Sannies 'Sugar Punch' grow.

[Bigby]

Some new pictures. Firstly Big Bushy. Day 31 of 12/12. Still a fair bit of yellowing to the leaves, although the buds are a nice and green. I upped the feed to 30ml of 'Grow' and 30ml of 'Bloom' plus 5ml of 'Alg-A-Mix' in 10 litres of water to try and help her cope with her needs. I feel some of the yellowing is due to her being a little root bound though, and it's too late to do anything about that. Still a healthy girl though, no necrosis or signs of ill health. I have my suspicions that she has some C'99 heritage to her pheno, there's a definite chemical pineapple smell to her now which sounds very similar to what I hear people describe the pineapple pheno of C'99. She also looks faster maturing than the sativa dominant from the previous flower run (Tall Hazey Lady), leading me to hypothesise that maybe the previous one was expressing SSH sativa and this one the C'99 quick flower sativa. Anyway, the pictures;




The final picture shows the branch that was brought round from it's position under the canopy, where it was tied down and unable to stretch to the light. Lost the top of it, but when I began the rescue attempt with the stake it looked touch and go whether it would recover. Well it has, should produce some nice bud too.

 

[Bigby]

And here is the Kolossus. Day 23 of 12/12. Stretching seems to have stopped. Very nice even canopy to her with multiple tops. I have used the pipe cleaner and weight trick to bend the tops, enabling bigger colas and more light to the lower sites. She looks very solid and built to yield, really excited to see how she does.



Quite striking how green she compared to the Big Bushy Sugar Punch.

 

[bassman999]

Looking great!
What size containers are you using?

 

[Bigby]

Thanks dude. They're in 20 litre pots. I think a 14 week veg and potentially 12 week flower plant needs bigger than that tbh, but she seems ok with the high dose nutes.

 

[bassman999]

Thanks dude. They're in 20 litre pots. I think a 14 week veg and potentially 12 week flower plant needs bigger than that tbh, but she seems ok with the high dose nutes.

20 liters is like 5.5 gall I think??

Is that pl;astic pots or cloth?
If plastic, then I agree that closer to 10 gall is better.

 

[Bigby]

Yeah, it's plastic. Not sure on gallons without googling it - we don't use gallons over her any more very much, and when we do ours are different to US gallons just to be extra confusing lol. The only real alternative is the cloth containers. I'm really not sure about them though, as I move my plants a fair bit. To be honest though the 12 and 14 week veg girls were unplanned and won't be something I will repeat. I like the idea of 4 plants trained and vegged for between 6/8 weeks, then flowered. Get them similar size to the Kolossus from in this grow.

 

[bassman999]

Yeah, it's plastic. Not sure on gallons without googling it - we don't use gallons over her any more very much, and when we do ours are different to US gallons just to be extra confusing lol. The only real alternative is the cloth containers. I'm really not sure about them though, as I move my plants a fair bit. To be honest though the 12 and 14 week veg girls were unplanned and won't be something I will repeat. I like the idea of 4 plants trained and vegged for between 6/8 weeks, then flowered. Get them similar size to the Kolossus from in this grow.

I guess it depends on strain then.
I have most vegged 6-8 and they are not bound at harvest, but like my Blueberry was 8-9 week veg and 9 week flower and so was this OG type one, and they were in 5 gal and man were they bound, and I know that I lost potential with it.
My Atomic lights and Cindy were fins in those though.

 

[Bigby]

Right, some pictures of Little Bushy (Q-Bert) taken today before her feed. This is day 43 of 12/12. She's getting a good old dose of nutes now; 30ml of BioBizz 'Grow', 30ml of BioBizz 'Bloom' and 10ml of BioBizz 'Alg-A-Mix' in 10 litres of water. Seems to be what she wants though as she is staying a lovely healthy green colour. The flowers seem to have formed their main shapes, with the foxtails starting to form (you can see she's Stinky Girl's sister now). This means there will be 3 weeks of swelling before they enter the ripening phase and are ready - I think this window will last from 9.5 to about 11.5 weeks, and I will be taking her some time in week 10. Hope you enjoy the pics!

 

[Bigby]

I guess it depends on strain then.
I have most vegged 6-8 and they are not bound at harvest, but like my Blueberry was 8-9 week veg and 9 week flower and so was this OG type one, and they were in 5 gal and man were they bound, and I know that I lost potential with it.
My Atomic lights and Cindy were fins in those though.

That's interesting. Gets me wondering whether the Shackzilla I'm about to crack might be happier in bigger pots, even with the 6/8 week veg time, considering the similar genetics.

Have you used the cloth pots? I can get these ones - sounds like I should at least seriously consider them before deciding.

http://www.growell.co.uk/rhizo-pots.html

 

[bassman999]

That's interesting. Gets me wondering whether the Shackzilla I'm about to crack might be happier in bigger pots, even with the 6/8 week veg time, considering the similar genetics.

Have you used the cloth pots? I can get these ones - sounds like I should at least seriously consider them before deciding.

http://www.growell.co.uk/rhizo-pots.html

There are several differences with those pots.

1st is how the roots grow.
Plastic pots roots hit sides and spin around till they hit the bottom and then get piled up.

In cloth they will stretch till they hit the sides and might poke out a lil, but then stop.
This is said to force more new roots to come from the stock.
So instead of less really long roots you have way more root-zone with shorter healthier ones.
Supposedly you can grow a bigger plant with the same size cloth pot.
I have never had a spinning root mass at the bottom of a cloth pot
You have to water slower so that water doesnt seep out the sides of the pot.

I will say till the roots fill out the cloth ones are more difficult to move, but after they have rooted in well they get kinda solid.

 

[bassman999]

That's interesting. Gets me wondering whether the Shackzilla I'm about to crack might be happier in bigger pots, even with the 6/8 week veg time, considering the similar genetics.

Have you used the cloth pots? I can get these ones - sounds like I should at least seriously consider them before deciding.

http://www.growell.co.uk/rhizo-pots.html

There are several differences with those pots.

1st is how the roots grow.
Plastic pots roots hit sides and spin around till they hit the bottom and then get piled up.

In cloth they will stretch till they hit the sides and might poke out a lil, but then stop.
This is said to force more new roots to come from the stock.
So instead of less really long roots you have way more root-zone with shorter healthier ones.
Supposedly you can grow a bigger plant with the same size cloth pot.
I have never had a spinning root mass at the bottom of a cloth pot
You have to water slower so that water doesnt seep out the sides of the pot.

I will say till the roots fill out the cloth ones are more difficult to move, but after they have rooted in well they get kinda solid.

Cloth ones cost more initially, but they can be washed and re-used.
I do it at the public machines and not at home so as not to get soil and ferts in my home machine.

 

[Bigby]

Thanks for the thorough response dude. Appreciated. That last bit about using the public washing machines made me giggle, don't think I'd better do that here. lol

 

[bassman999]

Thanks for the thorough response dude. Appreciated. That last bit about using the public washing machines made me giggle, don't think I'd better do that here. lol

n/p bro

I suppose the public washing would be a problem

 

[Bigby]

I wasn't going to do any pics tonight. But then when I was feeding Little Bushy (Q-Bert) she was just stinking so fine I couldn't resist snapping a few naughty shots of her fragrant flowers. This is day 46 of 12/12. Almost identical smell to Stinky Girl from earlier within this thread, if anything this one smells even stronger. The cheesy skunkiness is pervasive and overpowering, its sweeter than cheese, but it has that same heavy skunk musk. About another 20 days for her I reckon.

 

[Bigby]

Put some new seeds in to crack a few days ago. 2 Sannies Jack and 2 Shackzilla. All 4 cracked. One of the Jack looked a little rough, having almost completely shedded the shell casing, but leaving behind what looked like some of the seed. I planted it anyway. The others were put back in the tissue for 24 hours - after which one of the Shackzilla's was vigorous with furry tap root, the others also had developed. They were all planted too. This morning the first Jack, the rough one, had popped up above the soil. With continued good fortune I think the others should pop up too. I wanted to share that here. I will be starting a new thread for that grow once they're all up and growing.

 

[bassman999]

I hope they all come up for ya.

 

[Bigby]

Thanks man. Just checked and the Jack I was unsure of looks fine. Small cotyledons and initial growth, but looks healthy and green. One of the Shackzilla is up too, and looks ready to go crazy. Should see something by this time tomorrow from the others if I'm going to. I did put one other Jack in to germinate just in case things went wrong with one of them. If I end up with five plants I will flower five - if that happens I will put 2 of the Jack's in 11 litre square containers rather than the 20 litre round ones. Not gonna bother with the cloth containers as I'm only planning on vegging for 6 weeks max. Next time I grow some beasts I will use them though, in combination with a big base tray, rather than individual trays for each pot. That's for the future though (hopefully).

 

[brodietheconeking]

,wow mate,looks like a heavy hitter!!

 

[bassman999]

Thanks man. Just checked and the Jack I was unsure of looks fine. Small cotyledons and initial growth, but looks healthy and green. One of the Shackzilla is up too, and looks ready to go crazy. Should see something by this time tomorrow from the others if I'm going to. I did put one other Jack in to germinate just in case things went wrong with one of them. If I end up with five plants I will flower five - if that happens I will put 2 of the Jack's in 11 litre square containers rather than the 20 litre round ones. Not gonna bother with the cloth containers as I'm only planning on vegging for 6 weeks max. Next time I grow some beasts I will use them though, in combination with a big base tray, rather than individual trays for each pot. That's for the future though (hopefully).

When I use cloth pots I use a flood tray for runoff slightly slanted.

 

[bassman999]

On another thread a guy mentioned how the cloth pots soil dries out way faster with soil-less mixes.
This is true, and thought it might be important since you are thinking of using them in the future.