BHO with Vacuum oil/wax tutorial

650baquet

Active Member
did you spray.. and heat to 91F - no vac

then vac? and now you have all these little bubbles? i think its fucked :p

my bubbles dont pop that fast and that little at such a low temp.. unless you bumped up the temp.. if so, it looks like its too high..
you asking me?? lol
 

Guzias1

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that long bit you posted.. sounds like a bunch of mad thoughts.. Im pretty sure my shit aint inferior..

people who smoke the oils and waxes seem to lean towards my own grown waxy shit, ha! and i cant even grow that well..

i know im getting the best of the best on what my ladies are producing though, and thats my goal, and waxy or oily, it all tastes and feels good, i dont see why soooo many people try to hate, fuck, i still love good everything weed, as long as it comes from someone who cares..
 

vacpurge

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those guys at icmag really know their shit. its a site filled guys with very high IQs, in and outside of the pot field. after what ive been reading, and experiencing, I think they may be right with the honeycomb theories.

what do you guys think?
 

vacpurge

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that long bit you posted.. sounds like a bunch of mad thoughts.. Im pretty sure my shit aint inferior..

people who smoke the oils and waxes seem to lean towards my own grown waxy shit, ha! and i cant even grow that well..

i know im getting the best of the best on what my ladies are producing though, and thats my goal, and waxy or oily, it all tastes and feels good, i dont see why soooo many people try to hate, fuck, i still love good everything weed, as long as it comes from someone who cares..
yeah the inferior part might not be right, its definitely good shit the honeycomb thats for sure.

their theories just feel kinda stronger for me because its what ive been saying from the start. then I read that thread... and those posts kinda confirmed what I always had wondered.

besides the inferior part, what else do you disagree with?

and I mean no offense in any way of this. just trying to get it figured out, and its a hell of a lot of information and good knowledge about to be passed around I think...
 

Guzias1

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here is my input

i achieve oil by removing the vapors (water/butane) i know for sure are getting sucked out of my chamber..

to get wax, all i do is continue the same exact process..

now to get something better than what i am creating, i would think you would need to winterize, to remove the other shit in there. skunkpharm goes over plenty on that..
i have not done that, do these guys at icmag mention any of that with there oil?

here is what i am saying,



at the moment, if i decided to get a very thin film , and let it cool down, i would have a transparent oil/shatter, "scan a barcode through that shit"

but, i am going for further stage, and all it take sis more time..
i wont touch this at all, and show you the progress. its been about 119-120F for a couple hours..
 

vacpurge

New Member
loll.. ok, someone said my video was long... that video only has about 2 minutes of worthy watching! loll, you dont even talk about anything.. so what is going on here?


did you spray.. and heat to 91F - no vac

then vac? and now you have all these little bubbles? i think its fucked :p

my bubbles dont pop that fast and that little at such a low temp.. unless you bumped up the temp.. if so, it looks like its too high..
haha, theres a reason it took 2 days to upload. 4gb.


whats going is the camera is IN the chamber. you should try it ;) its fun. the muffin almost left the paper so I had to close the valve! thank god for fail close because I slammed that fucker shut quick haha.

yeah, that is right after the spray. it got to around 80-90f when I cooked it off in the hot water. then scrapped it, onto paper, onto heat for a few seconds, then I started filming.

temp of oil was like 90-100. temp of chamber floor was 90f. temp of griddle was like 120-130.
 

vacpurge

New Member
here is my input

i achieve oil by removing the vapors (water/butane) i know for sure are getting sucked out of my chamber..

to get wax, all i do is continue the same exact process..

now to get something better than what i am creating, i would think you would need to winterize, to remove the other shit in there. skunkpharm goes over plenty on that..
i have not done that, do these guys at icmag mention any of that with there oil?

here is what i am saying,



at the moment, if i decided to get a very thin film , and let it cool down, i would have a transparent oil/shatter, "scan a barcode through that shit"

but, i am going for further stage, and all it take sis more time..
i wont touch this at all, and show you the progress. its been about 119-120F for a couple hours..
to get something better than what you are creating, do you think that bumping up the heat, and bubbling it a bit more. and possibly melting it from its honeycomb and turning it into a perma goo, and purging it harder would benefit it and make it better?

my oil also looked like that picture, the soon to be wax. its cloudy and looks grainy, like there is sugar or salt in it or something kinda. then it went away. I am not sure what happened.

that end picture is the first time ive been able to play with it at room temperature. it peeled 100% off the paper, no mess, at room temp, and even my finger heat didnt melt it that bad (unless you let it sit,,, then youre fucked), eventually it turned to shatter.. rock hard. I fucked up while scraping it and trying to break a chunk off, the blade was like a mini catapault and it shot a chunk of shatter somewhere in the room, probably on the carpet. oil is good though.
 

Guzias1

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haha, theres a reason it took 2 days to upload. 4gb.


whats going is the camera is IN the chamber. you should try it ;) its fun. the muffin almost left the paper so I had to close the valve! thank god for fail close because I slammed that fucker shut quick haha.

yeah, that is right after the spray. it got to around 80-90f when I cooked it off in the hot water. then scrapped it, onto paper, onto heat for a few seconds, then I started filming.

temp of oil was like 90-100. temp of chamber floor was 90f. temp of griddle was like 120-130.

goood, so what happened with it? is this the one you almost had wax?

dude, do you have windows movie maker on your computer?

my 45 min vid was only like 300mb.. you need to edit that shiet! 4gb upload is soooo much, haa, your internet provider gonna throttle you down..
 

Guzias1

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my oil also looked like that picture, the soon to be wax. its cloudy and looks grainy, like there is sugar or salt in it or something kinda. then it went away. I am not sure what happened..

i dont melt down my wax, because, its perma goo after.. i dont like that shit, whether it be healthier or not..

yes, i have melted it too far, and yea, its perma goo after wax. no good..


so it sounds like you could keep going on that shatter

its a good sign if it starts chipping, and flinging around at room temp..

i mentioned before on here. if you can take it out, let it cool down, and touch it with out the sticky shit, you are on the right track to wax..
 

650baquet

Active Member
the ultimate product is TOTALLY CLEAR sap or shatter like oil. this means you have gotten the impurities removed to the point where your sample is visibly clear, like you can scan a fucking barcode through it.

Now that said, wax/honeycomb CAN be good, if you start with such a product as which I just described (clear sap/shatter) But it is still the same product, just with air whipped into to make it waxy. Is that any better??? NO"
I've never exactly care which physical properties my concentrate has, i've said before, so i'm definitely going to be trying for shatter...i wish i had the income to use everclear to winterize and make some really pure stuff
 

Guzias1

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I've never exactly care which physical properties my concentrate has, i've said before, so i'm definitely going to be trying for shatter...i wish i had the income to use everclear to winterize and make some really pure stuff

you could save yourself the time and money, and just easily shoot for shatter..

shatter is a tad bit easier on the dabber, it dont get crumbly, just chips..

wax, honeycomb, you name it.. its to impress IMO :]

its pretty classy IMO as well, it really shows off the flower in an awesome way..
ive seen some creative wax molds made. And well, i likeeee,
 

Guzias1

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over nighter, woke up, temps are at 122F, lost a little vacuuum, so i put her back up



keeping it as is till i get home from work..
 

Guzias1

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soooooooooooooo, my temps ended at 130F, i wanted them to stay under 125F. but i guess the temps outside effecet my temps inside..
final weigh in..
 

650baquet

Active Member
Glad to have you back...hope work didn't kill ya whatever you do!

Nice, seems like a reasonable amount of butane purged. I'm glad to be correct with just giving it time to wax up. I'm STILL searching for a thread i read a while ago about how to make wax and i swear it was on here. But the guy always ran his honey overnight in the vac at low heat 110F up to 24hrs and it would look just like yours.

Quick question, is my wax turning out so yellow because only about 5-10% of my trichs are amber ish but all are very milky?
 

650baquet

Active Member
OH YA! and I also want to mention; I have been performing my runs at night when it's around 25F. Everything is that cold...the butane, bud, pyrex...my face...and my second run of LCOG was done using the mason jar "soak" method. The butane only slightly boils initially for a bit then completely stops cause it's so cold out, about 20min later there's no noticeable difference in the level of butane. I only soaked for so long to try and extract more...I read somewhere that below butane's b.p. it can take 1-2hrs for the oils to be fully extracted.

Also I'm curious how much slower the chlorophyll and other unwanteds are extracted...or dissolved into solution rather. I'm going to continue the mason jar method as curiosity always gets the best of me.
 

Guzias1

Well-Known Member
Glad to have you back...hope work didn't kill ya whatever you do!

Nice, seems like a reasonable amount of butane purged. I'm glad to be correct with just giving it time to wax up. I'm STILL searching for a thread i read a while ago about how to make wax and i swear it was on here. But the guy always ran his honey overnight in the vac at low heat 110F up to 24hrs and it would look just like yours.

Quick question, is my wax turning out so yellow because only about 5-10% of my trichs are amber ish but all are very milky?

i believe the color has a few factors involved.

each strain has a unique tint, im not sure on how to predict the color.. but... the spectrum seems to go from yellow to red.. and the younger the material, the lighter the color..


i have done runs with just buds, and got both the yellow, and the red outcomes.. this headbad and my santa cruz blues tend to produce redder material.. my purple kush is nice and yellow..

i went to a festival over the weekend, had an amazing time with friends, and a new lady friend i camped with (but now she has gone home :[ ...) .. now that im back to reality, and work, well, im really kind of bummed, i miss it all, i miss the lady.

"hope work didnt kill ya what ever you do!"

it really did today, i work in the wireless communications industry..
today i was working on a tower, solo, I was up there, and needed help aiming the antenna, so i called multiple coworkers (one of them was supposed to be ready to help) trying to get a hold of someone so i could get a reading.. Everyone was unavailable. I was forced to go up and down this tower 6+ times due to this.

towards the final up and downs, i was too fatigued, i couldnt finish the job, i was really frustrated. FINALLY, after i gave up, i get a call, my boss says there was an emergency blah blahh, and now he is ready to help me, FUCK THAT!,

Im pretty damn good at fixes, and not giving up.. but today, i told him i was done for the day...

the problem still exists at the tower, so tomorrow, im doing the same thing, but i better fucken have some help.. or im just not going up that thing..


this real world shit sucks..

on another note, i just signed up for tough mudder today right before that!

need to really get to training :]

im sorry for the darkness, hope you guys are doing some awesome runs!!!!..
 
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