13/11 light cycle???

[Diablos]

ive been running 11/13 for a long time now. it is slightly more efficient (IME) than a direct 12/12 which never occurs in nature.

i have tried all the light schedules you can think of personally i prefer a rotating time schedule so i can take full advantage of more light without interrupting the normal PFR cyle.(rotating schedule meaning Sunday 10/14 to Saturday 14/10 slowly increasing the amount of light time over the week to restart back on sunday. at 10/14 again and so on.)

Thats a very theoretically correct hypothesis, GODAMNIT, Elfwoodstampo has locked my brain in "engaged mode", excuse the large vocab.

Im interested in your cycle, id just like to know a little more before i adopt your shedule, theoretically it makes sense to me.

What did you base this decision on, please dont say word of mouth...

Going for a walk to reset my mind, gotta bring myself back down

 

[ElfoodStampo]

shut up honestly

i run 12/12 from seed and if i didnt id probably run like 14 and then to compensate for it not being real sun id add an hour or two so 16/8

The plant is prepared for what your doing to it. Its programmed to work. It's possible to germinate cannabis seeds with no light.
I hear what your saying, thats not what was being discussed. I was told you cannot affect the growth cycles of plants by whoever. Its possible to retard or inhibit, traits and growth though environmental manipulation. You can also expedite other processes in the plant. These guys swear its impossible. They're wrong. the one guy tells people he works in a lab, and I find that humorous. considereing the circumstances. sarcasm took over and now they think I'm the owner of a thermonuclear computer.

 

[bmeat]

august 13h 27m 32s

sep 12h 42m 40s

oct 11h 53m 25s

nov 11h 04m 30s

in india!!

 

[Bakatare666]

ive been running 11/13 for a long time now. it is slightly more efficient (IME) than a direct 12/12 which never occurs in nature.

i have tried all the light schedules you can think of personally i prefer a rotating time schedule so i can take full advantage of more light without interrupting the normal PFR cyle.(rotating schedule meaning Sunday 10/14 to Saturday 14/10 slowly increasing the amount of light time over the week to restart back on sunday. at 10/14 again and so on.)

That's interesting how you rotate......
I also am doing 11/13, for the first try actually, but I tried starting my flower schedule out at 13/11, ran that for a month, and still didn't have any preflowers, but I like the 11/13.

 

[Diablos]

The plant is prepared for what your doing to it. Its programmed to work. It's possible to germinate cannabis seeds with no light.
I hear what your saying, thats not what was being discussed. I was told you cannot affect the growth cycles of plants by whoever. Its possible to retard or inhibit, traits and growth though environmental manipulation. You can also expedite other processes in the plant. These guys swear its impossible. They're wrong. the one guy tells people he works in a lab, and I find that humorous. considereing the circumstances. sarcasm took over and now they think I'm the owner of a thermonuclear computer.

ROFL, read this slowly, who can see what was copied and pasted, ill give you a hint, its goes "dumb dumb, intensly informative, dumb dumb dribble". could it be "Its possible to retard or inhibit, traits and growth though environmental manipulation. You can also expedite other processes in the plant.?"

Oh wow when i google that string, i can see where he copied it from.

And you tell me, that im in your 85% bracket.... Its is very obvious to me, that you typed the first part, googled the middle, and the typed the conclusion. You are the DEFINATION OF A POSER AND IM CONVINCED YOU ARE IN KAHOOTZ WITH BMEAT!!!

 

[bmeat]

That's interesting how you rotate......
I also am doing 11/13, for the first try actually, but I tried starting my flower schedule out at 13/11, ran that for a month, and still didn't have any preflowers, but I like the 11/13.

do this each month..if you have a timer.

august 13h 27m 32s

sep 12h 42m 40s

oct 11h 53m 25s

nov 11h 04m 30s

in india!!

12/12 prob would just make em bigger in the end though..or 13. which number makes em flower though? can 13 do it or only 12?

or the right light schedule could make the hormone product so much better and give you better buds..who knows..who cares i run 12/12

and 20 oe 24hr from 14 at peak? wtf you guys nuts?

 

[polyarcturus]

lots and lots of experiments haha. about that same time i developed that light schedule i was playing around with flowering under 24 hours lights and photoperiod plants.

no words of mouth just love to try new shit every grow. i just twist the variable one at a time.

its all good man smoke a J fuck the haters i dont even know whats going in the thread i just thought i would chime in with my experiences.

 

[polyarcturus]

dont feed the animals. rule number 1 at RIU. haha

 

[ElfoodStampo]

Thats a very theoretically correct hypothesis, GODAMNIT, Elfwoodstampo has locked my brain in "engaged mode", excuse the large vocab.

Im interested in your cycle, id just like to know a little more before i adopt your shedule, theoretically it makes sense to me.

What did you base this decision on, please dont say word of mouth...

Going for a walk to reset my mind, gotta bring myself back down

I have 6 600 watt led lights in my flower room. I change the level of lights and the timing schedual to mimic the sun. It works well in soil, I imagine it would work well for ebb and flow too.

 

[bmeat]

lots and lots of experiments haha. about that same time i developed that light schedule i was playing around with flowering under 24 hours lights and photoperiod plants.

no words of mouth just love to try new shit every grow. i just twist the variable one at a time.

its all good man smoke a J fuck the haters i dont even know whats going in the thread i just thought i would chime in with my experiences.

do them all i listed all the native times..just like your tv..you want it in its native resolution so it FITS and looks the best.

they name some things for a reason..other times they just make up stupid works like the english language fuck language lol

 

[Bakatare666]

do this each month..if you have a timer.

august 13h 27m 32s

sep 12h 42m 40s

oct 11h 53m 25s

nov 11h 04m 30s

in india!!

12/12 prob would just make em bigger in the end though..or 13. which number makes em flower though? can 13 do it or only 12?

or the right light schedule could make the hormone product so much better and give you better buds..who knows..who cares i run 12/12

and 20 oe 24hr from 14 at peak? wtf you guys nuts?

Fuck, what is this fascination you have with India and afghanistan?
I don't need help from you.
I haven't seen Jinxtme post in over a week, I'm wondering did she get pissed off and leave after you called her a cunt.

 

[bmeat]

LMAO who cares? im trying to grow some rockin bud so i feel the most numb i can haha

 

[Bakatare666]

dont feed the animals. rule number 1 at RIU. haha

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[polyarcturus]

That's interesting how you rotate......
I also am doing 11/13, for the first try actually, but I tried starting my flower schedule out at 13/11, ran that for a month, and still didn't have any preflowers, but I like the 11/13.

less of a stunt on the plants they tend to show sex a little bit faster, i dont think after a week it would hurt to bump up to 12/12, but if you work in a perpetual setup.... like me. 11/13 works out swell. ive also tried 13/11 and 14/11 and dont even think about a sativa dom under these schedules. yields will be increased but your talking about 12-16 week flowering times.(shorter PFR cyle, less flowering hormones thus more foliage growth in addition to bud growth.)

another one of my experiments, is if you run a MH and hps set up, MH is only on 8 hours to simulate midday, so you get 2 red periods at the beginning and end of your light on. helping to initiate and end the PFR cycle.

 

[ElfoodStampo]

ROFL, read this slowly, who can see what was copied and pasted, ill give you a hint, its goes "dumb dumb, intensly informative, dumb dumb dribble". could it be "Its possible to retard or inhibit, traits and growth though environmental manipulation. You can also expedite other processes in the plant.?"

Oh wow when i google that string, i can see where he copied it from.

And you tell me, that im in your 85% bracket.... Its is very obvious to me, that you typed the first part, googled the middle, and the typed the conclusion. You are the DEFINATION OF A POSER AND IM CONVINCED YOU ARE IN KAHOOTZ WITH BMEAT!!!

You should rename your "do not listen to' List to Mensa members I aspire to be like. Maybee I am in cahoots with BMEAT. I'm gonna find him and be his friend just to piss you off.
I enjoy this.

 

[ElfoodStampo]

less of a stunt on the plants they tend to show sex a little bit faster, i dont think after a week it would hurt to bump up to 12/12, but if you work in a perpetual setup.... like me. 11/13 works out swell. ive also tried 13/11 and 14/11 and dont even think about a sativa dom under these schedules. yields will be increased but your talking about 12-16 week flowering times.(shorter PFR cyle, less flowering hormones thus more foliage growth in addition to bud growth.)

another one of my experiments, is if you run a MH and hps set up, MH is only on 8 hours to simulate midday, so you get 2 red periods at the beginning and end of your light on. helping to initiate and end the PFR cycle.

Do you know anyone who's done similar setups with led's? I want to design a board that switches between wavelengths depending on time of day.
I think that's the best rout because you can pinpoint exactly what you want and independently trigger the led's you need. eg. 660, 730 nm

 

[shaun2000]

The Biggest Issue With All Your math is this. We All buy Seeds from seed banks Who "DONT" Use anything bar 12/12 for flowering (unless stated otherwise-They WIll answer if asked). So Those strains have been trained for the optimal Time Period matching 12/12.

Also There is a big difference between first light and Sun rise (about 30mins) And To be honest have u seen the light 5 mins Before First light... Its Fucking dark, Meaning all your wonderful math goes out the window as Im Pretty sure that the plant doesnt just go Wow its First light im getting tons of light, NO. It most likely isnt Receiving enough light to bother it just yet and it may not even register that its FIRSt light for another 10 mins-.

Try it with a lux meter- go out at first light and take a reading in your garden- lets see what you get apposed to sunrise.

 

[Bakatare666]

very true, real time adaptation..BUT you have to then factor in the variable you added..which is a valid one. but then theres more.

how long have plants been stressed under aftifical? (you tell me, idk) but i do know that theyve been growing in the wild MUCH longer, so that will come back to the speices, its a form of memory..for some reason..like how muscle is for us.

they will revert very quickly, espcially when you have you own cloned seed stock thats getting used to it generation after generation.

rebound from withdrawl is stressful, but it doesnt continue as a chronic condition

Your incessant babbling is making my head hurt.
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[bmeat]

sorry baka, im done for now as youve adapted to know

 

[Bakatare666]

sorry baka, im done for now as youve adapted to know

Cool.
I didn't know how much more drinking you were going to do.