Defoliation Test

[Bud Brewer]

I have six perfect clones they have been growing for the last week for the defoliation side by side 3 will be defoliated one heavily one medium one light and 3 controls that will be left alone the whole grow.

This was jan 23 I had one clone with two equal branches so I scared the stem and wrapped it in moist rockwool held with plastic wrap let it go ten days while it was rooting.

 

[cobra28widow]

Nice.... I will def stay tuned to see the results.. even though I already know wtf is gonna happen lol.... what strain?? and I usually take a few top fan leaves off to promote lower branching but usually only if its under fluoros... my 1000w doesnt need help with getting light to the lower branches... anyway good luck and +rep

 

[Bud Brewer]

It is bag seed my friend grew last summer and thru two in his garden they didn't have a chance to bud so I took them and defoliated many times in veg and now have two monsters with a week to finish using a 1000 watt MH the grow is my sig.

 

[Izoc666]

Bud Brewer, im glad that you re gonna do this defoliation test.

first of all what kind of bagseed or it will be better specific strain, please ? thanks

Peace

 

[Bud Brewer]

It is bagseed my friend grew last fall but he thru two clones outside in september it is a mix probably 50/50 it has sativa leaves but an indica type bud with a balanced high almost a hash smell full flavor and smooth.
I smoked a couple of zips my friend gave me and I have smoked a bud last week and yesterday it is getting better less than a week I think before it's ready smelling strong pics are in outdoor came indoor in signature below.

A week later still no growth but do have roots jan 30 the rockwool has been on the clone for a week.

 

[Bud Brewer]

This was the 3rd I cut the extra branch off that was wrapped In rockwool and transplanted the clones and buried them to equal heights they were close anyway now I growing them for a bit to see that they stay equal and grow fast the test should start next week.

 

[herbbilly]

I'm along been playing with extra branch myself. My try at defo didn't blow my mind was different.

 

[Bud Brewer]

I have had good extra branching by defoliating










My clones took a hit the overhead light fell on two clones burning the top on one and the stem on another I topped the one with stem damage and watered it because it dried right out from the light sitting on it but it might not make it.

This was the day before





Then two got fried I put in my security lights.

 

[silusbotwin]

Awesome! I'm currently doing 2 defoliation projects myself. After reading an article about it and checking some journals out, I decided I had to try it. Even tho I'm only using T5's in veg, I still get bushes so dense with foliage, even after stretching, I still get no canopy penetration with my 1000's in flower.

Not trying to steal you thread, just figured I would give you an idea of what my de-fols looks like:


LST'd and defoliated White Widow from Greenhouse Seed Co. This plant was a mainlined re-veg and shes about 6 months old from clone right now. Shes on the first day of flower in the photos below. I cut a bunch of clones from her the same day before sticking her into the flower room.



LST'd defoliated Pineapple Express from G13 Labs the day it went to flower. Vegged from clone for 2 months then I cut a bunch of clones from her



I just went and snapped more fresh shots for you so you could see what they look like.
This is the same White Widow that was pictured above on day 28 of flower. Golf ball sized nugs already and she takes 11 weeks to finish



And heres the Pineapple Express @ 28 days as well

 

[Bud Brewer]

Your plants are looking good lots of branching they should give you lots of bud.

 

[herbbilly]

Are you removing the leaves with light they're praying you dont? How long was veg on the monsters? Your pics are gone. I'm curious bud how was it looked hot in there.

 

[silusbotwin]

Are you removing the leaves with light they're praying you dont? How long was veg on the monsters? Your pics are gone. I'm curious bud how was it looked hot in there.

Thats the purpose of defoliation. It's removing huge light-receiving fan leaves that are covering stunted growth tips to allow the tips to grow and receive the light that the fan leaf was hogging. Ultimately those newly lit tips will grow large and strong and grow large fan leaves of their own.

 

[Bud Brewer]

I remove the leaves to force the side branches out to become the fan leaves.

They were vegged for two months from good sized clones from my friends outdoor garden in crap soil.

I put the pics back I filled in my album so I deleted my newer pictures so I could upload them all in order.

Heat isn't to much of a problem the problem is I should have made my shield 4 to 6 feet bigger because I can't drop my light down between them anymore so I'll have to do a second or third harvest.

 

[herbbilly]

Thats the purpose of defoliation. It's removing huge light-receiving fan leaves that are covering stunted growth tips to allow the tips to grow and receive the light that the fan leaf was hogging. Ultimately those newly lit tips will grow large and strong and grow large fan leaves of their own.

The purpose of defo is to burn the leaves off of plants?

 

[silusbotwin]

The purpose of defo is to burn the leaves off of plants?

The way you wrote your first sentence made it seem like you were trying to ask if Bud is doing something you thought to be foolish.

Are you removing the leaves with light they're praying you dont?

they're praying you dont? I must have misunderstood you

 

[Sincerely420]

Put in wok bro! Marvelous thread idea! I'll be around reading about defoliation for a while its seems as all the info is back and forth.Seems to me it's just the way that u do it..can be beneficial, can be detrimental

 

[Uncle Ben]

I have six perfect clones they have been growing for the last week for the defoliation side by side 3 will be defoliated one heavily one medium one light and 3 controls that will be left alone the whole grow.

Very scientific.

This was jan 23 I had one clone with two equal branches so I scared the stem.....

And just how scared was it? As in frightened to death? It's "scarified", not scared. The following is a valid experiment done by highly educated, seasoned professionals, not some RIU stoner with his mind already made up. Good luck anyway....

http://www.gpnmag.com/what-really-causes-stretch


About The Author

Paul V. Nelson is a professor of horticultural sciences, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, N.C.; Jin-Sheng Huang is currently on the faculty in the Department of Horticulture, Michigan State University, E. Lansing, Mich.; and Chen-Young Song is professor, Korean National Agricultural College, Kyunggi-Do, Republic of Korea. Nelson can be reached at (919) 515-1191.

 

[Alexander Supertramp]

Very scientific.



And just how scared was it? As in frightened to death? It's "scarified", not scared. The following is a valid experiment done by highly educated, seasoned professionals, not some RIU stoner with his mind already made up. Good luck anyway....

http://www.gpnmag.com/what-really-causes-stretch


About The Author

Paul V. Nelson is a professor of horticultural sciences, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, N.C.; Jin-Sheng Huang is currently on the faculty in the Department of Horticulture, Michigan State University, E. Lansing, Mich.; and Chen-Young Song is professor, Korean National Agricultural College, Kyunggi-Do, Republic of Korea. Nelson can be reached at (919) 515-1191.

Michigan State University, got my bachelors in ag science there in '77. Such a long time ago. Nice read, thanks UB...

 

[Bud Brewer]

Good article I've read before but who was talking about fertilizer and stretch.

I'm actually doing something to understand and show RIU members to see and do defoliation for themselves not believing some trolls that have never done it so can't begin to understand.

My plants speak for themselves.

 

[Sincerely420]

Very scientific.



And just how scared was it? As in frightened to death? It's "scarified", not scared. The following is a valid experiment done by highly educated, seasoned professionals, not some RIU stoner with his mind already made up. Good luck anyway....

http://www.gpnmag.com/what-really-causes-stretch


About The Author

Paul V. Nelson is a professor of horticultural sciences, North Carolina State University, Raleigh, N.C.; Jin-Sheng Huang is currently on the faculty in the Department of Horticulture, Michigan State University, E. Lansing, Mich.; and Chen-Young Song is professor, Korean National Agricultural College, Kyunggi-Do, Republic of Korea. Nelson can be reached at (919) 515-1191.

Thanks for the read.