"bag appeal" is a fucking LIE! stop lying and call it SCHWAG appeal!

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canna_420

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no what hazey wants is his local dealer grows some 16wk thai that as no proffit after the time it takes etc.........

Its never going to happen unless he gets to a med disp


and he makes it up chats shit as good knows where he gets his numbers from.... Maybe a forum thread with 3 ppl 2 likes high one likes stoned???


them high making sativas are the demonds making cannabis look bad as someone like you with sativa in them is dangerous as they cant handle the glitchyness
 

Thundercat

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I would never call any cannabis a demon. It was given to us by god to use as we each see fit.

Its kinda like candy bars, no one candy bar is the best, some times you feel like a nut some times you don't. Some people like snickers, some prolly hate them.
 

tharoomman

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All I know is I read in one of the quotes that the best bud he(whoever ) smoked was off a male.


And I did paraphrase a bit, but still.... Do I even need to explain?

We all have our opinions and I'm not hating. But the whole male plant thing really gets me. Sounds like something I'd hear some random pothead on the street say.
 

Pipe Dream

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beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Pure sativa and commercial buds don't look as appealing as homegrown indicas and hybrids. Just look at the old school high times magazines. Bag appeal doesn't tell the whole story of quality it is what is pleasing to the eyes.
 

racerboy71

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beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Pure sativa and commercial buds don't look as appealing as homegrown indicas and hybrids. Just look at the old school high times magazines. Bag appeal doesn't tell the whole story of quality it is what is pleasing to the eyes.
i agree pipe, this is why breeders like subcool are pretty popular as they (he) puts out pretty buds that are pretty to look at but lack in the potency dpt..
the same could be said of the the popularity in the purple strains.. pretty on the eyes, but not always the most potent of smokes.. :(
 

Pipe Dream

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i agree pipe, this is why breeders like subcool are pretty popular as they (he) puts out pretty buds that are pretty to look at but lack in the potency dpt..
the same could be said of the the popularity in the purple strains.. pretty on the eyes, but not always the most potent of smokes.. :(
exactly. I used to drool over colorful plants when I started out growing, and still do.
 

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Thundercat

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I've always wanted a full color plant just because, but have never bothered to pull the trigger because I've always heard they lack in potancy. Now I'm sure there are some that are still great, but I'd rather have things other then the color.
 

Thundercat

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Thats why I only grow males, and I tell ya its hard. Feminized seeds are all over but its hard to find only males seeds.












(disclaimer: I kid, I kid)
 

hazey grapes

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I'm sorry, but if the "quality of the high" with the current day weed you get is "lame" compared to the weed you got in the '80's, when weed was much less potent,
there... see just how insidious the LIES of bag appeal are?! you seem to think potency is only a factor of how big the resin glands are. IT'S NOT!!! THC profile makes and even bigger difference.

if you even knew WTF you were were talking about, you'd retract that statement as hit for hit, columbian gold is just as potent as ANY indica up to the stickiest and stoniest i've ever blazed in potency, unless you think of taking two hits and falling asleep as fun. if you ever took 4 full woofing one hitters of columbian gold, you'd know what REAL potency is when you start tripping and the room starts spinning and you PRAY for the sweet relief of sleep as you've just went "one toke over the line" just like the song says or experience the "swelling itching brain" effect from said devo's song.

it's not how big the resin glands are, but what's in them that determines potency. i've smoked more than one "sticky bud" that was pissweak too BTW and have gone through an eigth in LESS than 2 days on shit like that. an eigth of columbian would easily last 4 days as a gram a day was a total wake and bake binge, and that's going for a full high just short of "ODing" all day every day as the buzz was long lasting too.

potency, in general, is just another bag appeal penis envy "look how big it is" lie. by that reasoning, battery acid is more potent than orange juice. a potent suck is just more of a bad thing. me? i'll take pissweak mexican brick over "bag appeal" schwag every time. even a truly weak high is better than the strongest stone for me, but i have no love of being stoned at all. it only pisses me off.

if you actually LIKE potent stones better, that's your biz though. i don't think MOST people would rather be stoned than high though, regardless of potency, and a light high can be VERY fun too like 8 miles high. i like at how mellow and friendly that 24/7 buzz is myself.

the fun of getting high isn't how potent the effect is, but WHAT the effect is, and bag appeal lies try to deny the potency of sativas which will fuck you up and hurt you if you don't respect their limits man. i'm serious... spinning room is one of the least fun experiences in life.

Thats why I only grow males, and I tell ya its hard.
way to go out on a limb there, but i think jorge cervantes would agree with you there as i'm pretty sure i was his book that assessed the potency of male plants as superior with abysimal yields. i've smoked male flowers a few times though and haven't had any spectacular buzzes of them yet.

it cracks me up, in general, how people get so attached to the status quo about ANYTHING, that everyone loses their fucking minds whenever someone challenges their long held expectations. i'm always taking flack for the days when i couldn't resist leaflet trim (as suggested by cervantes and NOT shabby at all if you have good strains) by trolls who've never even fucking tried it that "know" how bad it sucks. that's the fucking difference between KNOWING something, and thinking it. early leaf kicks fan leaf ass! i KNOW because i've actually smoked it, but it never stops instigators who've never even tried from ASSUMING it sucks and you know what they say about assume.

even supposedly "rational" scientists get their panties in a bunch when new and often correct theories challenge their old assumptions. for many, just being used to an idea is all it takes for them to assume it's actually true. why just today i learned that the milky way is probably 50% lighter than previously thought for i don't know how long on yahoo news.
 

racerboy71

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i disagree where you think lots and lots of people don't preferred being stoned over being high hazy, as that's obviously wrong...
different people prefer different types of highs, whether it's an upper or a downer.. this is why we have both cocaine and heroin.. :D

and some people's body chemisty might be screwed up and an indica may get them high where it gets me or you stoned.. this would be akin of giving a hyperactive kid ridlan to calm them down, but if i were to take it, it would speed me up..
not only that, lots of people just don't like the racy, paranoia associated with a good sativa, and prefer the lazy stoned effect from indicas..

personally, i like sativa's better as i'm lazy enough, and love the thinkyness of sativa's, but indica's still have a place in my life.. say late at night when i can't sleep, or on a rainy day when i have nothing better to do for the day buy lay around and feel lazy..

chocolate and vanilla imo.. or maybe even strawberry, who know's? i'm not going to hate on someone because they like strawberry and i do not, so long as i can still walk into a grocery store and get me some chocolate, i'm cool with it.
 

Thundercat

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Honestly man I think the reason so many people are giving you a hard time is you are being very bull headed. You obviously really like sativas, so do I, but you have been talking out your ass repeating the same things over and over again "you'll pray for the sweet relief of sleep" or "being stoned pisses me off". Try being a little less dogmatic, and trying to force your opinions on others. I gaurentee if you took weed from the 70-80s and grew it out next to todays weed it would all be very potent. Because the growing styles have changed tremendously, and people have learned alot about growing without seeds, and in prefect enviroments. The key here is under these growing conditions its gonna look like bad ass weed in the bag whether its a sativa, indica, or a hybrid. Though some times you might get a bag that looks good but isn't I'd usually blame the grower, and this occurance is much less frequent then not getting high or stoned or anything other then a headache from some schwag. Its also very possible that there is much more indica genetics around since the 80s and the US deciding to set up army bases in the middle east, and since you don't like indica highs, you don't like todays weeed.

My biggest suggestion is to really get good at growing and grow out some good sativa genetics. There are many out there, greenhouse seeds offers wide variety, as do many others. I've been looking for the last 2 years to try to find Willie Nelson, its a 90% sativa I believe that I think seedman seeds breed. Supposedy it got the name cus Willie said it was one of his favorite smokes.

I guess what I'm getting at is instead of bitching online about something you can't change or control, grow something you can!

Peace TC
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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i disagree where you think lots and lots of people don't preferred being stoned over being high hazy, as that's obviously wrong...
different people prefer different types of highs, whether it's an upper or a downer.. this is why we have both cocaine and heroin.. :D

and some people's body chemisty might be screwed up and an indica may get them high where it gets me or you stoned.. this would be akin of giving a hyperactive kid ridlan to calm them down, but if i were to take it, it would speed me up..
not only that, lots of people just don't like the racy, paranoia associated with a good sativa, and prefer the lazy stoned effect from indicas..

personally, i like sativa's better as i'm lazy enough, and love the thinkyness of sativa's, but indica's still have a place in my life.. say late at night when i can't sleep, or on a rainy day when i have nothing better to do for the day buy lay around and feel lazy..

chocolate and vanilla imo.. or maybe even strawberry, who know's? i'm not going to hate on someone because they like strawberry and i do not, so long as i can still walk into a grocery store and get me some chocolate, i'm cool with it.
But, . . but.
This is clearly a hate thread.
So get busy & hate something ~!
 

Thundercat

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i disagree where you think lots and lots of people don't preferred being stoned over being high hazy, as that's obviously wrong...
different people prefer different types of highs, whether it's an upper or a downer.. this is why we have both cocaine and heroin.. :D

and some people's body chemisty might be screwed up and an indica may get them high where it gets me or you stoned.. this would be akin of giving a hyperactive kid ridlan to calm them down, but if i were to take it, it would speed me up..
not only that, lots of people just don't like the racy, paranoia associated with a good sativa, and prefer the lazy stoned effect from indicas..

personally, i like sativa's better as i'm lazy enough, and love the thinkyness of sativa's, but indica's still have a place in my life.. say late at night when i can't sleep, or on a rainy day when i have nothing better to do for the day buy lay around and feel lazy..

chocolate and vanilla imo.. or maybe even strawberry, who know's? i'm not going to hate on someone because they like strawberry and i do not, so long as i can still walk into a grocery store and get me some chocolate, i'm cool with it.
sorry to double post but this is very well put and maybe being nicer then I was, and it wasn't up when I was typing.
 
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