hopeyougotadutch
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And just some pics while I had them out:
Skunk
Emerald Jack
Skunk
Emerald Jack
Got a dutch? GROWING AND GROWING AND.....
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hopeyougotadutch
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Any takers on what this problem might be? Need to get better at diagnosing problems such as these.
hopeyougotadutch
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At a week into flowering, if that helps.
simisimis
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difficult to say from your quality pics, but if the yellowing is going on only on bottom leaves I would not be worried, especially a week into flower. First set of 1blade leaves and 2nd set of 3blade leaves usually yellows and drops at 3-5week of vegging a plant, when you turn it into flowering and side branches start going up, a lot of fan leaves start yellowing at the main stem. 3-4 weeks into flowering usually there's only fan leaves on side branches left which then yellows only before harvest when you cut the nutes ~10 days before harvest.
EDIT: I did not take into consideration that you switched to flower this early. Cause I keep plants in veg for 5-6 weeks and only then switch to flower with 16-24 side branches. Timing will be different, but you will lose at least 1bladed and 3 bladed leaves..
EDIT: I did not take into consideration that you switched to flower this early. Cause I keep plants in veg for 5-6 weeks and only then switch to flower with 16-24 side branches. Timing will be different, but you will lose at least 1bladed and 3 bladed leaves..
hopeyougotadutch
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Appreciate the response sim. Well it's not only the yellowing, the stems are turning a reddish-purple type color in some areas (mainly on grow shoots/fan leaves). Growth may be stunted as well. I'm going to give them a few days to dry out, stop using water from the tap, and if problems persist after knowing I have the correct pH going in...possibly give another dose of all purpose. But, you could be right..could be over-thinking this one as well.
Sound good?
Sound good?
hopeyougotadutch
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Yea, I usually don't veg long. Especially this time around, this is going to be a birthday present to myself.
simisimis
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Well from pics very difficult to see things like reddish spots 
I'm not the experienced grower who's opinion you could trust. But here's my personal experience about water and ph. On my 0th grow I tried to keep soil somewhat wet and did not care a lot about ph. Well as expected plant went really bad, but because it was my 1st grow(I call it 0th cause I did everything whats possible to do wrong with it starting from buying auto plant and light, ph, temp, topping 3rd week into flowering, those things that you do and only later read.. 
). Anyway, now I wait until plant becomes almost completely dry, even leaves start to go down a bit, even if they become a bit wilted its just a matter of 1-2 hours for them to get back to normal and after two or so waterings you will know how long it takes for a plant to use all that water u give.
That first plant because of ph and overwatering did not have root ball almost at all, whereas second grow pot was loaded with roots.. Since I am pretty limited on budget I did not want to put my money on those ph +- and proper ph meters etc, what I did I just tested my tap water, according to color it was ~9, do not remember exactly and then teaspoon of apple cider vinegar per one liter made my ph around 6.5-6.8. But if you would get some better quality pics and post them on help section, I believe you would quicly get some very competent advises
Keep it up, you gonna make it
I'm not the experienced grower who's opinion you could trust. But here's my personal experience about water and ph. On my 0th grow I tried to keep soil somewhat wet and did not care a lot about ph. Well as expected plant went really bad, but because it was my 1st grow(I call it 0th cause I did everything whats possible to do wrong with it starting from buying auto plant and light, ph, temp, topping 3rd week into flowering, those things that you do and only later read.. ). Anyway, now I wait until plant becomes almost completely dry, even leaves start to go down a bit, even if they become a bit wilted its just a matter of 1-2 hours for them to get back to normal and after two or so waterings you will know how long it takes for a plant to use all that water u give. That first plant because of ph and overwatering did not have root ball almost at all, whereas second grow pot was loaded with roots.. Since I am pretty limited on budget I did not want to put my money on those ph +- and proper ph meters etc, what I did I just tested my tap water, according to color it was ~9, do not remember exactly and then teaspoon of apple cider vinegar per one liter made my ph around 6.5-6.8. But if you would get some better quality pics and post them on help section, I believe you would quicly get some very competent advises
Keep it up, you gonna make it
hopeyougotadutch
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Yea, I do about the same for my watering, 2 inches deep dry and a light pot, that's when I water. I might be able to get a shot of the discoloration of the stems but, it won't be any better than the pictures previously posted, all I have at the moment. I'll have to wait til' the lights come on tonight If I could find my roommates camera charger, I'd/I'll snag that and take my pictures but.., who knows where that is. Can't ask either, they find out I'm doing this again, they'll expect free weed. I'm not stingy, but they are when it comes to theirs...so no.
I'll take your advice and post the pictures in the plant problem section. Hope you stay tuned, regardless of what happens. I'll be swinging by your thread as well.
I'll take your advice and post the pictures in the plant problem section. Hope you stay tuned, regardless of what happens. I'll be swinging by your thread as well.
simisimis
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absolutely man, interested how you will turn out good luck.
and about the roommates like one guy mentioned in RIU - a friend with weed is a friend indeed, so I do understand you, I just do not get it how the hell you keep the odor out of your roommates noses cause for now only C99 gave me some non weed odor. All other plants gives such a strong odor...
good luck. and about the roommates like one guy mentioned in RIU - a friend with weed is a friend indeed, so I do understand you, I just do not get it how the hell you keep the odor out of your roommates noses
cause for now only C99 gave me some non weed odor. All other plants gives such a strong odor...
hopeyougotadutch
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Well, the last Skunk I ran had a pretty nice fruity smell, and from what I've read about the EJ, it has more of a fruity smell as well. It's easier to hide the fruity smells in my opinion, or at least draw the attention from them using one of those plug-in air fresheners. The one I got is mango scented and it's pretty strong. I'm sure if I was running more plants more drastic measures would have to be taken.
hopeyougotadutch
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Got a total of 246 watts (7 bulbs) in there right now. I actually have another question for you (or anyone else) about using the CFLs on splitters. If the actual lamp you are using has a max watt rating of 60w, and you have 3 40 watt bulbs and 1 26 watt bulb, is this lowering the effectiveness of the bulbs (lumens)?
simisimis
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It's not. It's raising the possibility of burning your house )) ok lets put it that way, when you use one lamp on one socket with some tiny wire, lamp is using 60W and everything seems to work fine. But once you add 3x40W, you are using 120W instead of 60W. 120W usually is not really a big deal, but 240W on one chinese non ceramic spliter can be a bit too much.
e.g.
1. I have 0.75mm cable wiring setup. I went to google and it said that this can support ~1400W of load/6A of current. http://www.diynot.com/pages/el/el003.php
2. I have chinese Y splitters some plastic crappy ones which should be ok with 150W, but I would be afraid to put more wattage per splitter.
If you would connect vacuum cleaner, it would not work less effectively, device would consume more watts a cable can handle and therefore cable can melt from the heat and lit up the building
So check out what you have and how many watts can those items support and don't overuse it and you will be fine
)) ok lets put it that way, when you use one lamp on one socket with some tiny wire, lamp is using 60W and everything seems to work fine. But once you add 3x40W, you are using 120W instead of 60W. 120W usually is not really a big deal, but 240W on one chinese non ceramic spliter can be a bit too much. e.g.
1. I have 0.75mm cable wiring setup. I went to google and it said that this can support ~1400W of load/6A of current. http://www.diynot.com/pages/el/el003.php
2. I have chinese Y splitters some plastic crappy ones which should be ok with 150W, but I would be afraid to put more wattage per splitter.
If you would connect vacuum cleaner, it would not work less effectively, device would consume more watts a cable can handle and therefore cable can melt from the heat and lit up the building
So check out what you have and how many watts can those items support and don't overuse it and you will be fine
Flaming Pie
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No offense, but that light set up looks not only ghetto, but really unsafe for your home and your plants.
Why not just use wire shelves and strap the lights onto it?
Why not just use wire shelves and strap the lights onto it?
hopeyougotadutch
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Sorry if I was unclear, but it's 246 total watts. I have 143 on one lamp using 3 Y-splitters and 103 on the other using 2 y splitters.It's not. It's raising the possibility of burning your house
e.g.
1. I have 0.75mm cable wiring setup. I went to google and it said that this can support ~1400W of load/6A of current. http://www.diynot.com/pages/el/el003.php
2. I have chinese Y splitters some plastic crappy ones which should be ok with 150W, but I would be afraid to put more wattage per splitter.
If you would connect vacuum cleaner, it would not work less effectively, device would consume more watts a cable can handle and therefore cable can melt from the heat and lit up the building
So check out what you have and how many watts can those items support and don't overuse it and you will be fine
hopeyougotadutch
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Yes, it is ghetto looking...looks retarded like that because I cut the boards too short on the ends. This same set up (-20 watts and the added boards) was ran last time for about 3 months and some change for the last grow without any problems. And about a month or so into it's use this time around.
What about it is unsafe vs. taking out the boards and "strapping" them to wire shelves instead?
hopeyougotadutch
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But, if I'm remembering right, last grow the bulbs were split between 3 separate lamp sockets, meaning it was only exceeding the max rating by 20 watts, this time it's much more. So yes, I see your point and it has been on my mind. And I am opened to constructive criticism so you don't have to worry about insulting me.
Could you be a bit more detailed about how to go about strapping the lights to a wire shelf? And, do you mean adding more sockets or..?
Could you be a bit more detailed about how to go about strapping the lights to a wire shelf? And, do you mean adding more sockets or..?
hopeyougotadutch
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Keep in mind I have NO more money to spend on this grow. I do have 2-3 more lamps I can use and I may be able to get my hands on a wire shelf.
Flaming Pie
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It is easy to add extension cables to the wire shelf. I run 3 extention cables that way my watts are divided instead of on one cord. Plus extention cables can handle more than 60 watts.
hopeyougotadutch
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Oh, were you thinking I had all of this running off of one extension cord? It's 3, only making use of 2 of them right now.
simisimis
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cable is not the issue. even if you would run all lamps on one cord it would be enough, at least you have very thin cable.. but from the picture I see that the cable is pretty decent and should be capable of supporting 1000W and more. The issue might be either in splitters or in your not very stable looking setup, if e.g. one of the planks would fall or somth. or if you put 2 splitters into one splitter and through one socket connect like 4 lamps. You should read about the splitters you have. How many watts are they capable to support.