couchlock420
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http:/ /boards.cannabis.com/plant-problems/172310-avid-spidermite-insecticide.html just lookin to get input on stuff i read
truth or all false?
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mrbungle79
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http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2013/02/12/is-there-pesticide-in-the-weed-youre-smoking/ interesting read and thought i'd share
Murfy
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TRUE!-
avid is nerve gas cooked up by nazis. no joke. that shit is bad news. i know a ton of folks that use avid, monthly. they are always the same guys charging the high dollar. i told 'em they don't care, they want the money. they send pics of their mite free plants to high times.
always seem to be the same guys using heavy metal growth regulators.
killing mites naturally is easy, you have to be a gardener though, which entails dedication, sacrifice, and attention to detail.
avid is nerve gas cooked up by nazis. no joke. that shit is bad news. i know a ton of folks that use avid, monthly. they are always the same guys charging the high dollar. i told 'em they don't care, they want the money. they send pics of their mite free plants to high times.
always seem to be the same guys using heavy metal growth regulators.
killing mites naturally is easy, you have to be a gardener though, which entails dedication, sacrifice, and attention to detail.
couchlock420
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no mite problem just studying
couchlock420
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what to know about mites and what can kill them
couchlock420
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like that teamin with microbes book
tricloud
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Prevention is the best cure for mites is what i've found. You won't find poisons in our buds though. Our idea of prevention doesn't have anything to do with a bug sprayer and poisons. It's everything to do with making sure you don't contaminate the grow by bringing in unwanted creatures.
Always wear clean clothes into the grow. Change your shoes before entering your grow. Shower before entering your grow if you have been out and about. Keep a quarantine area set up if you take in new clones.
I do spray new clones / cuttings for prevention just because but i use organic products. I'm also very careful about who i get my cuts from now days. I say cuts because it's easier to bring in pests through soil and other mediums. Start from cuts and you have eliminated at least some of the risk.
You won't believe how many growers have bugs and how dearly it can cost you if you aren't taking precautions. Figure out who knows how to deal with bugs by the most organic methods possible. Oly get clones from ma few select growers.
I can't say i've never used avid cause shit happens no matter how hard you try. I would NEVER spray avid on a flowering plant or a plant that would be going into flower soon. But I do use it on veg plants when necessary and administer it properly with full gear and high quality respirator. Think it was 3 years ago last time I had to spray it. Avid and floromite kill mites like nothing else i've used. I hate using those products but if you use them properly and never spray flowers it's responsible imo.
Avid and floromite are also great products for spraying down an area prior to growing in it. But spray twice just like you would do if you were treating plants.
The other thing to remember about these miticides is to never use the same spray more than twice in a row. Use twice then switch to another brand. Spraying 3 times creates mites that are resistant to poisons and miticides. It's irresponsible and doesn't do your plants any good either. This is how folks have created the "Super Mite". I've had 'em and can tell you they aren't the same ole mite we used to deal with. If you don't have some serious artillery you are gonna get smoked.. I keep a little Avid, Floromite and Forbid around just in case. Hate using them but when i do, I use them responsibly and don't poison my soil or flowers.....
Have to say I don't have a lot of trust in smoking or ingesting other growers buds for several reasons but this poison thing is a biggie.
tricloud
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The more you learn about mites the better chance you have of keeping them out of your garden. Also will understand how to deal with them once you get contaminated. Lots of information all over the internet.
couchlock420
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thanks 4 your input
tricloud
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NEEDMMASAP
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Why not use CO2 ?
[SIZE=+0]so raising the concentration to 10,000 ppm (1%) or higher for several hours will eliminate pests such as whiteflies and spider mites[/SIZE][SIZE=+0] in a greenhouse.[SUP][25][/SUP] Carbon dioxide is used in greenhouses as the main carbon source for Spirulina algae.[/SIZE]
[h=3]Agricultural and biological applications[/h] Plants require carbon dioxide to conduct photosynthesis. Greenhouses may (if of large size, must) enrich their atmospheres with additional CO[SUB]2[/SUB] to sustain and increase plant growth.[SUP][23][/SUP][SUP][24][/SUP] A photosynthesis-related drop (by a factor less than two) in carbon dioxide concentration in a greenhouse compartment would kill green plants, or, at least, completely stop their growth. At very high concentrations (100 times atmospheric concentration, or greater), carbon dioxide can be toxic to animal life, so raising the concentration to 10,000 ppm (1%) or higher for several hours will eliminate pests such as whiteflies and spider mites in a greenhouse.[SUP][25][/SUP] Carbon dioxide is used in greenhouses as the main carbon source for Spirulina algae.
In medicine, up to 5% carbon dioxide (130 times atmospheric concentration) is added to oxygen for stimulation of breathing after apnea and to stabilize the O[SUB]2[/SUB]/CO[SUB]2[/SUB] balance in blood.
It has been proposed that carbon dioxide from power generation be bubbled into ponds to grow algae that could then be converted into biodiesel fuel.
couchlock420
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thank u to murfy
NEEDMMASAP
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Murfy if the plants shut down their CO2 intake during the dark period , why not bring the CO2 level up to 10,000 PPM to kill the pests ? By the way , how many plants did you have in your 5X5 , I could not get the other pictures to come up , but it looked like a cool grow system .
couchlock420
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i here lots about predatory mites good things
NEEDMMASAP
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Its good that your checking this stuff out ,
I see that it states to use “ ONLY ON ORNAMENTAL PLANTS “
| abamectin | Avid | For commercial use only on ornamental plants. Primarily effective against twospotted spider mite; less effective against mites on conifers. Limited systemic movement. |
tricloud
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In order to raise predatory mites you have to feed them spider mites. Predatory mites aren't the best method for prevention because it's possible to inadvertently contaminate your grow with spider mites that came with your predator mites. Not likely but possible.
The other thing is that predatory mites don't reproduce in a 12/12 environment and they need to be constantly introduced to the flower room to be continuously effective. They are also expensive.
tricloud
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Their reproduction has more to do with environment than food source. Mites love it dry and warm and need a certain number hours of light to reproduce. 12 isn't enough......
A chicken needs 14 hrs of light minimal to lay eggs. Light effects animals and bugs kind of the same way it effects our plants....