to produce seeds compared to what attitude offers them per seed.. the breeders don't really clear too much cash by days end. Especially in comparison to the seedbanks typical 600% markup
 
racerboy71

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sensisensai said:
It'd take a fool to disagree with that. As it would to disagree with the fact that it doesn't make it right by any measure.
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i'm not saying it's right, not by a long shot, but go to any seed bank and type in the words white widow.. you'll probably have pages of hits for that one strain alone..
now, how many of those strains do you think were made by the same 2 parents that shanti used all those years ago when he made the og ww? not many, if any would be my guess..
it is what it is.. since most people don't have access to the real thing, they're willing to accept w/e they can get their hands on that they think is as close to the real thing they can get their hands on.. it's eff'ed up, don't get me wrong, but unless you live in say cali and can walk into any number of clubs and get yourself a good cut, what can you do?? even cuts get passed around as something they're not, another pretty shitty thing imo, but it is what it is.. this is a mostly black market product we're talking about, there is no copy rights etc..
 
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echlectica

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I don't understand how the fuck people keep saying that OG kush and GDP are "clone only" or ever really were. I was given hundreds of seeds of several strains years ago that people keep saying are clone only. So I looked up the possible "origins" of some of these clone only strains and basically they are just phenotypes of some old Humboldt outdoor kush strains that people in Mendocino aclimated to indoors. There are plenty of seeds of these strains on farms in Humboldt, and grow rooms in Mendocino.
IMO these clowns like swerve and ken estes are just using old Humboldt and Mendo bag seed and clones that have been traded around for years and years and sefling them whcih fucks them up big time and then selling people that for top dollar.
Well I have a bunch of old shcool Emerald Triangle genetics in seed for and there was no selfing involved.
All these guys ripping people off and spread shit genetics around really grinds my gears, so over the next few years I'm going to put out some real good shit in seed form, no selfed crap shoots.
 
Jogro

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Don't know what Swerve has, don't care. FWIW Riot Ceeds is also supposedly coming out with Girl Scout Cookies S1 shortly (and I'm not buying those either). With the feeding frenzy over this line, others will probably be jumping on the bandwagon soon too.

Some of these ceed-versions of "rare" cuts are great, some are phenotypically variable, and some turn out to be hermie-prone disappointments. With so many good commercial strains out there right now, personally, I'm not jumping in line, with a big chunk of cash in hand to be a guinea pig for someone's untested line.

If the ceed version is good, it will still be around in a year or two, and I can try it then. If not. . .eh. . .it probably wasn't that good, and something else will be along to replace it.

Meanwhile, I just love how everyone is jumping all up and down clamoring for this "flavor of the month." A year from now it will be some other line.


Swerve has officially been exposed for claiming to have the thin mint Girl Scout cookie pheno when it's really fortune cookies
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"Officially", huh?

No offense, but why does this statement make me burst out laughing?

I'm reminded of the SNL sketch with the teenagers yelling "I'm more Goth than you!".

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/97/97kgothtalk.phtml
Circe Nightshade: My name is not Stephanie! It's Circy Nightshade, Denise! And anyway you can shove Orlando! I'm a hundred times more Goth than you are and I always have been!
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