TAX (not wealth) Dristributon

[Dr Kynes]

You are greedy

no, i know whats mine. if you want to live the marxist dream and share your vast stores of NOTHING with the world, go to butte county california, and join one of the communes that still thrive up there.

youll have to bust your ass, and youll see no benefit from your hard work, while the slacking sluggard assholes who think making 3 tie dyed t-shirts a week is "pulling their weight" can keep slacking off.

but dont get mad at them, your just being greedy.

 

[Dr Kynes]

You were raised in a capitalist system. You were bred into greed. You think its in your favor to horde and consume at will. Why do you think society is the way it is? We live in small groups of people and hardly venture outside that group because you have to remember your own self interest.

If the only thing you value in life is wealth I pity you.

ORLY? youre gonna tell me how i was raised and what i think and value? how i was bred? that i consume?

save your pity for yourself, youll need it when you discover nobody is gonna give you shit.

yeah youre a moron.

also you HOARD wealth, HORDES are for barbarians you twit.

youre just another half-assed wanna-be communist. you simply assume that your natural talent and brilliance will shine through the rest of the lumpen proletariat and youll be elevated to apparatchik status.

Protip: youre one of the fools who gets put up against the wall as soon as the revolution is successful. stalin doesnt need you getting underfoot, and fidel has plans of his own

 

[Mr Neutron]

Do you consider equal and free the same thing?

No, of course not.

 

[Mr Neutron]

I lose 25 percent of my pay check every week

At least you are aware of the amount. Most people couldn't tell you what percentage they pay or the total amount they pay in income taxes but they sure do remember how much their refund was. I don't get it. You let them steal $100 but since they send you $10 back, you're happy.

 

[Mr Neutron]

You were raised in a capitalist system. You were bred into greed. You think its in your favor to horde and consume at will. Why do you think society is the way it is? We live in small groups of people and hardly venture outside that group because you have to remember your own self interest.

If the only thing you value in life is wealth I pity you.

Do you not buy and horde silver?

 

[Mr Neutron]

but please proceed on the demonization of seniors

Hmmm, who was that who thinks it OK for the IRS to tax seniors, whose income is at the poverty level?

 

[Dr Kynes]

Hmmm, who was that who thinks it OK for the IRS to tax seniors, whose income is at the poverty level?

no, you are mistaken, bucky wanted to tax all seniors until the HIT the poverty level.

those old people have been "hordeing" <sic> their wealth for too many years and it's time they be punished for not blowing all their money on "job creating" endeavors like i-Phones and ear guage plugs.

you old fucks should be ashamed of yourselves. if you assholes had spent more time in the 30's and 40's buying gold plated donkey chains and velour tracksuits maybe hitler wouldnt have invaded poland! see what happens when you "horde" <sic> wealth?

now get out there and make your Golden Years truely golden! spend spend spend! stop "hordeing" <sic> all the wealth and blow it all on new "tribal" tattoos and facial piercings like a sensible person!

 

[gagekko]

no, you are mistaken, bucky wanted to tax all seniors until the HIT the poverty level.

those old people have been "hordeing" <sic> their wealth for too many years and it's time they be punished for not blowing all their money on "job creating" endeavors like i-Phones and ear guage plugs.

you old fucks should be ashamed of yourselves. if you assholes had spent more time in the 30's and 40's buying gold plated donkey chains and velour tracksuits maybe hitler wouldnt have invaded poland! see what happens when you "horde" <sic> wealth?

now get out there and make your Golden Years truely golden! spend spend spend! stop "hordeing" <sic> all the wealth and blow it all on new "tribal" tattoos and facial piercings like a sensible person!

 

[Balzac89]

ORLY? youre gonna tell me how i was raised and what i think and value? how i was bred? that i consume?

save your pity for yourself, youll need it when you discover nobody is gonna give you shit.

yeah youre a moron.

also you HOARD wealth, HORDES are for barbarians you twit.

youre just another half-assed wanna-be communist. you simply assume that your natural talent and brilliance will shine through the rest of the lumpen proletariat and youll be elevated to apparatchik status.

Protip: youre one of the fools who gets put up against the wall as soon as the revolution is successful. stalin doesnt need you getting underfoot, and fidel has plans of his own

I'm just taking the stance of what is better for society. I don't support sloth people. I think if people are given the opportunity to strive they will work hard. But society has made life and working so meaningless.

I support hard work when its partnered with passion. Working hard just to buy shit is worthless. People waste their lives thinking that wealth is the ultimate goal. Happiness is my ultimate goal and I realize i can't be happy unless the people around me are.

I look around and I see fat sad tired people everywhere.

Ahhh the American dream.

People like you who peg themselves on a higher level than the average working person. I am part of the working poor and so are 95 percent of the people on this forum.

I have never gotten social assistance of any kind. Jump off your high horse and look at things from a different point of view instead of hurling useless insults.

I'm sorry spelled a word wrong. I'm not infallible like you.

 

[Balzac89]

No, of course not.

How can we be free if we are not all equal?

 

[ginwilly]

How can we be free if we are not all equal?

Do we not have the freedom to be unequal? Must you and I achieve equal levels of success? What if I want to fix cars and you want to be a neurosurgeon? How would we deal with this without infringing on freedoms?

If you mean laws based on MAN being equal across the board for all races, religion, sex, and ages then I agree. We can never be truly free or equal in that sense while having laws that are different for different groups.

If you mean equal outcomes are needed to be free then you better hurry, your bus is filling up.

 

[Balzac89]

If people aren't equal someone will always be dictating what you do.

 

[Doer]

So, if I remember, it is stated that we are created equal,endowed with certain rights. Life, Liberty, Pursuit of Happiness, and the blanket; the other Rights on the Republic.

Equally wrapped in the arms of blind justice? Hardly. Justice is expensive.

We are this only and get equal actual guaranteed Rights. We are just Equally, ugly babies wrapped in the American Rights from...a happened at, gush place. Our birth. No more than that is guaranteed. I see so many concepts are being warped beyond recognition.



Freedom
Equality
Democracy
Citizenship

These are somewhat unique and defined provisions under US Law, and are quite different, (and perhaps not even at all advanced), in all history. We will see.

People are neither completely equal or completely free...Just much more of both, in the USA.

There. Feel better?

 

[Doer]

If people aren't equal someone will always be dictating what you do.

Little Virginia?
Yes ma'm
Please use "dictates" in a sentence.
Yes ma'm (big sigh)

When Harry pulled down his pants, he said he was going to show me how his di....mmhhcuhjkfffaf. Ouch.
................Yes ma'm

 

[UncleBuck]

yes, and i loose about 30% all told between federal state & local taxes, social security taxes, medicare taxes, etc etc etc... but the feds are only getting you in ACTUAL IRS INCOME TAX for 10-15%, but if yopu wanmt fairness youll have to pay 35% in federal tax just like those evil rich asshole republicans like madonna and demi lovato, or get thrown in jail like that evil rich asshole republican wesley snipes...

you half ass leftists always bitch about "fairness" and "income equality' but you are incapable of thinking about how actual fairness would work, so instyead yo envision a new definition of "fairness and equality" which results in every crab who has almost climbed out of the bucket being pulled right back down to where you are.

great job on the thinking numbnuts. what if the "fairness" you crave so badly is placed at the "seniors who have to eat cat food level" and your maximum allowed take home pay becomes $750/month from which you must pay the rent/mortgage, buy grub, keep clothing on your back, pay for the new obama-mandated health insurance premiums and get to and from your job, since you dont qualify for the awesome retirement package that gam gam gets. youll take home $750 /month, and never do any better than that, but you CAN do worse, so you better keep that job, because Skid Row awaits, and youll be drinking sterno next to a flaming garbage can if you slack off.

does fairness and equality still sound like a sweet deal to you dippledink?

sounds like your bircher wet dream to me.

 

[Balzac89]

yes, and i loose about 30% all told between federal state & local taxes, social security taxes, medicare taxes, etc etc etc... but the feds are only getting you in ACTUAL IRS INCOME TAX for 10-15%, but if yopu wanmt fairness youll have to pay 35% in federal tax just like those evil rich asshole republicans like madonna and demi lovato, or get thrown in jail like that evil rich asshole republican wesley snipes...

you half ass leftists always bitch about "fairness" and "income equality' but you are incapable of thinking about how actual fairness would work, so instyead yo envision a new definition of "fairness and equality" which results in every crab who has almost climbed out of the bucket being pulled right back down to where you are.

great job on the thinking numbnuts. what if the "fairness" you crave so badly is placed at the "seniors who have to eat cat food level" and your maximum allowed take home pay becomes $750/month from which you must pay the rent/mortgage, buy grub, keep clothing on your back, pay for the new obama-mandated health insurance premiums and get to and from your job, since you dont qualify for the awesome retirement package that gam gam gets. youll take home $750 /month, and never do any better than that, but you CAN do worse, so you better keep that job, because Skid Row awaits, and youll be drinking sterno next to a flaming garbage can if you slack off.

does fairness and equality still sound like a sweet deal to you dippledink?

I missed this one.

I make twice what minimum wage is, I'm a college graduate with no debt at all. It would only be better if I got offered a salary position. I work in Fabrication.

Sounds like paradise to me.

 

[rooky1985]

again, categorically false.

the gas station attendant *does not ask me how much i make before pumping my gas.

my landlord does not ask me how much i make when i pay my property tax.

no one asks me how much i make when i purchase a six pack of beer in a state with sales taxes.

my phone service does not ask me how much i make when they tack on all the little extras at the end of my bill, nor does my ISP.

one half does not pay for the other half, it's a completely false talking point that is only consumed by koolaid drinkers.

Really you rent and pay property tax? Also, when you pay property tax they don't ask you what you make but you are taxed on the value of the property.

 

[Balzac89]

Really you rent and pay property tax? Also, when you pay property tax they don't ask you what you make but you are taxed on the value of the property.

The landlord pays the tax with your rent. You don't directly pay if you don't own the land...

 

[Balzac89]

Property tax is fuct up. I don't get how you can be taxed on an asset that isn't making you a profit. Unless you rent the property you are getting the shit end.

 

[Balzac89]

Rent and Own*