First Closet CFL Grow

[Alto]

I had 2 males ( 2 for 7 isn't too bad)
and I just ripped them right out pots and all.
I did not want to risk root rot spreading to the girls should they die.
I did not use net pots tho, the system I have came with pots
that are solid on the sides with the corners and bottom open.
I'm 3 weeks into flower and I don't have any roots that have grown together.
I remove all the plants each time I change and clean the reservoir
so maybe thats whats keeping them separated?
Using a larger pot with hydroton (or whatever) you can keep the bulk
of the root mass inside the pot.
As long as the bottom of the pot (like 3 inches) is sitting in the actual water,
they can get what they need without growing too far outside the pots and getting all tangled up.
Or thats what my experience has been.
You can see the pots in the attachment

 

[cheetah2007]

it isn't to bad at all man

 

[Alto]

This is the next one I will buy and use the wick system I have for a mother or two.
Hydrofarm - American Hydroponics AH91068 Econo 1-tray system w/reservoir, 3' x 3' x 19" - White
I will eventually have it set up with both a veg and flower area like the beginning of my journal shows.
I just have to fit out the 24/0 area with panda or something to make it light proof as they are in the same room.
Still working out all that (proper ventilation and such) but someday.
but the linked system would fit perfectly in your space I think and is one of the easiest systems to maintain. A real commercial system.

That or this type which is drip and expandable
http://www.hydrofarm.com/pb_detail.php?itemid=605
and can be expanded and automated to this which rocks
http://www.hydrofarm.com/pb_detail.php?itemid=621

 

[kochab]

yeah alto those are pretty good systems. I think if you didnt move the roots around much you would still be okay because most of the roots stay contained in those systems.
The dwc(recirculating) system I used made root growth fuckin explode in a manner that the roots hung out of the bottom to the net pots and into the water to the bottom of the res before I ever even flowered them.

 

[Alto]

yeah alto those are pretty good systems. I think if you didnt move the roots around much you would still be okay because most of the roots stay contained in those systems.
The dwc(recirculating) system I used made root growth fuckin explode in a manner that the roots hung out of the bottom to the net pots and into the water to the bottom of the res before I ever even flowered them.

yeah thats what happens with my aerogarden lol
Reservoir is full of roots
That single waterfarm complete one would be great to keep a mom in eh?

 

[kochab]

yeah thats what happens with my aerogarden lol
Reservoir is full of roots
That single waterfarm complete one would be great to keep a mom in eh?

if your talking about the flood and drain table then I would say no.
If you mean a single plant dwc system then i would say yeah, I kept a mom in a 5gallon bucket by herself that I made into a dwc system.
Her roots eventually filled the bucket totally.

 

[toolage]

Good morning everyone,

There is way too much to multiquote about this convo lol. Thanks alot for the pic of that air pump.

Other thing I was thinking about, is how do you all drain your system right now to get all the old water out and put new water in? I unfortunantly didn't think of a good way to do that for this grow. I used to have to take all the plants out and just take the res in my bathroom and change it in there. But now that stretch is tied down, I have to redirect my water pump into another res, pump all the water out, clean it out with a clean towel and refill it up while it's in the grow op.

I will be doing 4 plants per res. 4 Feminised Northern Lights in 1 res. 4 Lowryders in the other resevoir. I would like do this DWC setup, I do have a water pump to make it a recirculating one as well.

From what I'm understand, for the first 2 weeks i'll fill up the res to it's full potential of about 20 gallons yes? Basically the bottom of the next pots will barely sit on the top of the water until the roots are long enough to sit in the water, then from there just not fill up the resevoir as much? I think that's what I got from everything, but I have just woken up so let me know if I missed something.

 

[BCMango]

Good morning everyone,

There is way too much to multiquote about this convo lol. Thanks alot for the pic of that air pump.

Other thing I was thinking about, is how do you all drain your system right now to get all the old water out and put new water in? I unfortunantly didn't think of a good way to do that for this grow. I used to have to take all the plants out and just take the res in my bathroom and change it in there. But now that stretch is tied down, I have to redirect my water pump into another res, pump all the water out, clean it out with a clean towel and refill it up while it's in the grow op.

I will be doing 4 plants per res. 4 Feminised Northern Lights in 1 res. 4 Lowryders in the other resevoir. I would like to this DWC setup, I do have a water pump to make it a recirculating one as well.

From what I'm understand, for the first 2 weeks i'll fill up the res to it's full potential of about 20 gallons yes? Basically the bottom of the next pots will barely sit on the top of the water until the roots are long enough to sit in the water, then from there just not fill up the resevoir as much? I think that's what I got from everything, but I have just woken up so let me know if I missed something.

Hey Tool , I'm just starting my first grow journal , come drop by to take a look.

Question , why is there strains called Haze #5 ???

 

[toolage]

Hey Tool , I'm just starting my first grow journal , come drop by to take a look.

Question , why is there strains called Haze #5 ???

hey man, nice to have ya aboard. They call it haze #5 because its been breed 5 different times with haze I believe. They have northern lights, northernlights x3, x4, x5. The higher the number the more its been bread, which its more of a pure haze and usually more potency.

correct me if i'm wong though.

 

[BCMango]

hey man, nice to have ya aboard. They call it haze #5 because its been breed 5 different times with haze I believe. They have northern lights, northernlights x3, x4, x5. The higher the number the more its been bread, which its more of a pure haze and usually more potency.

correct me if i'm wong though.

so...

if I had a Mango (mom) plant and Haze (dad) and crossed them I would get Sweet Haze F1

and if I take the Sweet Haze #1 and took the male plant and crossed it with the Mango (mom) I would get Sweet Haze #2

 

[Alto]

I take my plants out for reservoir changes too T
I have a hole in the top of the grow deck and a drain
and even bought a long funnel (like for doing an oil change on you car)
to be able to add nutes back in without spilling all over.
I could go that route and leave everyone in, but I like to rinse out the reservoir and wash it out between changes so I blow a whistle and its
"every body out of the pool!"
next round I am attaching the grow deck to the scrog screen so I devised a way to drop the reservoir out from under the grow deck to remove it.
I will have to use the drain to empty it first (or make a mess)
but it should be pretty easy once I do some fine tuning.
I would like to figure out a way to recirculate my small reservoir in and out of a larger one.
Thats still in the thinking up a way to do it phase...lol

 

[toolage]

so...

if I had a Mango (mom) plant and Haze (dad) and crossed them I would get Sweet Haze F1

and if I take the Sweet Haze #1 and took the male plant and crossed it with the Mango (mom) I would get Sweet Haze #2

that's the basic jist of breeding, but you won't get all the traits on the first cross. It usually takes alot of cross breeding to get a pure strain to grow right with all good genetics.

I take my plants out for reservoir changes too T
I have a hole in the top of the grow deck and a drain
and even bought a long funnel (like for doing an oil change on you car)
to be able to add nutes back in without spilling all over.
I could go that route and leave everyone in, but I like to rinse out the reservoir and wash it out between changes so I blow a whistle and its
"every body out of the pool!"
next round I am attaching the grow deck to the scrog screen so I devised a way to drop the reservoir out from under the grow deck to remove it.
I will have to use the drain to empty it first (or make a mess)
but it should be pretty easy once I do some fine tuning.
I would like to figure out a way to recirculate my small reservoir in and out of a larger one.
Thats still in the thinking up a way to do it phase...lol

that's pretty dope. Where do you put your plants after you take them out of your res. Aren't your roots like a mile long? Is it safe to move them like that and such?

 

[kochab]

Hey Tool , I'm just starting my first grow journal , come drop by to take a look.

Question , why is there strains called Haze #5 ???

so...

if I had a Mango (mom) plant and Haze (dad) and crossed them I would get Sweet Haze F1

and if I take the Sweet Haze #1 and took the male plant and crossed it with the Mango (mom) I would get Sweet Haze #2

Ok yall got part of that right there. The offspring from a set of parents are the F1's. If you want F2s then you take your F1 and cross breed backwards to one of the original parents. There will be more variations of plants the farther you go until you stabilize the trait you want and out breed all the ones you dont want by back crossing

and they labeled strains with numbers because those are different phenos of that strain. The guy that found the northern lights strain had 12 plants and nummbered them all down the line
northern lights #1
northern lights #2
northern lights#3
and so on and so fourth. The reason they have each different numbers now is so that we can tell the pheno types apart from one another.
If I remember correctly northern lights #5 ended up being the most potent one.

make any sense?

 

[BCMango]

Ok yall got part of that right there. The offspring from a set of parents are the F1's. If you want F2s then you take your F1 and cross breed backwards to one of the original parents. There will be more variations of plants the farther you go until you stabilize the trait you want and out breed all the ones you dont want by back crossing

and they labeled strains with numbers because those are different phenos of that strain. The guy that found the northern lights strain had 12 plants and nummbered them all down the line
northern lights #1
northern lights #2
northern lights#3
and so on and so fourth. The reason they have each different numbers now is so that we can tell the pheno types apart from one another.
If I remember correctly northern lights #5 ended up being the most potent one.

make any sense?

I kinda get it but you lost me on the hole '' There will be more variations of plants the farther you go until you stabilize the trait you want and out breed all the ones you dont want by back crossing ''

 

[toolage]

makes perfect sense. Thanks for clearing that up bro! I think I'm only getting Northern Lights #1. I hope they haven't gotten caught by customs, still patiently waiting for them to come in.

 

[email468]

I kinda get it but you lost me on the hole '' There will be more variations of plants the farther you go until you stabilize the trait you want and out breed all the ones you dont want by back crossing ''

This is breeding terminology. In the effort to find plants with the perfect traits you have to grow many, many plants. The more plants you have - the more likelihood of pinpointing the desirable traits - but you also introduce more variable traits.

 

[BCMango]

what would I get if I crossed

NL and Haze = NL x Haze
NL x Haze F1 crossed with Haze would give me?

 

[SmokeThisSmokeThat]

What are you guys using to keep the temps and humidity down in your closet???

 

[email468]

What are you guys using to keep the temps and humidity down in your closet???

I use an AC to keep temps down which seems to stabilize my humidity as well.

 

[email468]

what would I get if I crossed

NL and Haze = NL x Haze
NL x Haze F1 crossed with Haze would give me?

A non-stabilized cross of NL x Haze F1 + Haze?