MMPR Grow op: Small Scale
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R.Raider
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Hmm interesting...Thx for the info man.
Maximum, I agree. They might not stick to an April 2014 cessation of MMAR if the MMPR is not promulgated. I am going to guess (mostly out of my ass) that they will allow one year whenever they release them, so in the full MMPR regs the delay will be specified as 12 months. It's simpler for them to do just revise dates, than to go contradict their stated intention to provide a 1 year transition period. If the regs come out tomorrow, maybe they'll give us only 360 days 
I just hope they come through on their promise of "spring"-ish. The window to build diminishes quickly when September rolls around in Alberta.
I just hope they come through on their promise of "spring"-ish. The window to build diminishes quickly when September rolls around in Alberta.
redi jedi
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oakley1984
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by the time the regulations are posted, all their licenses will be issued.
health canada has already had its closed door meeting with commercial production growers. Simple harsh reality... im betting if you werent in one of those closed door meetings, You do not have a chance whatsoever of getting a license. Just my personal opinion on whats happening/going to be happening.
gluck tho, the whole system they are designing, is specifically designed to keep people like Us out of this business.
maximum
Active Member
Im skeptical about the mmpr. But I think your cynical.
I don't agree with your conspiracy theories oakley1984.
We don't live in a country where the government unilaterally decides who will operate in a private industry, like an oligarchy would.
Either the government itself provides a service to the public, or private industry does. If it is private industry is to do it, then yes...there ARE ways that smaller players and individuals can be restricted.
For example: high licensing fees, high security bonds, difficult safety regulations, limited numbers of licenses issued per year or in total.
Think of taxi cab licenses, liquor licenses, food cart permits...gov't restricts the number of people and their required qualifications all the time.
What DON'T governments do, unless you are wearing a tin foil hat and willing to bend over backwards to theorize a secret conspiracy?
They don't engage in secret meetings, with special stakeholders and friends, and agree to give them an unfair advantage for no good reason.
If the government wants to give a contract or advantage out of patronage, or unfairly to a friend, they still have to justify it under some legal means: like the licensing or regulation examples above.
The litigation and scandals that they would face if they announced an open, free new enterprise and economic sector, and then came down like Stalin to unilaterally appoint only their special friends to be allowed in this new business... that is so far from likely, it is science fiction and paranoia to imagine it.
I'm not saying we will all be able to get a permit, they may restrict numbers of licenses or present other obstacles...but it will be in a process that at least gives adequate and legal process to justify it. In other words, if you don't qualify, it will be for a reason that is openly known and equal in its treatment of every applicant. It may even be first-come-first-served, which is very fair in that every applicant could possibly be first.
We don't live in a country where the government unilaterally decides who will operate in a private industry, like an oligarchy would.
Either the government itself provides a service to the public, or private industry does. If it is private industry is to do it, then yes...there ARE ways that smaller players and individuals can be restricted.
For example: high licensing fees, high security bonds, difficult safety regulations, limited numbers of licenses issued per year or in total.
Think of taxi cab licenses, liquor licenses, food cart permits...gov't restricts the number of people and their required qualifications all the time.
What DON'T governments do, unless you are wearing a tin foil hat and willing to bend over backwards to theorize a secret conspiracy?
They don't engage in secret meetings, with special stakeholders and friends, and agree to give them an unfair advantage for no good reason.
If the government wants to give a contract or advantage out of patronage, or unfairly to a friend, they still have to justify it under some legal means: like the licensing or regulation examples above.
The litigation and scandals that they would face if they announced an open, free new enterprise and economic sector, and then came down like Stalin to unilaterally appoint only their special friends to be allowed in this new business... that is so far from likely, it is science fiction and paranoia to imagine it.
I'm not saying we will all be able to get a permit, they may restrict numbers of licenses or present other obstacles...but it will be in a process that at least gives adequate and legal process to justify it. In other words, if you don't qualify, it will be for a reason that is openly known and equal in its treatment of every applicant. It may even be first-come-first-served, which is very fair in that every applicant could possibly be first.
TurboTurtle
Active Member
At the moment you may only apply for the research and development license. Health Canada and other involved agencies are behind on releasing the application for the Commercial Medical Marijuana production licenses. This of course will lead to one of two things either A shortage of medicine for patients if they keep to their current proposed time line or a delay in the implementation of the new system. There are numerous types of activities that you may perform or carry out under a R&D license. You must state all proposed activities when applying for the R&D license. The security criteria for storage and production facilities are different and both of course must be met and continually complied with. The security measures set forth for storage depend on where you(The storage facilities) are located, what substances will be stored and the value of the stored material. All the details above can be found by feeding through the MMAR website. If you are interested in more info I will be happy to post what I have found.
R.Raider
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Great first post TT, thx for the info.
R.Raider
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And yes any info you have would be greatly appreciated. Think that's what this thread is about.
redi jedi
Well-Known Member
Thank you for your email of June 1, 2013, regarding your interest in
becoming a licensed producer under the Marihuana for Medical Purposes
Regulations (MMPR).
On December 15, 2012, the proposed MMPR were pre-published in the
Canada Gazette, Part I. The full text of the proposed regulations is
available here:
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html
Under the proposed new regulations, licensed producers will need
to demonstrate compliance with certain requirements such as: product
quality, personnel, record-keeping, safety and security, disposal and
reporting. Please keep in mind that these are subject to change based on
comments received by Health Canada during the 75 day comment period. The
final version of the MMPR is expected to be published in the Canada
Gazette, Part II in summer 2013. The application forms will be made
available at the latest when the regulations are published.
In the meantime, you may want to consider the Notice to Interested
Parties, also published in the Canada Gazette, Part I, which describes the
mechanisms and the required information and documents for parties who are
considering becoming a Licensed Producer and are interested in engaging in
research and development activities. The full text of the Notice is
available at
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/notice-avis-eng.html#d111
becoming a licensed producer under the Marihuana for Medical Purposes
Regulations (MMPR).
On December 15, 2012, the proposed MMPR were pre-published in the
Canada Gazette, Part I. The full text of the proposed regulations is
available here:
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/reg4-eng.html
Under the proposed new regulations, licensed producers will need
to demonstrate compliance with certain requirements such as: product
quality, personnel, record-keeping, safety and security, disposal and
reporting. Please keep in mind that these are subject to change based on
comments received by Health Canada during the 75 day comment period. The
final version of the MMPR is expected to be published in the Canada
Gazette, Part II in summer 2013. The application forms will be made
available at the latest when the regulations are published.
In the meantime, you may want to consider the Notice to Interested
Parties, also published in the Canada Gazette, Part I, which describes the
mechanisms and the required information and documents for parties who are
considering becoming a Licensed Producer and are interested in engaging in
research and development activities. The full text of the Notice is
available at
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/notice-avis-eng.html#d111
maximum
Active Member
Great find man. So we know summer is when to expect it or it will be delayed past summer. I doubt anything before summer. I never even got a reply back when I emailed them. Goodjob man!!!
maximum
Active Member
I wonder have any of you guys attempted this part yet?
"Parties who are considering becoming an LP and are interested in engaging in certain research and development activities such as testing marihuana or testing growing conditions on-site may do so prior to the MMPR coming into force using existing mechanisms under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA) and the Narcotic Control Regulations (NCR)."
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/notice-avis-eng.html#d111
Does anyone even know of someone that has a license for testing growing conditions on site? I would love to know what thats all about. Rules and plant counts etc.....
"Parties who are considering becoming an LP and are interested in engaging in certain research and development activities such as testing marihuana or testing growing conditions on-site may do so prior to the MMPR coming into force using existing mechanisms under the Controlled Drugs and Substances Act (CDSA) and the Narcotic Control Regulations (NCR)."
http://canadagazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2012/2012-12-15/html/notice-avis-eng.html#d111
Does anyone even know of someone that has a license for testing growing conditions on site? I would love to know what thats all about. Rules and plant counts etc.....
redi jedi
Well-Known Member
Thx but I didn't have to find it...Thats the usual reply I get every time I ask for information.
maximum
Active Member
They gave me this. I guess its because I didnt email recently enough.
Thank you for taking the time to comment on the proposed Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations, however, the public consultation period is now closed. Health Canada will no longer be accepting comments.
The proposed changes will not be finalized until the proposed regulations come into force, which is expected to be in 2013. The new system of licensed producers is expected to be fully implemented by April 1, 2014.
For more information on the proposed regulations please see Health Canada’s website:
http://hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/future-avenir/index-eng.php
Nous vous remercions d’avoir pris le temps de nous soumettre vos commentaires pour le Règlement de la marihuana à des fins médicales proposé, par contre, la période de consultation publique est terminée. Santé Canada n’accepte plus les commentaires.
Les changements proposés seront finalisés lorsque le règlement proposé entrera en vigueur, prévu en 2013. Le nouveau système de producteurs autorisés est prévu pour implémentation complète d’ici le 1er avril 2014.
Pour de plus amples informations concernant le règlement proposé, vous pouvez visiter le site web de Santé Canada à :
http://hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/future-avenir/index-fra.php
Thank you for taking the time to comment on the proposed Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations, however, the public consultation period is now closed. Health Canada will no longer be accepting comments.
The proposed changes will not be finalized until the proposed regulations come into force, which is expected to be in 2013. The new system of licensed producers is expected to be fully implemented by April 1, 2014.
For more information on the proposed regulations please see Health Canada’s website:
http://hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/future-avenir/index-eng.php
Nous vous remercions d’avoir pris le temps de nous soumettre vos commentaires pour le Règlement de la marihuana à des fins médicales proposé, par contre, la période de consultation publique est terminée. Santé Canada n’accepte plus les commentaires.
Les changements proposés seront finalisés lorsque le règlement proposé entrera en vigueur, prévu en 2013. Le nouveau système de producteurs autorisés est prévu pour implémentation complète d’ici le 1er avril 2014.
Pour de plus amples informations concernant le règlement proposé, vous pouvez visiter le site web de Santé Canada à :
http://hc-sc.gc.ca/dhp-mps/marihuana/future-avenir/index-fra.php
MMPRmonkey
New Member
I am currently working with a team looking to modify a large commercial greenhouse (previously a hydroponic tomato farm) into a MMPR production facility. We made some calls to HC in regards to the delay in finalizing the regulation, and to our surprise, yesterday we heard an automated greeting saying "You have reached the line for Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations", one of the three options is for those interested in commercial applications. After a quick chat, they seem to still be tight lipped however said that "the regulations will be rolled out at the end of the month". Like you, we will be crossing our fingers, waiting eagerly...
redi jedi
Well-Known Member
Very interesting idea...would you care to share your plans for QA?