Bagseed - Midgrade - 1st real attempt - March 22

[GrnMan]

I am going to go ahead and say that this is either normal or I have either a nitrogen, potassium, phosphorus, or zinc deficiency. It looks a lot like an N+P deficiency. I might be looking into using a fertilizer with higher NPK values for the next grow and maybe getting this problem under control.

I flushed earlier with a little higher dose then normal. She seems to be taking it well. I'm interested to see how it turns out tomorrow.

My NPK values are 2.5-2.0-5.0. I have become interested in these numbers here lately. I've noticed other ferts that have higher NPK values then this. Are they lower because this is an organic nute?

Thanks for stoppen by everyone...

 

[B. THC R+D]

LOVE THE SIG. HHM' !!!
G' YOUR DOING FINE, STOP IT!!!
WERE IN BLM NOW SO LIKE U ALREADY SAID, THE N DROP IS REALY GOING TO SHOW MORE. U REALY SHOULD START LISTENING TO YOURSELF MORE, YOUR USUALY ON THE MONEY MISTER.!!!
AND AGREED, LOOK AT THE BUD, LESS OF THE LEAF. COULD THESE BE SCARES FROM THE PAST BATTLE???
AND YOUR DIRT!!!! I SWEAR IF I DONT SEE SOME DIRT WORKS ON THE INSIDE OF THE POT WALL FROM THE NEXT WATER! IMA SWAT U WITH A ROLLED UP NEWSPAPER, AND THROW U ON THE PORCH WITH THE OTHIER STUDS. "BIBLE THUMPER" LOL!

AND THE TLB' IS GETTING ATTENTION! HEHEHEHEHE "HATERS BETTER RECOGNIZE" LOL

ONE FORUM ~ ONE PLANT ~ HELLA MEMBERS ~NO"HATERS" !!! AND CRIPLET'S TOO!

YES VIRGINA THERE IS A SANTA CLUASE!" DB.~TLB!

FOR THE HATERS ~

 

[JordanTheGreat]

everything appears to be in order, sum good lookin stuff...

 

[Picasso345]

I think a little N and P will be good. Here is an interesting article about the NPK:

"Although organic and natural fertilizers usually have a lower NPK number, they are soil amendments that work slowly over time to improve your soil and to help you plants grow strong. They avoid the fast growth and flowering provided by chemical fertilizers that can actually weaken plants. Therefore, big NPK numbers don’t necessarily mean a better fertilizer."

Explanation of NPK and fertilizers

 

[GrnMan]

Hey thanks THC..you're right im gonna chill. They look ok..

@ jordan

Hey thanks for stopping by man.

@Picasso

Yea, all that makes sense. Plant is actually looking a little better now.

 

[jordann9e]

i wouldn't give your flowering plants much more nitrogen than you are now. that promotes new green veg growth... IMO up the P-K

I suggest Advanced nutrients HammerHead... P-K booster. just the right amount you need

 

[Picasso345]

i wouldn't give your flowering plants much more nitrogen than you are now. that promotes new green veg growth... IMO up the P-K

I suggest Advanced nutrients HammerHead... P-K booster. just the right amount you need

Interesting. Just when we think we figure it out. On my FoxFarm chart they say to give the plants a taste of N with the Grow Big at weeks 3 & 4 of flowering. You think maybe that makes the plant look a little prettier so a person thinks the nutes are great, but they really just take a little away from the bud?

 

[OB Cron Kenobi]

wow- this is becoming a very interesting discussion on Nutes... I wish I had more input- but I am one grow away from beginning my examine of nutes... Nonetheless great information is about to reveal itself on this thread! I am staying tuned-

In my newb opinion- avoid the n and let the leaves fall of- its kinda like there going into fall anyway- and the flowers are finalizing and buds are fattining... but at this stage maybe the leaves shouldnt be falling off lol- and idk its all crazy and i am way high- but gonna check back on this one for sure!

Thanks for the interestingness

and your leaves are far from falling off- plants still look great- i got a little carried away there lol

 

[B. THC R+D]

Good Morn. Sir!~ And The Tlb" Got A Male! Went Medevilness On It!!! Like A Hater. Lol So Me Baby Bag Is Dead. "sniffle" No No Realy "sniffle" Lol Got Some Nice "sack" Pic's Coming!!! And The Horror! Realy Didnot Want It Anyway! Bitch Was Always Thirsty, Well He" Was Allways Thirsty Like A Runner!!! So I Know Your Pain "chop" Bastards'
DB.~TLB!

 

[Picasso345]

Good Morn. Sir!~ And The Tlb" Got A Male! Went Medevilness On It!!! Like A Hater. Lol So Me Baby Bag Is Dead. "sniffle" No No Realy "sniffle" Lol Got Some Nice "sack" Pic's Coming!!! And The Horror! Realy Didnot Want It Anyway! Bitch Was Always Thirsty, Well He" Was Allways Thirsty Like A Runner!!! So I Know Your Pain "chop" Bastards'
DB.~TLB!

Lol, you were going to dump that bitch anyways.

 

[email468]

I think nutrient needs are strain/genetics dependent. I mean all cannabis has certain requirements as does every green plant but the fine-tuning being discussed above I don't think can be applied to every strain. A non-accurate example would be: blueberry might need extra N during flowering whereas a Haze may show signs of nute burn if N levels are elevated.

I know in my limited experience - some strains can really take a lot of nutes whereas others require very little - i would think the individual nutrients would also have varying degrees of requirements.

What do y'all think?

 

[hothousemary]

I think nutrient needs are strain/genetics dependent. I mean all cannabis has certain requirements as does every green plant but the fine-tuning being discussed above I don't think can be applied to every strain. A non-accurate example would be: blueberry might need extra N during flowering whereas a Haze may show signs of nute burn if N levels are elevated.

I know in my limited experience - some strains can really take a lot of nutes whereas others require very little - i would think the individual nutrients would also have varying degrees of requirements.

What do y'all think?

makes since

 

[B. THC R+D]

I think nutrient needs are strain/genetics dependent. I mean all cannabis has certain requirements as does every green plant but the fine-tuning being discussed above I don't think can be applied to every strain. A non-accurate example would be: blueberry might need extra N during flowering whereas a Haze may show signs of nute burn if N levels are elevated.

I know in my limited experience - some strains can really take a lot of nutes whereas others require very little - i would think the individual nutrients would also have varying degrees of requirements.

What do y'all think?

OH! DEFF. A SECOND ON THAT.....!!! THATS WHY IM HAPPY TO HAVE THE NEW BLOOD IN THE OP... SO ME CAN TRY SHT. ON DIFF. STRAINS. BUT I DO AGREE ALL PLANTS ARE ALITTLE DIFF. THE WHITE WIDOW VV IS RUNNING IS EVEN A BIT DIFF. , BUT MINE IS OUT GROWN HER POT, AS IS A BIT OF A BAD EXAMPLE,,, BUT THE ONE I HAVE SITTING IN GRO, IS RUNNING WITH THE NO NAME, NO PROB. SO THEY MUST BE SIMM. IN THE NEEDS CATAGORY! YOUR THOUGHTS??? DB.~TLB!
AND A PUFF PUFF PASS, FOR THE KREW!

 

[email468]

OH! DEFF. A SECOND ON THAT.....!!! THATS WHY IM HAPPY TO HAVE THE NEW BLOOD IN THE OP... SO ME CAN TRY SHT. ON DIFF. STRAINS. BUT I DO AGREE ALL PLANTS ARE ALITTLE DIFF. THE WHITE WIDOW VV IS RUNNING IS EVEN A BIT DIFF. , BUT MINE IS OUT GROWN HER POT, AS IS A BIT OF A BAD EXAMPLE,,, BUT THE ONE I HAVE SITTING IN GRO, IS RUNNING WITH THE NO NAME, NO PROB. SO THEY MUST BE SIMM. IN THE NEEDS CATAGORY! YOUR THOUGHTS??? DB.~TLB!
AND A PUFF PUFF PASS, FOR THE KREW!

I started thinking on this as I was reading how some growers will deprive their plants of certain nutrients to get them to change colors. I then read in one of my books the idea i had so figured there might be some validity to it.

 

[B. THC R+D]

By Per Say... Torchering Me Beast, I Have Learned That. Like The Othier Just Plain Horta Books, Say... When Your In Her Guts!!! That Plants Can Be Minipulated, The Chem.s And Climats... I Think That Were Deff. On To Somthing With The Applj. Cause Of The Form Of Sugers Recieved, Way Looking Forward To The Pinneapple!!! That Chart U Sent In The Journ. The List.??? Was, Or Has Got Me Brain Working Over Time.!!! We Dont Know Till Its Tried... A Perfect Mistake!!! I Hope Is Coming, And Feel Its Poss. With The Behind The Scenes Pm's I Get. And Were At The Cusp... Just My Thoughts Db.~tlb!

 

[BigBudBalls]

I started thinking on this as I was reading how some growers will deprive their plants of certain nutrients to get them to change colors. I then read in one of my books the idea i had so figured there might be some validity to it.

If its ok to chime in.......

I'm doing a soil grow. Some in MG, others in FF (my jurry is still out) but for vegging, I don't add nutes until they look like they need them. The soil and its nutes are fresh, plant is young, let it chill and tell ya what it wants.

This concept is great for a beginner that has the room to kill off a few plants. Deprive them and do the mad scientist test. (where's FDD and Fletch? )

Are there sources for individual nute? like if I only want P or maybe just K, etc?

 

[email468]

Soil adds a layer of complexity to the nutrient equation as it often contains nutrients or things that can affect nutrient uptake.

You should be able to find just Nitrogen (or mostly anyway) or just Potassium, etc..
The other tricky thing is unless the nutrient actually produces some sort of electrical conductivity - it won't be measured by a PPM/EC meter! Using something like urine for Nitrogen comes to mind.

It seems like being able to read a plants needs is the primary key in identifying what nutrients, how much and when. And the horticulture books and feeding schedules are just guidelines that require customization per strain (or maybe strain groupings).

 

[B. THC R+D]

If its ok to chime in.......

I'm doing a soil grow. Some in MG, others in FF (my jurry is still out) but for vegging, I don't add nutes until they look like they need them. The soil and its nutes are fresh, plant is young, let it chill and tell ya what it wants.

This concept is great for a beginner that has the room to kill off a few plants. Deprive them and do the mad scientist test. (where's FDD and Fletch? )

Are there sources for individual nute? like if I only want P or maybe just K, etc?

I AGREE WITH WHAT YOUR SAYING, BEING A SHUT IN, ALONE, I HAD TO MAD!!! IT ON MY OWN!!! NOW I HAVE A PLACE TO SHARE THAT,, AND ITS NOT ALLWAYS FROM THE GRO SHOP, HERE!!! THE FRIDGE IM FINDING TO BE ONE HELL OF A RESOURCE THAT I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF.
IF U HAVE NOT ALREADY TAKE SOME TIME TO HIT THE EXP IN THE SIG. BEEN FEEDING A PLANT APPLEJUICE... AND THE RESULTS ARE CRAZY...!!!
DB.~TLB!

 

[GrnMan]

DB, you got a male? CUT THE BALLS QUICK!

@ BBB

You are welcome to talk about anything you want on my thread bro, let's just try and keep the topic about MJ. Chime in whenever you want man, yer part of the TLB!

I don't have much time to chime in on the nute debate, but I'm going to try and get some pics up.

 

[GrnMan]

This bitch is really starting to get top heavy. I meant to pick something up to stabilize her the last time I was at HD. Looks like a may be making a trip today or tomorrow. If you look at the last pic, you can see how she is sorta leanen to the left. She must be gone of that drank! Sippen 4's without me whore?

I've noticed some of the pistils are starting to turn a brownish color down towards the bottom. The upper buds aren't nearly as brown.


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